Apple MacBook Pro Retina 2.6 GHz Processor / 512 GB Storage Amazon $2409.54

Hey guys i have own a few mac book retinas they have screen problems mainly LG screen Burn in issues so think wisely overall its a great product. Apple is trying to keep this in the down low because they have been reseting the post on there forum and reply. When i bring it in store they have a burn in test that is grey and the burn in wont show but once you use black it will show and they will try to tell you its normal.

https://discussions.apple.com/thr...5&tstart=0
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/08/14/ar...en-issues/

Quote from JOHNBON2010 : I can buy 5 computers with this .

while you might be able to buy multiple machines for this amount of money, for this machine this is a great deal. If you are looking for a top of the line machine with an awesome screen then this is the best deal on this so far. If you are looking for a machine to facebook and email on and thats all you want to do with it then this would be overkill obviously

Quote from warsaws : I'd first like others to chime in on wether or not >85 constitutes "overheating". Your words were "overheat". Edit: actually you said extremely overheat. Is 85 degrees truly overheating?

For a laptop, yes

Quote from warsaws : I'd first like others to chime in on wether or not >85 constitutes "overheating". Your words were "overheat". Edit: actually you said extremely overheat. Is 85 degrees truly overheating? Room temp is 76 !! Please don't waste my time. You offered a bet on a public forum and I'm taking you up on it in good faith.

I am talking about Celsius degrees, so feel free to do the test

Quote from Chrisfover87 : For a laptop, yes

Ok, if several from SD agree with slightly above room temp meaning "extremely overheat" for a laptop then I agree to your terms.

Quote from warsaws : Ok, if several from SD agree with slightly above room temp meaning "extremely overheat" for a laptop then I agree to your terms.

I was talking about Celsius...I do have common sense

Quote from Chrisfover87 : I was talking about Celsius...I do have common sense

don't get snippy with me.

Say what you mean and move on. I double checked with you and you just responded "Yes, for a laptop". Now you're saying celcius.

So, what does SD say? 85 degrees celcius means, "extremely overheating" or not?

Quote from Chrisfover87 : try FurMark for the GPU stress test

prime 95 already uses the gpu

Quote from richarddeals87 : Yes, but five pieces of junk.

Yup agreed. I much rather buy one device and less trash the world with 5 POS devices I will probably never use.

This or a used car. Decisions...

Quote from Chrisfover87 : Run FurMark at max setting (1920x1080) on your Macbook pro using NVIDIA 650M for 30 mins with no external cooling system. If the max temp of GPU can stay below 85 (Celsius), you win, is it fair? I do need some money for my college, thanks

Overheating implies that a machines temperature exceeds its cooling system and has to throttle back its clock speeds and/or crashes. You can't just go making up arbitrary temperatures that you consider to be "too hot" if the system is completely stable running at those temperatures.

That said, I've gamed at 2880x1800 on mine and it didn't get to the point where it hurt (which I have experienced on a few other laptops). It was a bit uncomfortable and probably not the best for my crotch but it did not "overheat."

Quote from agentkhiem : This or a used car. Decisions...

Trollololo. Your signature already gives away your bias.

LOL. This is not 1995. Who pays this much for a notebook?

Sheesh. Am I the only one who knows how to use Google in this flame festival?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/602...-review/12

Prime95 and Furmark are synthetic stability tests which generate more heat and power than possible anywhere else, so neither are important; this is a laptop and we're not overclocking here. As seen in the link above, the Retina MBP with i7 and GT650M peaks at 63°C CPU and 72°C GPU while running the HL2 in-game torture test -- these are the temps people will *actually see*.

The CPU doesn't get fully stressed with this test so we can expect about mid 70's for both @ max load, as both CPU and GPU share the same two heatpipes.

I'm not a fan of Apple's comically high prices, but their engineering is a different story. Case closed...

Quote from vv-tim : Overheating implies that a machines temperature exceeds its cooling system and has to throttle back its clock speeds and/or crashes. You can't just go making up arbitrary temperatures that you consider to be "too hot" if the system is completely stable running at those temperatures. That said, I've gamed at 2880x1800 on mine and it didn't get to the point where it hurt (which I have experienced on a few other laptops). It was a bit uncomfortable and probably not the best for my crotch but it did not "overheat." Trollololo. Your signature already gives away your bias.

Bias against fanboyism, yes .

Quote from vv-tim : Overheating implies that a machines temperature exceeds its cooling system and has to throttle back its clock speeds and/or crashes. You can't just go making up arbitrary temperatures that you consider to be "too hot" if the system is completely stable running at those temperatures.

+1

85 celsius is not consider high at all for a GPU. Even desktop cards hit that temp easily in furmark. I would argue most enthusiast laptops with a 650m or above can hit 85c in furmark depending on ambient temps.

Which brings me to my next point. Several review sites don't even use furmark as a benchmark for heat anymore because it unrealistically stresses the GPU to limits it would never reach in any normal use.

I'm not arguing one way or another against the Macbook Pro, but setting convenient parameters for "overheating" that is clearly biased doesn't help to strengthen the case against it.