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UPDATE! As of 12/30 it appears urlhasbeenblocked has released stock in all locations and at the moment, I have tested the promo code and confirmed that the promo code works on all locations.

Caution - Chicagp VPS kernels are very outdated by 3 yrs at least - it concerns you for 1) security 2) patches 3) speed 4) upgrade paths

if you run a >uname - a command you will see their kernel is 3 yrs old without the latest security updates Kernel version# 2.6.32-042stab061 , this is an issue because your VPS shares the same host kernel which will prevent upgrades. It will fail some of the upgrades [askubuntu.com]


urlhasbeenblocked appears to offer free backups:

We support a central backup system. Everyone gets 1 free central backup to store a copy of their VPS at the time of creation.
Each additional backup is $5 per month. Please open a support ticket for additional backup's.
Backup's are provided as-is and are not gaurenteed.




$40/year with promo code "STEALOFADEAL"

Link to *special* $40 per year packages


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The welcome email provides the IP address of your new VPS..
then you can do
ssh root@[new VPS ip from welcome email]
use the password set when configuring VPS

when configuring my vps I used the hostname and domain I will use when I finish building my server.
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In case anyone else wants to upgrade from Ubuntu 11.10 to Ubuntu 12.04LTS on chicago vps, here is how I did it (64 bit). Everything seems to be working fine, so far

Code:
#update and install update-manager-core
apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
apt-get install update-manager-core
#install recompiled libc
mkdir updateOpenVZ
cd updateOpenVZ
wget https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/ovz-libc/+files/libc6_2.15-0ubuntu10%2Bopenvz0~oneiric_amd64.deb
wget https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/ovz-libc/+files/libc6-dbg_2.15-0ubuntu10%2Bopenvz0~oneiric_amd64.deb
wget https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/ovz-libc/+files/libc6-dev_2.15-0ubuntu10%2Bopenvz0~oneiric_amd64.deb
wget https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/ovz-libc/+files/libc6-i386_2.15-0ubuntu10%2Bopenvz0~oneiric_amd64.deb
wget https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/ovz-libc/+files/libc6-pic_2.15-0ubuntu10%2Bopenvz0~oneiric_amd64.deb
wget https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/ovz-libc/+files/libc6-prof_2.15-0ubuntu10%2Bopenvz0~oneiric_amd64.deb
wget https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/ovz-libc/+files/libc-bin_2.15-0ubuntu10%2Bopenvz0~oneiric_amd64.deb
wget https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/ovz-libc/+files/libc-dev-bin_2.15-0ubuntu10%2Bopenvz0~oneiric_amd64.deb
dpkg -i *

#change to precise repositories to fix broken dependencies
#to do this, change you /etc/apt/sources.list file to have the following 4 lines (you can use the command "nano /etc/apt/sources.list")
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-updates main restricted universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner

apt-get update && apt-get -f install
do-release-upgrade
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EDIT* I found some options to CPanel - Please feel free to add, (optional any help inst- would be greatly appreciated.)
DirectAdmin
Webmin
Plesk - not free
ohh boy, what did I get myself into - help for novices like me [stevenkohlmeyer.com]
similar question [webhostingtalk.com], but not clear answers here

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In case anyone else is real noobish with VPS like I am, here's a real quick guide on how I setup my server:

If you're using Windows on your desktop, download Putty so you can SSH into your server:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk...ham/putty/

You'll use the IP address in your account and the root login you defined when you purchased the VPS.


Then follow this guide to upgrade Ubuntu to 12.04 LTS through SSH:
http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-...-server-p2

For the most part, the guide follows 1-to-1 with the install. During the install, I had to tell it multiple times (like, 20) to follow the default action and leave some files. You'll know what I'm talking about when you see it.


Then follow this guide to install the cPanel alternative, Virtualmin:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1197883

Most of the guide you can skip. There's no need to edit your fqdn, IP address, or host name. On mine, this was all set when the OS was first installed. AppArmor wasn't installed by default, so I didn't have to remove it. So really, you can start on the following line:

"We are now going to download the free open source Virtualmin installation script."

After that, it's like 3 lines of code and you're installing like a boss!
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In the middle of this blog post is what you need: http://vjetnamnet.com/how-to-inst...-centos-6/
Look for the section with "Now we’re enabling ip forward and create NAT iptables rules so we can access the internet with OPENVPN server"

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Here is what I found on installing a GUI on the VPS server, it seems like the desktop GUI can be installed, I am noobie as well bounce

Install A GUI linky [webhostingneeds.com]
#Install GUI on Ubuntu VPS
#After u get new ubuntu vps, first run apt-get update

Code:
apt-get update

#Now install desktop, vps images won't have this by default

apt-get install ubuntu-desktop

#Configure the Gnome Desktop Manager and XServer

sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

#Install VNC software

sudo apt-get install vnc4server


#Start VNC server

vncserver :1 -geometry 1024x768 -depth 16 -pixelformat rgb565

#Now you will be able to connect to ubuntu VPS with VNC.

