MSI 560 GTX TI 448 Cores $119 + Shipping AR

Quote from hemoglobin : what are you smoking, the 560 448 is on par with a 6950, which totally destroy the 6870

Correct - The 560 TI 448 1.2 GB performs on par with the 6950 1 GB. The 6950 2 GB performs better in some scenarios at higher resolutions.

Incorrect - The 6950 2 GB does not "totally destroy" the 6870 1 GB, but it is indeed a faster card, sitting 1 tier higher on the THGCH chart.

This would be an amazing deal, but $100 is just too much of a rebate IMO.

Quote from swunder : Would get this to SLI with my current, but 1.25GB is just not enough memory to warrant SLI. At 19x12 current and upcoming games (farcry 3, crysis 3) that can use the power will definitely want more memory

true that...1.5gb is probably the minimum most should go these days when it comes to VRAM...although you can get away with 1.25gb as long as you turn down certain settings....but yeah, might want to hold off on SLI....holiday sales might have a sweet deal on a 660Ti with 2gb of VRAM....which would be awesome at 1920x1200

is this a worthy upgrade from a radeon hd 4680 ?

Quote from kendogg : is this a worthy upgrade from a radeon hd 4680 ?

I would say a huge upgrade

Quote from TH0R : Correct - The 560 TI 448 1.2 GB performs on par with the 6950 1 GB. The 6950 2 GB performs better in some scenarios at higher resolutions. Incorrect - The 6950 2 GB does not "totally destroy" the 6870 1 GB, but it is indeed a faster card, sitting 1 tier higher on the THGCH chart. This would be an amazing deal, but $100 is just too much of a rebate IMO.

ok, may be 6950 may not totally destroy 6870, but to say that 560 448 is close to 6870 is ridiculous


4myreabate is very reliable, get my card within 3 weeks, no worry

Quote from roll_right : Trying to decide whether I want to upgrade from a 460...I'm not sure if my first gen i3 will bottleneck it.

I got a GTX 460 for like $70 recently, new. You may want to do the same and use SLI.
It would be your best bet for upgrading, if your motherboard supports SLI and your power supply has enough juice.

For those asking "is my card better/worse", check this out

http://www.tomshardware.com/revie...107-7.html

Quote from hemoglobin : ok, may be 6950 may not totally destroy 6870, but to say that 560 448 is close to 6870 is ridiculous

Incorrect. They are indeed close, since they are only 1 tier apart. A significant upgrade is 3 tiers difference.
At 2 tiers difference, it would probably be ridiculous to say that 2 cards are close.

Quote from littlehamsterz : What wattage is the PSU you guys are using? I'm reading the reviews and it looks like this card is a serious power hog with people having issues with the gpu when they're using 650 watts or so. One reviewer says you need at least 800 watts to prevent problems.

Yeah, I had issues with mine at 650w. Swapped out an for older but higher quality 750w and it worked just fine.

Edit: For what it's worth (and to combat the other comments in this thread dubious of the power needs of this card), that was driving an Phenom II 955, 8GB RAM, two 7200rpm HDDs, one SSD, and a few fans. I was doubtful that it was the video card too, so I tried upgrading to a more power conservative Ivy Bridge CPU and taking out an HDD, but it ended up being the GPU. I was probably just dealing with a kinda crappy PSU, but I would give this card plenty of overhead to be safe.

So I got a 4850 right now.... will this card blow my 4850 like no tomorrow, through the roof, under the sea, over and sideways into a whole new world?

Quote from QuickStriker : So I got a 4850 right now.... will this card blow my 4850 like no tomorrow, through the roof, under the sea, over and sideways into a whole new world?

and then some...

4 tiers difference between those 2 cards - HUGE!
This card would not "blow" the 4850, as technology is not yet advanced enough for that type of scenario to exist for most people.
However, it would blow it away without even lifting a finger.

The price is kinda hard to pass.......would be a good upgrade from my ATI HD 2600 XT
Damn!!!!.....I have really shitty old card!!!!!!

Quote from hemoglobin : ok, may be 6950 may not totally destroy 6870, but to say that 560 448 is close to 6870 is ridiculous 4myreabate is very reliable, get my card within 3 weeks, no worry

I said the 6870 is close to the 560 ti 448.

For $10 or $20, sure I'd consider upgrading. But I take into consideration the time and effort needed, it isn't usually a straight $20 trade off.

To each their own, though. I doubt you'll find many games where the 560ti 448 will give you an extremely noticeable better experience than the 6870.

For what it's worth, I own both these cards and currently use both in 2 different systems. So I'm not just going from benchmarks and reviews.

I'd highly recommend people stay away from this card and MSI in general. I bought this video card 6 months ago, it was dead in 2 months. First RMA'd card worked for 2 weeks before the same thing happened again,. and the third card only lasted 5 days before it crapped out as well. I'm pretty much SOL now and I'm done going back and forth with MSI regarding it, but I hope others will really think long and hard before pulling the trigger on this card.