Apple MacBook Pro Retina 2.6 GHz Processor / 512 GB Storage Amazon $2409.54

Quote from M5Rahul : This is true if all you do is Facebook [ which lags on the rMBP anyway ], casual email and web browsing. Just like some people buy LSx cars, but never really use it's potential The merits of this laptop outweigh the flaws, price being one! As a DBA, I find this machine perfect for my tasks which includes running multiple VMs in a server environment simultaneously. Dedicated Windows workstations have a tendency to hang/freeze or bog down, especially when running something like Siebel Server supporting more than 10K clients. I also have a start-up, and since buying this Mac, I've been able to manage my work more productively working remote, and thus further seeding my small business! This convenience and increased productivity makes this rather expensive laptop worth it for me and has already paid for itself in less than a month!!

As a windows systems engineer, I'm going to call your bluff.

I can run just as many VM's, while running multiple vmware consoles, and multiple connections to vsphere just fine on a core i5 $499.99 Dell.

I'm sure I could even buy a Windows PC with the same specs as this macbook, for half or less of the price. Please tell me how a retina display is helping you run your databases?

It's pretty obvious your just a MAC fanboy, why try to hide in the closet?

I'm also not saying I hate MAC, or that MAC is not good for something, or that even MAC's don't work, it will surely get whatever your doing on it done, all I'm saying is that Apple products are overpriced for the same performance you can get elsewhere, no hate if you want to waste your money on them, that's your right

Quote from Chrisfover87 : bet 10 bucks that this thing will get extremely overheated.

I used to play BF3 on high w/o being plugged in. It only gets somewhat hot when you're doing that.

Playing CS, or any other modern game doesn't even get it that hot.

You just described why my Mom loves me so much. That was my point earlier about no virus headaches. I am trying to talk her into an ipad to replace her
PC.

Quote from kharvel : Let me guess: 1) You are a tech geek or someone very familiar and comfortable with computers and DLL files. 2) You provide FREE and UNPAID HOURS of tech support to family and friends. 3) You have family and friends who can't tell the difference between a DLL file and a MS word file and the only reason they're using defective Microsoft products is because you provide FREE and UNPAID HOURS of tech support to them. Why don't you share with us the number of hours of free and unpaid tech support you have provided to your family and friends?

Quote from EvilCamaroSS : As a windows systems engineer, I'm going to call your bluff. I can run just as many VM's, while running multiple vmware consoles, and multiple connections to vsphere just fine on a core i5 $499.99 Dell. I'm sure I could even buy a Windows PC with the same specs as this macbook, for half or less of the price. Please tell me how a retina display is helping you run your databases? It's pretty obvious your just a MAC fanboy, why try to hide in the closet? I'm also not saying I hate MAC, or that MAC is not good for something, or that even MAC's don't work, it will surely get whatever your doing on it done, all I'm saying is that Apple products are overpriced for the same performance you can get elsewhere, no hate if you want to waste your money on them, that's your right

lol.. you're evidently new to IT or work at a very basic System's level ! I'm not getting in to a technical debate with someone on the internet who can't grasp the scope and responsibilities of a DBA in a large software corporation[ cannot reveal name due to NDA ]

But..alas, you've figured me out with that ' Fanboy ' statement I'm enlightened!

Quote from M5Rahul : lol.. you're evidently new to IT or work at a very basic System's level ! I'm not getting in to a technical debate with someone on the internet who can't grasp the scope and responsibilities of a DBA in a large software corporation[ cannot reveal name due to NDA ] But..alas, you've figured me out with that ' Fanboy ' statement I'm enlightened!

lol yea right rookie. I work for one of the largest data centers in the northeast. We hold some of the equipment for the top financial and hedge funds in the world.

Your ignorance amuses me.

Quote from EvilCamaroSS : lol yea right rookie. I work for one of the largest data centers in the northeast. We hold some of the equipment for the top financial and hedge funds in the world. Your ignorance amuses me.

The feeling is mutual kid.

Data Center ..... Have fun at the front end!

Quote from M5Rahul : The feeling is mutual kid. Data Center ..... Have fun at the front end!

Yea, Data Center, like Managed Services, as in we manage the servers for the customer.

lol You just keep these classic statements coming, I really hope there are some other engineers reading this.

Quote from EvilCamaroSS : lol yea right rookie. I work for one of the largest data centers in the northeast. We hold some of the equipment for the top financial and hedge funds in the world. Your ignorance amuses me.

I think it should be pointed out that this is a luxury item and consumer product.


If we're talking about saving money on systems, most companies are using server grade xeon processors running headless linux servers for the type of operations you're talking about. No one runs their data centers on macbook pros.... especially ones with retina displays.