#On ubuntu, it won't start "vncconfig" on booting. You need to run "vncconfig" to share clip board between vnc.

vncconfig


#On Ubuntu 10.04, i get a terminal window on login. You can start gui application from this window. It use less CPU. If you need genome desktop, edit file

vi /root/.vnc/xstartup

Find

x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
x-window-manager &

Replace with

xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
gnome-session &

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#376
If someone could try this and let me know that would be great
http://198.23.165.91/chrome.rpm

Thanks
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#377
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Getting around 1.2MB/s on that file

trying to get webuzo installed now so I can put up a link

Are you running your own nameservers to get the name working instead of the ip?

Coming from dedicated hosting and used there nameservers so not sure the process
I get about 2.0 MB/s from my server, for what it's worth. It doesn't quite max out my connection (I have 30/5 Mbps cable).

As for the name, I'm actually just using a free dns provider for that name (http://freedns.afraid.org/).

urlhasbeenblocked also offers DNS hosting; I just didn't have a domain to host there. If you do own a domain, you can point it to urlhasbeenblocked's servers and set it up from there. That's what the DNS tab in the VPS control panel is for.

You know, all this talk about needing to consolidate information somewhere... I might try to pull the useful tidbits from these threads and put them into a wiki (I have a VPS, might as well use it for something like that, right? Smilie ).

Quote from snoturtle View Post :
If someone could try this and let me know that would be great
http://198.23.165.91/chrome.rpm

Thanks
I get 2.1MB/s from your server, which is on par with mine. What speeds are you getting?
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#378
Getting 200-300k still Frown

My cable line is 60/10 Mbps

The traceroutes still don't make any sense to me though
works fine from the server to the router closest to me but going from me to the server has some weird high latency

I wonder if that could be causing my issue

Quote from clicq View Post :
I get about 2.0 MB/s from my server, for what it's worth. It doesn't quite max out my connection (I have 30/5 Mbps cable).

As for the name, I'm actually just using a free dns provider for that name (http://freedns.afraid.org/).

urlhasbeenblocked also offers DNS hosting; I just didn't have a domain to host there. If you do own a domain, you can point it to urlhasbeenblocked's servers and set it up from there. That's what the DNS tab in the VPS control panel is for.

You know, all this talk about needing to consolidate information somewhere... I might try to pull the useful tidbits from these threads and put them into a wiki (I have a VPS, might as well use it for something like that, right? Smilie ).



I get 2.1MB/s from your server, which is on par with mine. What speeds are you getting?
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#379
Just tried your file again as I wanted to double check before I asked to be moved to another Buffalo server and now I am getting 200-300k on your file Frown

Maybe a change to Chicago might be a good idea
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Quote from snoturtle View Post :
Just tried your file again as I wanted to double check before I asked to be moved to another Buffalo server and now I am getting 200-300k on your file Frown

Maybe a change to Chicago might be a good idea
Not sure if it makes you feel any better, but I see the same thing. And then like 1 min later it's fine.

In either case, moving around in Buffalo isn't likely to help, though you'll probably want to try to do some speed tests at the different data centers at different times of the day before deciding where to go (not even sure they'll move you just because it's intermittently slow).
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#381
FYI - when dealing with traceroutes, always take middle-hop latency with a grain of salt. If the subsequent hops do not show ongoing high latency, that isn't an issue with the router or route, it's more likely to be just a delay in the router responding directly to you.

Ie:
Code:
 9  43ms   48ms   51ms   te0-6-0-5.ccr22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.83.165]
10  103ms  198ms  197ms  te9-8.ccr02.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.37]
11  212ms  77ms   108ms  te7-2.ccr02.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.1]
12  112ms  197ms  187ms  te7-8.ccr01.buf02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.245]
13  41ms   47ms   47ms   38.122.36.46
Notice how hop 9 and 13 are always 41-51ms? Even though 10-12 are >200ms at times? This isn't a problem, and is actually quite common.

In case people don't understand how traceroutes work, here is a brief primer:

Part of the TCP/IP protocol stack is a packet field called TTL or Time To Live. This is designed to prevent endless loops. If a TTL is set to, say, 64, the packet needs to arrive within 64 hops, otherwise it is discarded with a "TTL Expired" response sent by the discarding router. back to the sender Every hop (router) along the way decrements the TTL it receives by 1. While this was designed as a safety mechanism, it also gave us the ability to do a traceroute. When you do one, your system uses the ICMP protocol (like ping) to send a packet to the destination IP. It starts out with a TTL of 1. When the first hop gets it and decrements to 0, it responds back with a TTL expired message, and traceroute says "aha! that's the first hop". Then it sends another with a TTL of 2, the first hop sends it to the second, and the TTL goes down to 0, and so on.

Sometimes the path subsequent packets traverse changes in the middle of a traceroute due to routing changes and you might see weird responses or extra hops, which could (though doesn't inherently) indicate a routing issue.

However, keep in mind that routers have a primary responsibility to route packets. That is Job # 1. So when a packet goes from A to C, B will prioritize sending it on. On high end routers, this is all done at the circuit layer and requires very little intervention from the router or it's CPU. But handling TTL expired responses does require the router to process the packet at a higher level. As such, if it's handling a high workload, that response might be delayed, resulting in higher response times. Some network engineers (depending on the hardware) will set policies further lowering the priority given to responses, which is why you might see a consistently high response time from one or more hops.

