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Lenovo P580 Intel i5-3210 6GB 750GB 15.6" Laptop for $416.5 from lenovo outlet

sknsl 1,072 November 10, 2012 at 12:38 PM in Computers
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This one is brand new. Base on the product no. the following are the specs;
3rd generation Intel Core i5-3210M
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
6GB RAM
750GB HD
15.6" High-definition widescreen LED-backlit (1366 x 768)
DVD±RW/CD-RW
Intel® HD Graphics 4000
Built-in Webcam
2 USB 3.0; 2 USB 2.0
HDMI Output
Built-in 10/100/1000M Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector)
Wireless-B+G+N
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#2
sounds pretty good. can't find further specs anywhere. bluetooth? webcam resolution? The IdeaPad P series isn't even listed on Lenovo's website?!
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#3
Thanks, OP. I went ahead and got one. Maybe I could find a better deal if I hounded the outlet or waited til BF, but I doubt I could build one with the same specs for cheaper and I really doubt I'll see these much below $400 for a while. It was good enough for me.

Very good budget laptop and should game well if you install discrete graphics. From what I can tell, HD webcam resolution but no bluetooth: http://deputycio.com/8324/lenovo-...-k55a-bbl4
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I'm trying to see if there's any way to drop the price any further. FW Cashback is only 1.5% for Lenovo Outlet, and I'm gonna assume there's probably tax.

Update: Yeah, there's tax. My total comes out to $445.66 after tax. FW's 1.5% Cashback on Lenovo Outlet only gets back ~$6.69 of that, meaning the end cost would be ~$438.97. Definitely not bad for a *new* Ivy Bridge i5 laptop.

Build quality notwithstanding, this seems to be a solid budget all-round laptop (good processing power, nice HD capacity, decent keyboard, plentiful RAM).

I don't think I can pull the trigger at this price though. I've got a couple-year-old Core-Solo ULV (Ultra Low Voltage, basically a step above an Atom processor) laptop, which is my backup laptop that I'd like to upgrade to a Core i5 Ivy Bridge laptop. However, I'd like to shoot for some better specs (8GB RAM, better screen, 13", and better build quality). Only way I can justify a temporary upgrade would be a dirt-cheap pricepoint (south of $400).

I couldn't find any coupons that stacked on top of this, not even the 10% off sitewide coupon for signing up an email address (doesn't apply to the Lenovo Outlet site).
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done.
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#6
Lenovo blows, i tried to get in on the last sale they had 3 weeks ago. They canceled my order and sent me a 35% off coupon. The coupon was valid last week but as of now it is void. There is no expiration date in my email or anything. I am so pissed because this would put this at less then $275. And the call center is closed now
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Quote from Robrain View Post :
I'm trying to see if there's any way to drop the price any further. FW Cashback is only 1.5% for Lenovo Outlet, and I'm gonna assume there's probably tax.

Update: Yeah, there's tax. My total comes out to $445.66 after tax. FW's 1.5% Cashback on Lenovo Outlet only gets back ~$6.69 of that, meaning the end cost would be ~$438.97. Definitely not bad for a *new* Ivy Bridge i5 laptop.

Build quality notwithstanding, this seems to be a solid budget all-round laptop (good processing power, nice HD capacity, decent keyboard, plentiful RAM).

I don't think I can pull the trigger at this price though. I've got a couple-year-old Core-Solo ULV (Ultra Low Voltage, basically a step above an Atom processor) laptop, which is my backup laptop that I'd like to upgrade to a Core i5 Ivy Bridge laptop. However, I'd like to shoot for some better specs (8GB RAM, better screen, 13", and better build quality). Only way I can justify a temporary upgrade would be a dirt-cheap pricepoint (south of $400).

I couldn't find any coupons that stacked on top of this, not even the 10% off sitewide coupon for signing up an email address (doesn't apply to the Lenovo Outlet site).
What's wrong with the build quality?

I agree I'm not thrilled about the screen--low pixel density and lots of glossy light reflection. But the screen only gets to me if I'm doing spreadsheets or gaming for several hours, which is when I'm at home and can just hook it to a TV or LCD. For brief work periods and watching movies on the road I think this will be fine, esp since I rip my movies to a lower bitrate and wouldn't view the rips in HD resolution, anyway.

RAM looks easy to upgrade, though, and I doubt I'll really have to touch it at 6gb. I thought the build was nice: this is thinner and lighter than a standard laptop, has a sturdy keyboard, has aluminum casing, is in new condition...

Planning to swap an SSD in this but the 750gb hdd will make a nice portable when I pop it in an enclosure.

Tax almost killed it for me, too. If the purchase was going to be over $500 I would've waited for a similar deal from Newegg or a store where cashback almost cancels the tax.

