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Early Black Friday 72 Hours Sale: Synology select NAS 15% off

glico7122 160 November 9, 2012 at 02:48 PM in Computers (4) More Newegg Deals
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Early Black Friday Deal for Synology NAS

take 15% off by using promo code EMCJJNA234

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...SSYNAS1109

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#46
Quote from Robert95z View Post :
Any other advantages I should know? I dont plan on taking my server anywhere.. Im in the process of building a media server that will play as a desktop computer, that will stream to a HTPC and an xbox 360.
It really depends on your storage needs and if it exceeds what can safely be housed and backed up in a HTPC.

NAS = Network Attached Storage.

If you want the added features of a HTPC then by all means continue on the path you are on.

Back in June I spent about $1100 and built a water-cooled speed demon PC and dropped all of my current drives into it. I still easily have room for another five 3.5" drives but this machine is purely built for audio and video processing. This is why I NEED a NAS. I NEED to make backups of my backups. If I lose any concert footage I would be screwed.

YMMV
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#47
Quote from Robert95z View Post :
Any other advantages I should know? I dont plan on taking my server anywhere.. Im in the process of building a media server that will play as a desktop computer, that will stream to a HTPC and an xbox 360.
Most will likely say for backup but my main reason is power consumption.
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Quote from Omnifire View Post :
Most will likely say for backup but my main reason is power consumption.
And form factor. I just don't have the desire for another mid or full tower taking up space.
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#49
Thanks for the info guys. I dont have any data on my computer that is that important. Sure it would suck to lose all my pictures, movies and music, but it wouldnt be the end of the world.
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Quote from Robert95z View Post :
Any other advantages I should know? I dont plan on taking my server anywhere.. Im in the process of building a media server that will play as a desktop computer, that will stream to a HTPC and an xbox 360.
I also have a home-built WHS-2001 file server, I am also contemplating getting a dedicated NAS. A few advantages:

1. Portable - My file server is a massive tower, the portability of a NAS may come in handy when you need move it somewhere quick. e.g. if you go on extended vacation, you may bring the NAS to your neighbor's house for safe keeping.
2. Power consumption - A full ATX PC will consume more power than a dedicated NAS. Heck, even a microATX PC may use more power. An ATX PC probably costs $50 more to operate per year, vs a dedicated NAS.
3. Hot swappable drives - Your newer PC may support this, but you still need to shutdown the PC, open the casing, screw in a new drive and hook up the SATA cable to the motherboard. With NAS, you just slot the drive in. You could buy one of those hot-swap drives bay for your PC though.
4. Harddive LED indicator - This tells you which drive is bad, this is much more convenient than opening your PC and guess which drive is bad.
5. Software/User-Experience - This is what I hope is the most important reason to get a NAS. I am hoping with the Synology DSM, everything can be plug-and-play, set-and-forget. With a home-built NAS (WHS-2001, FreeNAS, etc), you probably still need to spend some time to set them up correctly.

Of course, all the above are not really the absolute-must reasons to get a NAS, as they may not be a big deal to everyone. If you just need a 2-drive solution and you already have a spare low-power consumption PC laying around, then maybe the DIY/FreeNAS solution makes more sense.
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#51
Quote from rodalpho View Post :
The 412+ is last year's model and basically identical to the 413, which sells for $500. The rest of the models that can use the coupon are extremely expensive; the 1512 instead of the 212, for example, or even rack-mounted systems for datacenters. Not great consumer-level deals.

What I really want is a deal on the DS-413.
Please if you're going to be making statements like that, at least be somewhat informed. The 412+ is "last year's" model if by that you mean that it was released in July vs the 413 which was released in October. There are significant differences between the two models as the 412+ has the Intel Atom D2700 dual core 2.13Ghz processor while the 413 has the Freescale PPC 1.067Ghz dual core processor. This is a big difference especially in terms of compatibility with the programs that Synology NASes can run especially 3rd party programs. If you just want to stick with basic NAS functions, then the two are comparable.

However, if you want to run cool programs like Plex, the 413 (and 213+) do not have any support for it right now and for the immediate future. Just read the responses from the Plex developers on their forums. They don't think the time investment to code a PPC-based version of Plex Media Server is worth it for them.
http://forums.plexapp.com/index.p..._p__296842
http://forums.plexapp.com/index.p..._p__301369

The 413 & 213+ don't have even a basic version of Plex Media Server to run. The lower ARM-based Synology NASes have Media Server but can't transcode video. The Intel-based 412+ and above can transcode 720p video as you can see in the spread sheet below.
https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...xSmc#gid=0

