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Build Your Own AMD/Intel Computer Thread III

athlonfx 306 July 6, 2007 at 04:16 PM in Computers (10)
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#4351
Hey everyone:

Trying to help a friend put together a gaming computer, with the specs below! I haven't built my own rig for 2+ years now, so I'm complete in the dark about what's the best bang for his buck right now. Any help would be appreciated!

1. Purpose of computer: Playing Lord of the Rings Online

2. Budget: Approx $750, but I can go over if it makes a big difference in performance

3. List which parts you have:
a. CPU: Need
b. Mobo: Need
c. video card: Need
d. Hard drive: Need
e. Ram: Need
f. power supply: Need
g. Case: Need
h: Optical drive (DVD/BluRay, etc): Need
i: Keyboard, mouse, monitor - I have these
j: Operating system: Need


4. Will you be overclocking?
No

If there's a good deal on a prebuilt right now that would be better or comparable to building my own for the game I'm looking to optimize, I'm open to that - but otherwise I need a bunch of help putting this system together from scratch based on recommendations and my own naivette on the subject of picking out the right parts Smilie

Thank you in advance for help!

- Ben
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#4352
Quote from Ben Bleiweiss View Post :
Hey everyone:

Trying to help a friend put together a gaming computer, with the specs below! I haven't built my own rig for 2+ years now, so I'm complete in the dark about what's the best bang for his buck right now. Any help would be appreciated!

1. Purpose of computer: Playing Lord of the Rings Online

2. Budget: Approx $750, but I can go over if it makes a big difference in performance

3. List which parts you have:
a. CPU: Need
b. Mobo: Need
c. video card: Need
d. Hard drive: Need
e. Ram: Need
f. power supply: Need
g. Case: Need
h: Optical drive (DVD/BluRay, etc): Need
i: Keyboard, mouse, monitor - I have these
j: Operating system: Need


4. Will you be overclocking?
No

If there's a good deal on a prebuilt right now that would be better or comparable to building my own for the game I'm looking to optimize, I'm open to that - but otherwise I need a bunch of help putting this system together from scratch based on recommendations and my own naivette on the subject of picking out the right parts Smilie

Thank you in advance for help!

- Ben
I can help you out with the operating system. Which OS do you need?
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#4353
Quote from Ben Bleiweiss View Post :
Hey everyone:

Trying to help a friend put together a gaming computer, with the specs below! I haven't built my own rig for 2+ years now, so I'm complete in the dark about what's the best bang for his buck right now. Any help would be appreciated!

1. Purpose of computer: Playing Lord of the Rings Online

2. Budget: Approx $750, but I can go over if it makes a big difference in performance

3. List which parts you have:
a. CPU: Need
b. Mobo: Need
c. video card: Need
d. Hard drive: Need
e. Ram: Need
f. power supply: Need
g. Case: Need
h: Optical drive (DVD/BluRay, etc): Need
i: Keyboard, mouse, monitor - I have these
j: Operating system: Need


4. Will you be overclocking?
No

If there's a good deal on a prebuilt right now that would be better or comparable to building my own for the game I'm looking to optimize, I'm open to that - but otherwise I need a bunch of help putting this system together from scratch based on recommendations and my own naivette on the subject of picking out the right parts Smilie

Thank you in advance for help!

- Ben
Live near Fry's or microcenter?
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#4354
Quote from tonewaylo View Post :
Live near Fry's or microcenter?
Dont' live near any good computer stores, sorry - I'm in Roanoke, VA and everything I'm building will need to be mail ordered Smilie
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#4355
Quote from Ben Bleiweiss View Post :
Hey everyone:

Trying to help a friend put together a gaming computer, with the specs below! I haven't built my own rig for 2+ years now, so I'm complete in the dark about what's the best bang for his buck right now. Any help would be appreciated!

1. Purpose of computer: Playing Lord of the Rings Online

2. Budget: Approx $750, but I can go over if it makes a big difference in performance

3. List which parts you have:
a. CPU: Need
b. Mobo: Need
c. video card: Need
d. Hard drive: Need
e. Ram: Need
f. power supply: Need
g. Case: Need
h: Optical drive (DVD/BluRay, etc): Need
i: Keyboard, mouse, monitor - I have these
j: Operating system: Need


4. Will you be overclocking?
No

If there's a good deal on a prebuilt right now that would be better or comparable to building my own for the game I'm looking to optimize, I'm open to that - but otherwise I need a bunch of help putting this system together from scratch based on recommendations and my own naivette on the subject of picking out the right parts Smilie

Thank you in advance for help!