Generally my experience with laptops is to invest in the processor. I somehow end up breaking or finding cheap upgrades for the other components over the years. I think an i5 Ivy Bridge should hold up well for a few years and save money in the long run. I haven't seen similar deals that include it.
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Quote from Nobodaddy View Post :
What's wrong with the build quality?
I think an i5 Ivy Bridge should hold up well for a few years and save money in the long run. I haven't seen similar deals that include it.
All indications are that these laptops are unsold inventory from Best Buy brick-and-mortar stores. MANY laptops sold in Best Buy are specially commissioned models - Best Buy contracts with the manufacturers to craft slightly modified, lower-cost models of existing laptops, using cheaper plastics and alloy materials.

This typically causes problems in the long run - hinges crack, as do other plastic pieces on the laptop (due to the cheaper plastic used). Additionally, paint can wear noticeably (palmrest/lid, for example).

Best Buy, being a brick-and-mortar retailer, has to do this in order to be able to compete with online pricing - it's one of the only ways they can match online pricing (the laptops generally look the same / similar, but technically cost less to manufacture due to the cheaper components/materials).

That's why I stated there would very likely be build quality issues down the road unless you babied it (and even then, that might not make enough of a difference to overcome the lower quality materials).

Anyway, that's why I stated that even if I had purchased this, it would only be intended as a temporary upgrade. Meaning, the warranty on this I believe is 1-year. I would have made certain that I sold this laptop before that warranty period finished. I don't want to be the guy caught with a multi-hundred dollar device made of low quality parts that's out of warranty.

That's all.
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Quote from Robrain View Post :
All indications are that these laptops are unsold inventory from Best Buy brick-and-mortar stores.
what indications are we talking about?
very interesting info otherwise, - thanks and repped!
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Quote from w777w View Post :
what indications are we talking about?
very interesting info otherwise, - thanks and repped!
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/5...ng&dir=asc

The more you know...

http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...841/page/2

"So I chatted with a customer representative on the computer and they tried to give me the run around on the differences between the z580 and p580. I then called and got a very intelligent answer that might help those of you out there trying to make a decision between these two. The p580 is a "resale" model. This does not mean refurbished. It is completely new, just like any computer that you would buy on the Lenovo website; however, it is only sold by 3rd party companies or in other words, resold. There are two reasons for this. First, sometimes a company like Best Buy wants to customize a particular model. It will then customize it and the model is given a slightly different name. Usually these customizations are not big - software, RAM, bluetooth, ports, etc. Second, as you guys are all probably aware, most major companies offer price matching now. While the p580 and z580 are identical brothers, they are not "technically" the same computer, so Best Buy does not have to honor any price matches. The same thing is done with televisions in the industry - most major retailers can't compete with the ridiculously low price that walmart sometimes offers, so instead, they add an hdmi port, rename the model, and don't offer the price match. Ultimately, the z580 and p580 are basically the same computer (except one does have bluetooth). This all being said, I have heard that both are incredibly reliable and good. Hope this information helps!"

I first became aware of this practice myself when I was astounded a few years ago at the fact that Best Buy constantly had nicely spec'd SONY laptops at great prices (BLU-RAY in the ~$600 range...). I looked up the model number when I returned home and found a forum post (probably in the forums on NotebookReviews.com - many knowledgeable people aggregate there) that described the reason why those Sony laptop model numbers appeared nowhere else except Best Buy.

This information became reality for me a few months later when I happened to have someone I follow on Twitter complain about their Sony laptop that they'd bought the previous year from Best Buy. They were stating they wanted a new laptop because their old one was in terrible shape. I asked for pics, out of curiosity, and they provided me with a few. There was massive wear to the paint on both the lid and palmrest, bad enough to the point that it looked like they'd taken a mini flamethrower to it. Except it was obviously just wear, since it was right in the exact location (on each side) that your hands/wrists would be resting on the palmrest.

It looked like this, except worse because the paint was a completely different color from the material underneath, making it look really bad:

http://www.finishing.com/461/46101.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/2wghwyb.jpg

http://media.photobucket.com/imag...3-0853.jpg

http://forum.notebookreview.com/a...403001.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/081008/DSC00653.jpg
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#11
this is really good deal
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#12
I do concur that lenovo does from time and time build laptops with specific specs for individual store. I was trying to get them to price match a similar machine from amazon but they wouldn't since they claim the laptop from amazon was a special built! As far as I could tell, everything is exactly identical except one has a blu-ray and the other has only dvd.
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#13
what kind of games will i be able to run with this laptop?

i usually play diablo 3, dota 2, counter strike go
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#14
pulled the trigger. that is a bf doorbuster price for sure. it's one of the best values. it's an i5 processor for 416.

the cheapest i5 processor laptop you will find on black friday will be at Sam's HP doorbuster for $399. But they probably wont have a lot of them available.

great find op!
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#15
looks like it's sold out
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