But the key thing to look at is the subsequent hops. As long as the latency goes back to normal, you know that it is "routing" traffic at an acceptable speed. If, on the other hand, the latency only continued to rise, that would certainly indicate a problem.
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#382
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Nonsensical babble.
I'm not sure what "lost argument" you think you're referring to. You made a dumb suggestion and more than one person pointed out that it was a dumb suggestion. You then came back with a page rebuttal on why it was a "good idea". It's still not a good idea, pretty much no one but yourself thinks so, and yet you're still defending it.

Despite what you probably believe to be a flawless argument on your behalf (ie- not addressing a single point I made on why your idea is stupid), it still doesn't make sense for a budget VPS provider to create an entire forum just so he can help every single person who doesn't know what "SSH" means. You seem to be unaware of the hundreds of forums already out there that are entirely dedicated to VPS host comparisons, VPS issues, etc. Not to mention Chicago VPS already has a support route people can take when necessary, but it sounds like you want them to hold the hand of everyone who signs up for their $40 VPS plan. Since you're so adamant about helping people who have never used a VPS in their lives how about you create a wiki or something else productive instead of telling people how to run their business and trolling SD forums?

If you want to continue arguing about your notion of what kind of support a budget VPS provider should provide feel free to PM me. We've tainted this thread enough.
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#383
Quote from Innominate View Post :
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The fact that they are a budget VPS provider is all the more reason to provide a forum where users can provide assistance to other users. The cheaper something is, the less a company can afford to provide extensive support for it.

Just look at services that Google gives away. Have you ever tried to get support from them for GMail (that isn't the Business version)? It's impossible. But they also provide forums to allow users to help eachother on their products.

It would be trivial for any company, especially a tech-saavy VPS provider, to setup some type of forum to accomplish this. Not only would it be practically free, but it would allow them to build a knowledgebase for their customers and make it easier for n00bish users to use their services. And that, in the end, means more long-term happy customers, which means recurring revenue.
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It would be trivial for any company, especially a tech-saavy VPS provider, to setup some type of forum to accomplish this. Not only would it be practically free, but it would allow them to build a knowledgebase for their customers and make it easier for n00bish users to use their services. And that, in the end, means more long-term happy customers, which means recurring revenue.
fwiw -- I know where you can pick up a decent $40 VPS for something like this. There's some debate about the best avenue for support, but hey, what do you expect from a $40 VPS?? Should be good enough for a wiki or basic forum. Let me know if you want a link.. Cool
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Quote :
FYI - when dealing with traceroutes, always take middle-hop latency with a grain of salt. If the subsequent hops do not show ongoing high latency, that isn't an issue with the router or route, it's more likely to be just a delay in the router responding directly to you.
I'm glad you wrote that all out -- i was thinking the same thing needed to be addressed here, but I didn't really want to type it all out!


I have found tcptraceroute to suffer a bit less of the single hop delays showing up, so I use it in conjunction with traceroute to verify results (iirc tcptraceroute gets through with less of these stalls because the tcp packets are getting priority by looking more important to the various routers than a regular traceroute packet normally appears).

Great write-up!
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#386
lol great post Smilie

If everything works like it should (fingers crossed lol) I should have a domain and message board setup within a few hours that can be used for this

Waiting on dns to propagate than it should work
I hope lol

Will post link once its working


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fwiw -- I know where you can pick up a decent $40 VPS for something like this. There's some debate about the best avenue for support, but hey, what do you expect from a $40 VPS?? Should be good enough for a wiki or basic forum. Let me know if you want a link.. Cool
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#387
Give this site a try
Will try and get some of the basic info posted later today and create some more forums

http://fixurstuff.com/punbb/index.php
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#388
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Give this site a try
Will try and get some of the basic info posted later today and create some more forums

http://fixurstuff.com/punbb/index.php

Works for me!

Now, the only challenge is to get people to use it....
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#389
Got a response back from a mod about the other thread:
Quote :
Mod Alert closed with message: The thread was removed due to possible self promotion, which we are looking into. If it's determined that it is/was self promotion, the thread will likely stay gone.
It's too bad, because it contained a lot of useful information for first time VPS users, myself included, in setting things up properly.
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Quote from g0bez View Post :
fwiw -- I know where you can pick up a decent $40 VPS for something like this. There's some debate about the best avenue for support, but hey, what do you expect from a $40 VPS?? Should be good enough for a wiki or basic forum. Let me know if you want a link.. Cool
To clarify the situation with the avenues of support - while Chris and I occasionally frequent SlickDeals and answer any direct questions/concerns (to a certain extent to ensure we do not violate SD site rules), it is still an un-official channel for support, and if you have an urgent matter I recommend contacting us via our helpdesk [urlhasbeenblocked.net] because we have technicians who actively monitor our ticketing system around the clock.

Thanks for the interest,

Kevin
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