- Ben
Ok, if you have to order everything... Man that kinda sucks but I'm up to the challenge. So...
CPU + Motherboard: i3 + mobo = $200 (Honestly, I'd go with the i3 with your budget.) alternatives are i5 + mobo = $300 or i7 + mobo = $400 (overkill IMO)
Video Card: HD 7850 (~$180), HD 7870 (~$230), or HD 7950 (~$280) - these numbers are AR and could be slightly off. Rule of thumb though, i3 + 7950 > i7 + 7850. Assuming we go for 7870 we're now at $430.
Hard Drive: I'm against an SSD for a budget build, feel free if you insist but don't include that in the $750 budget. I say get a 1TB for closest to $55 to $65 as you can (or 500GB and save a few bucks.)
Case: I have to, HAVE to recommend a HAF 912. Around $50 is great, add in a few FAR case fans from here and your set. $50
RAM: toss up, I'd honestly go with 4GB until prices drop. Other option is 8GB. No need to get 16. 8GB is ~$45. Now we're at $590 or so. And an OS is easy $90, unless he's a student he may be able to get through school. I assume not, so $680.
Optical Drive: $15-$20

That leave $50 for a power supply... There's often decent ones on here for ~$30-$60 AR on here. (Thinking Corsair CX 530 in particular I think it is?) Closing at ~$750.

This really makes me a sad panda... I recently built a Phenom X6 1045T with everything above minus a video card for ~$200 after rebates, coupons, and student windows. I love microcenter and slickdeals!
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#4356
hmm well based on the system specs for LOTRO found here http://archive.lotro.com/getting-...quirements

you'd be fine with any kind of fairly recent prebuilt system with the addition of a video card over the onboard crap.

maybe something like this http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?...-R&cat=SYS
for $399 plus shipping

Features/Specifications:

Gateway DX4870-UR358 Core i5-3330 Quad-Core 3.0GHz Desktop PC

General Features:
Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit pre-installed
Intel Core i5-3330 3.0 GHz quad-core processor
6 MB Intel Smart Cache, 5 GT/s DMI, Intel Hyper-Threading Technology
3.2 GHz Max Turbo Frequency
Intel B75 Express chipset
4 GB DDR3 RAM (16 GB maximum)
500 GB SATA hard drive
DVD±RW DL SATA drive
Integrated Intel HD graphics
Integrated high definition audio
Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Multi-in-One memory card reader
Power and Expansion Drive Eject buttons

Supported Media:
Secure Digital (SD)
MultiMediaCard (MMC)
MultiMediaCard Plus (MMC Plus)
Memory Stick (MS)
Memory Stick PRO
xD-Picture

Motherboard Features:
One (1) PCI Express x16 slot
Three (3) PCI Express x1 slots
Six (6) SATA ports (two occupied)
Four (4) 240-pin DDR3 DIMM sockets

then add this http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?...15&cat=VCD
for $97 plus shipping, but it has a 20 dollar rebate on it.

Features/Specifications:

ZOTAC GeForce GT 640 Zone 2GB DDR3 PCI Express (PCIe) Dual DVI Video Card

General Features:
NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 GPU
2 GB DDR3
128-bit memory bus
Core Clock: 900 MHz
Memory clock: 1782 MHz
384 core processors
PCI Express 3.0 (compatible with 1.1)
NVIDIA Adaptive Vertical Sync Technology
NVIDIA Surround Technology
NVIDIA Unified Architecture
NVIDIA PhysX Technology
NVIDIA CUDA Technology
Hardware Video Decode Acceleration
Blu-ray 3D ready
HDMI xvYCC Color & DeepColor technologies
Lossless audio bitstream capable
Passive Silent Cooler (dual-slot)

Connectors:
Dual DVI (Up to 2560x1600)
Mini-HDMI 1.4a w/audio (8-channel)
VGA (with included adapter)
Triple simultaneous display capable
HDCP compliant

HDTV ready:
ED 480p
HD 720p
HD 1080i
Full HD 1080p

so total would be about 500 plus shipping minus the 20 dollar rebate on the video card and it comes with Windows 8 64 bit included (which is quite usable even if you don't like the new start screen if you get classic shell or start8 installed on it)
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#4357
Quote from potus View Post :
You already know the answer Smilie
Go with the SATA components. And use the "old" hard drive for backup in USB 3.0 (or 2.0) enclosure for backup. Consider RAID 1 if you need your system available all the time. If you can go with some downtime if a drive fails, do disk imaging and incremental backup for data.

Thanks!
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#4358
Quote from vanloggins View Post :
hmm well based on the system specs for LOTRO found here http://archive.lotro.com/getting-...quirements

you'd be fine with any kind of fairly recent prebuilt system with the addition of a video card over the onboard crap.

maybe something like this http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?...-R&cat=SYS
for $399 plus shipping

Features/Specifications:

Gateway DX4870-UR358 Core i5-3330 Quad-Core 3.0GHz Desktop PC

General Features:
Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit pre-installed
Intel Core i5-3330 3.0 GHz quad-core processor
6 MB Intel Smart Cache, 5 GT/s DMI, Intel Hyper-Threading Technology
3.2 GHz Max Turbo Frequency
Intel B75 Express chipset
4 GB DDR3 RAM (16 GB maximum)
500 GB SATA hard drive
DVD±RW DL SATA drive
Integrated Intel HD graphics
Integrated high definition audio
Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Multi-in-One memory card reader
Power and Expansion Drive Eject buttons

Supported Media:
Secure Digital (SD)
MultiMediaCard (MMC)
MultiMediaCard Plus (MMC Plus)
Memory Stick (MS)
Memory Stick PRO
xD-Picture

Motherboard Features:
One (1) PCI Express x16 slot
Three (3) PCI Express x1 slots
Six (6) SATA ports (two occupied)
Four (4) 240-pin DDR3 DIMM sockets

then add this http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?...15&cat=VCD
for $97 plus shipping, but it has a 20 dollar rebate on it.

