Refurb Logitech Driving Force™ GT RB-941-000020X PS3/PS2 Gaming Wheel - Force Feedback, 900-degree Wheel Rotation, 11" Ruber-Overmold Rim, Pedals, Sequential Stick Shift $60

Not a gamer here, so go easy. Will this work for playing Dirt 3 on a Windows 7 PC? Reps for good info.

Quote from LiquidRetro : I guess it's too much to ask for a wheel that works with PC, PS3 and Xbox360

Truth....

the DFGT is probably the best quality of the budget wheels that are out there. it has excellent force feedback, 900deg of rotation and probably the best on-wheel button configuration of any wheel at any price. it competes in price with the Thrustmaster RGT wheel at the ~$115US price point. the Thrustmaster has a clutch but like the DFGT only a sequential shifter and only has 270 degrees of rotation.

upgrading to a G27 (~$225) you get:
leather wrapped steering wheel, 6sp gated shifter, clutch pedal. also the overall build quality is better, most sim racers agree that the pedal set as a whole is of a higher quality and produces much better feel while braking (the most important aspect of sim racing is braking correctly). also the internals are upgraded slightly, the gearing system is still plastic but the G27 uses helical gears as opposed to the straight cut gears on the DFGT. this gains the wheel a smoother overall feel while also reducing noise. in my opinion there is no direct competitor to the G27 at its price point.

a few people asked about XBOX compatibility. Logitech does not support that. Microsoft, MadCatz and Thrustmaster 458 all have mid-level wheels but are considered fairly cheap.

The next tier of wheels is owned by Fanatec. Fanatec chooses to sell their components (wheel, pedal, shifters) separately but also does bundle a few packages for reduced prices.

The cheapest option for XBOX compatibly would be the CSR pack at $250 but that does not come with shifters. Add 60 for the shifters (both sequential and gated) and you have $310 but that does not include shipping. Fanatec does have a US shipping warehouse in California so it would not be overseas freight but you would need to check for yourself on the cost.

So what kind of upgrade is the CSR from the G27? First off all the Fanatec wheels currently being sold are belt driven as opposed to the plastic gears found in the Logitecs. This brings a whole new level of smoothness and quietness to the driving experience. Most reviewers concur that once you go to a belt driven wheel you will never go back to gear driven and the Logitechs feel like "toys".

Currently Fanatec offers 5 wheels varying in price from $180 (GT3RSv2 - wheel only - no XBOX compatiblity) to their newest wheel the Clubsport at $630 (this thing is a piece of work though). They also offer 3 different pedal sets:
CSR($70) - standard pedals, most closely resembling G27 pedals
CSR Elite($150) - fully adjustable, all metal construction - load cell on brake
CSP($250) - all metal construction - load cell brake, upgraded sensors on clutch and gas

Also available from Thrustmaster in this mid-market segment is the T500. It comes with a wheel and pedals but no shifter (extra $130). Its priced in the $550 range so it competes mostly with the higher end Fanatec packages. Most people are generally pleased with the feel of this wheel, less so with the pedals (considering the price they want a load cell) but do not like the fact the paddle shifters are stationary. It also does not have XBOX compatibility.

That's about it for the mid-level wheels. After that you start going into the high-end wheels FREX, ECCI, TSW, which are over $1000 (and none of those work with XBOX).

Got one for my son for Christmas. Thanks OP. Going to rig up the plywood on the chair, too. Great Idea.

I had this wheel but recently upgraded to a g27.
both great wheels!

use a cheap laptop stand from staples/office depot. remove the top (or rather dont install the mdf top) and you get a perfect wheel stand that is height adjustable.
can post pics of mine if anyone interested.

I use mine with a htpc to play dirt 2,F1 etc.

Dont forget 4% CB w/ FW

Quote from asmd : use a cheap laptop stand from staples/office depot. remove the top (or rather dont install the mdf top) and you get a perfect wheel stand that is height adjustable. can post pics of mine if anyone interested.

Yes.

Quote from xxxHolic : Need deal for Xbox and PC here?

Works on PC just fine. I would have hoped it was compatible with Xbox 360 too but sadly it isnt for whatever reason.

Quote from asmd : I had this wheel but recently upgraded to a g27. both great wheels! use a cheap laptop stand from staples/office depot. remove the top (or rather dont install the mdf top) and you get a perfect wheel stand that is height adjustable. can post pics of mine if anyone interested. I use mine with a htpc to play dirt 2,F1 etc.

Pics would be very helpful. Please post them.

TIA!

Quote from asmd : I had this wheel but recently upgraded to a g27. both great wheels! use a cheap laptop stand from staples/office depot. remove the top (or rather dont install the mdf top) and you get a perfect wheel stand that is height adjustable. can post pics of mine if anyone interested. I use mine with a htpc to play dirt 2,F1 etc.

I tried that with Walmart's laptop stand [walmart.com], and it really isn't stable enough to do much driving with. I'm going to give it to my Mother for Christmas rather than try to take it back to Walmart now that I have it assembled.

Quote from LiquidRetro : I guess it's too much to ask for a wheel that works with PC, PS3 and Xbox360

it works on xbox, pc and ps2/ps3. its released under pc line on 2007. later it announced the support for xbox and ps. the logitech gamepad software has built-in support for it.

Quote from mrstangblb : I tried that with Walmart's laptop stand [walmart.com], and it really isn't stable enough to do much driving with. I'm going to give it to my Mother for Christmas rather than try to take it back to Walmart now that I have it assembled.

Just don't tell her why you got it.

Quote from sueshake : what does "quality refurbished" mean? different from manufacture refurb?

Called them. They said quality refurbished has to be tested twice before packaging. Not sure if it makes any difference.

Got 1....my grandma wants to learn how to drive a real car and this is the perfect tool for training.