You also need to consider that it's more than just hardware price. There is a cost associated with the software and operating system. As a developer, simply having a *nix based system makes interacting with other *nix systems a whole lot easier. Also, Parallels on the mac is much more seamless for virtualization.

Quote from Omnifire : I think it should be pointed out that this is a luxury item and consumer product. If we're talking about saving money on systems, most companies are using server grade xeon processors running headless linux servers for the type of operations you're talking about. No one runs their data centers on macbook pros.... especially ones with retina displays. You also need to consider that it's more than just hardware price. There is a cost associated with the software and operating system. As a developer, simply having a *nix based system makes interacting with other *nix systems a whole lot easier. Also, Parallels on the mac is much more seamless for virtualization.

Agreed, it is a consumer product. Which is why I found it funny it was being used for work by a DBA.

Actually saving money these days is all about buying two really powerful servers with some FC HBA's carving out a LUN, running the systems on esxi in a DRS cluster and spinning up tons of vms.

That being said it really doesn't matter what OS your workstation is running. The small gains you might have talking from similar OSX based workstation are grossly overset by price IMHO.

Thanks for the intelligent conversation on this. It was much needed.

DIck swinging title match: Dude flaunting his m5 vs dude flaunting his camaro ss. Both assuredly a pleasure to sit around have a beer with and listen to them talk about themselves.

Winner: the readers,


Regarding the machine. I just bought one (base model 15) yesterday (relatives academic discount, 5% citi card rotating cb category), net price $1900 ish for the base model with the obligatory extra year cc warranty and return period through the holidays. Bhphoto also has for a decent price with free parallels and discounted applecare btw.

Its a goddamn fantastic machine, and for the $2k range it better be.

Could I have bought any number of laptops for a fraction of the price that would provide equivalent functionality; Absolutely. Overkill for handing a cloud linked incomes spreadsheet, yearly taxes and a neat receipts library; You're goddamn right, but this is 'merica. After factoring in its deprecation against taxes and potential resale value down the road will it be as "expensive" vs the enjoyment derived form its use over its ownership? Probably not. WIll the expense affect my quality of life in a negative manner; nope.



The price the op had is a solid price if you want/need/can afford the item. For everyone, absolutely not. But neither is an m5 or a camaro ss. Both beautiful cars, but really, if thats what you want everyone to know about you than maybe some self esteem classes would be in order. The only important thing learned from this thread after the op is that most people here are just glad not to be sitting at either of your thanksgiving tables.

lolForesterDucatiTdiJeff

Quote from utekineir : DIck swinging title match: Dude flaunting his m5 vs dude flaunting his camaro ss. Both assuredly a pleasure to sit around have a beer with and listen to them talk about themselves. Winner: the readers, Regarding the machine. I just bought one (base model 15) yesterday (relatives academic discount, 5% citi card rotating cb category), net price $1900 ish for the base model with the obligatory extra year cc warranty and return period through the holidays. Bhphoto also has for a decent price with free parallels and discounted applecare btw. Its a goddamn fantastic machine, and for the $2k range it better be. Could I have bought any number of laptops for a fraction of the price that would provide equivalent functionality; Absolutely. Overkill for handing a cloud linked incomes spreadsheet, yearly taxes and a neat receipts library; You're goddamn right, but this is 'merica. After factoring in its deprecation against taxes and potential resale value down the road will it be as "expensive" vs the enjoyment derived form its use over its ownership? Probably not. WIll the expense affect my quality of life in a negative manner; nope. The price the op had is a solid price if you want/need/can afford the item. For everyone, absolutely not. But neither is an m5 or a camaro ss. Both beautiful cars, but really, if thats what you want everyone to know about you than maybe some self esteem classes would be in order. The only important thing learned from this thread after the op is that most people here are just glad not to be sitting at either of your thanksgiving tables. lolForesterDucatiTdiJeff

Your off-base with your car comments, as I don't even own a Camaro any more, but I have to say the rest of it is great, welcome to SD and great 1st post!

Thanks,

what generation was it?

it was the newest generation and for this machine $2400 was an awesome price. I have been playing with mine since Tuesday and love it. I could have preferenced the post with I am a photographer and also do video editing so for me a high end machine is the only way to go, and the retina display makes it a no brainer for me. Slickdeal for everyone no, but it was a slickdeal for anyone looking at this machine.

i was asking about the camaro this thread stopped being useful for relevant info after the op


loving my "low end" retina 15 too, your posted deal would have absolutely been what i went with if i had any inclination of ever actually needing the 512 ssd