Features/Specifications:

ZOTAC GeForce GT 640 Zone 2GB DDR3 PCI Express (PCIe) Dual DVI Video Card

General Features:
NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 GPU
2 GB DDR3
128-bit memory bus
Core Clock: 900 MHz
Memory clock: 1782 MHz
384 core processors
PCI Express 3.0 (compatible with 1.1)
NVIDIA Adaptive Vertical Sync Technology
NVIDIA Surround Technology
NVIDIA Unified Architecture
NVIDIA PhysX Technology
NVIDIA CUDA Technology
Hardware Video Decode Acceleration
Blu-ray 3D ready
HDMI xvYCC Color & DeepColor technologies
Lossless audio bitstream capable
Passive Silent Cooler (dual-slot)

Connectors:
Dual DVI (Up to 2560x1600)
Mini-HDMI 1.4a w/audio (8-channel)
VGA (with included adapter)
Triple simultaneous display capable
HDCP compliant

HDTV ready:
ED 480p
HD 720p
HD 1080i
Full HD 1080p

so total would be about 500 plus shipping minus the 20 dollar rebate on the video card and it comes with Windows 8 64 bit included (which is quite usable even if you don't like the new start screen if you get classic shell or start8 installed on it)
Thank you very much!
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#4359
Any thoughts on this memory? Good deal? Only downside is that I didn't find any good combo deals for motherboards Frown

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6820148545
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#4360
Quote from Ben Bleiweiss View Post :
Thank you very much!
No problem, hope the info and links helped you with your decision.
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#4361
Quote from indian90 View Post :
Any thoughts on this memory? Good deal? Only downside is that I didn't find any good combo deals for motherboards Frown

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6820148545

It's a good deal TODAY with RAM... If you don't need it I'd pass though. I'm fairly certain you'll be able to get it at least $20 cheaper.


http://slickdeals.net/f/5602682-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-16GB-DDR3-1600-Ram-S54-99-before-tax?v=1
^I want to say it's been cheaper than this at some point too...
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#4362
Quote from mantis3 View Post :
SD'ers, can you give me some case fan advice for this build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HKH7

The only fans I have are the two 140mm fans included with the case. My knowledge is very limited when it comes to fan placement and airflow.

Thanks!



Could you spend $110? That's the going price for the GeForce 650 TI. That's a lot of bang for your buck.
If you are not planning to crossfire in the future, then I suggest you get a 500-550watts. 750w is overkill for a single card. Other than that, looks good!
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#4363
Quote from raisethe3 View Post :
If you are not planning to crossfire in the future, then I suggest you get a 500-550watts. 750w is overkill for a single card. Other than that, looks good!
Well, I couldn't find any deals on a 500-600W PSU that was modular and 80 Plus bronze. So I figured I'd get the 750w just to be on the safe side, since I hear the 7870 XT (dumbed down 79xx) uses more wattage than the 79xx cards. The PSU cost me $70 I think

I've got everything in the mail, but unfortunately I forgot to order the CPU cooler so i'm gonna wait till that arrives Wednesday. Frown

Anything you guys suggest I install before the CPU cooler arrives?
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#4364
Quote from mantis3 View Post :
Well, I couldn't find any deals on a 500-600W PSU that was modular and 80 Plus bronze. So I figured I'd get the 750w just to be on the safe side, since I hear the 7870 XT (dumbed down 79xx) uses more wattage than the 79xx cards. The PSU cost me $70 I think

I've got everything in the mail, but unfortunately I forgot to order the CPU cooler so i'm gonna wait till that arrives Wednesday. Frown

Anything you guys suggest I install before the CPU cooler arrives?
Well then, I wish you the best of your build! Big Grin

Edit: I've been wanting to go with a GTX 670 SLI, but trying hard not to spend 800-1,000 on video cards. Lol.
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#4365
Quote from raisethe3 View Post :
Well then, I wish you the best of your build! Big Grin

Edit: I've been wanting to go with a GTX 670 SLI, but trying hard not to spend 800-1,000 on video cards. Lol.
Thanks! Got it all put together and it runs everything at max settings so far (1080p) and the only OC'ing I've gotten around to is the 3570k at 4.2ghz and stock voltage. I'll definitely try pushing it to 4.5 and then the GPU after that. Core temps are around 65 at max load using IntelBurnTest at 4.2 ghz. bounce
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