So if you want to save like $100 and really don't think that you'll be using some of the advanced 3rd party media features like Plex, then go for the 413. But in my opinion, once you start using your NAS for the first time, you'll see that all those other programs and features would be incredibly useful and cool to run. You'll wish that you had just spent the extra $100 to get the full feature set. Make sure that you've thought it all out with the feature sets because it's not as simple as saving an extra $100 in this case.
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#52
what is this???
anyone care to explain a bit perhaps?
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#53
Quote from elite001 View Post :
what is this???
anyone care to explain a bit perhaps?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feat...moERnUP8cQ
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#54
if there's a hardware failure (not hard drive), can we still access data easily?
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#55
I've never had a nas or server but was planning to use an old gaming rig to run as a server. Is there any benefit to me buying one of these synology units over just using a pc with server software on it? How much more power will a conservative pc server actually use over say the 4 drive synology?
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Quote from Robert95z View Post :
Any other advantages I should know? I dont plan on taking my server anywhere.. Im in the process of building a media server that will play as a desktop computer, that will stream to a HTPC and an xbox 360.
Power, disk management, the Synology GUI
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Quote from kablam0r View Post :
I ordered the 1512+ to replace my butt slow Drobo FS. Any owner forums you guys recommend?
http://forum.synology.com/enu/
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#58
Still waiting on the 213+.

I expect alot more media streaming software support announcements to come in the future.. as these units are still fairly new on the market. Until that happens, its not a huge deal to continue doing what I was doing.. and thats use file formats that are supported by Itunes, Airplay, etc..
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Quote from jefflam79 View Post :
I've never had a nas or server but was planning to use an old gaming rig to run as a server. Is there any benefit to me buying one of these synology units over just using a pc with server software on it? How much more power will a conservative pc server actually use over say the 4 drive synology?
Power Consumption is low regardless. It's not like an A/C unit. Just strip everything you don't need. All you need is Motherboard, the occasional monitor (most of the time you won't use this for FreeNAS), CPU, HSF, and one or two fans (One for hard drive - In take and one for exhaust).

If you really want to transform an old computer into a nas with FreeNas, it's better to go with that.

It's really dependent on your needs. If you're an average level consumer and want to back up a drive or so, stream movies/tv shows, then making your own Nas is better.

But if space is an issue, and you really really want to conserve money on power, and rather not set up your own NAS, then these pre-built NAS are better.

But if you are all of the above but budget is low, I would wait for Black Friday/Cyber Monday because Newegg usually has some NASes for sale. I purchased as NAS on Newegg last year on Cyber Monday for 120~ and it's great.
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Quote from Viewtiful View Post :
Power Consumption is low regardless. It's not like an A/C unit. Just strip everything you don't need. All you need is Motherboard, the occasional monitor (most of the time you won't use this for FreeNAS), CPU, HSF, and one or two fans (One for hard drive - In take and one for exhaust).

If you really want to transform an old computer into a nas with FreeNas, it's better to go with that.

It's really dependent on your needs. If you're an average level consumer and want to back up a drive or so, stream movies/tv shows, then making your own Nas is better.

But if space is an issue, and you really really want to conserve money on power, and rather not set up your own NAS, then these pre-built NAS are better.

But if you are all of the above but budget is low, I would wait for Black Friday/Cyber Monday because Newegg usually has some NASes for sale. I purchased as NAS on Newegg last year on Cyber Monday for 120~ and it's great.
I think Synology offers quite a bit more if you know what you want and you have advanced needs; for simple filesharing an old PC will work fine.

A Synology NAS (like the 1812+, mentioned as on sale in this post) at $1000-ish will give you some pretty significant VAAI features under VMWare ESXi 5.1 that would typically cost thousands more, and offer massive improvements (hourlong disk operations become seconds or minutes long, etc.) in performance that until now required a much more serious SAN to do. Their DS36xxXS lineup is even better, but that's about $3000.


Even the more basic Synology boxes have some very nice programs (packages) you can download, making iTunes sharing, Time Machine targeting/backup, SMB sharing, NFS sharing, and iSCSI sharing trivial. If none of that makes sense to you, you can still take great advantage of the simpler Synology boxes, because they offer a fantastic GUI, a very, very straightforward setup experience (slap the disks in the box, click OK a few times, and you're almost done!), and very good support from the vendor and from community forums.


If you just need to share a file or two, or perform a PC/Time Machine backup or two, then download Linux-on-a-disk or use an old copy of Windows XP you have sitting in a closet, put it on an old dinosaur computer, put the old computer in a (ventilated) closet, set it up with a few shares and remote desktop access via RDP or VNC, and you're off to the races.


Power usage is an issue for some, but for those in the USA, power is still cheap enough that it shouldn't be a deciding factor. For most, the difference between running that Synology box vs. a full, old computer might be $50/year or so. In Europe and Asia it can be a very different matter.
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