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Quote from Steve12 : The first PC I owned used a AMD 386 DX-40 chip and it kicked ass over the Intel 386-33! -old fart

Talking of old stuff, whatever happened to Cyrix?

Quote from cluedweasel : Talking of old stuff, whatever happened to Cyrix?

Bought out by National in 97 iirc, which makes a lot of cell phone chips.

Quote from MeatCatalog : Bought out by National in 97 iirc, which makes a lot of cell phone chips.

Interesting. Thanks.

Quote from nanikore : Nvidia's making plenty of money in tablets with Tegra 3, and Nvidia took away GPU shares from BOTH Intel and AMD (Tegra took GPU share from Intel, GeForce took GPU share from AMD) So no tears for Nvidia

How did Tegra take GPU share from intel, what the hell are you talking about.

Quote from sklar : The other 32,000 companies that make cpu's, and the ones that'd jump into the business if Intel raised prices, not to mention the people who are used to buying these products at a particular price point and would stop buying them at an elevated level?

Right now the future is mostly about low power mobile CPUs anyway since 99% of people don't need crazy super fast desktop CPUs anymore since there's no "killer app" that's forcing desktop upgrades. Even a 5 year old Core 2 Duo is still perfectly usable.
And intel has plenty of competition in that arena with ARM and it's licensees which is why intel stock has taken quite the beating (not as bad as AMD but pretty bad)

Quote from Cirrus : How did Tegra take GPU share from intel, what the hell are you talking about.

Read the news to learn "what the hell I'm talking about".

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/14568/

Any chip that contains GPU are counted as part of the GPU market. This includes Nvidia's Tegra 3 and some of Intel's processors with integrated graphics.

Quote from nanikore : Read the news to learn "what the hell I'm talking about". http://www.legitreviews.com/news/14568/ Any chip that contains GPU are counted as part of the GPU market. This includes Nvidia's Tegra 3 and some of Intel's processors with integrated graphics.

I know damned well what a GPU is, I'm asking how the hell they would have taken away any market share from intel when intel had no market share in the modern tablet market where Tegras are used-how would this be "taking away" GPU share? Tegras aren't used in any situation where an intel GPU is competing which is why I'm asking you what the hell you're talking about. Tegras are used in the mobile space where intel is not (yet) a serious GPU vendor so how can they "take away" any market share when intel has no market share to begin with? You can't take away market share from someone who has none to speak of. If anything, intel is the one that's working on taking away some of nVidia's mobile GPU market share with their new mobile phone SoCs.

And on the desktop nVidia doesn't use Tegra chips, and on top of that every computer that uses nVidia add-in boards is also carrying an intel GPU. Tegra didn't "take away" any market share from intel GPUs because it never competed with intel GPUs, which currently only exist with intel CPUs anyway.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about with regards to Tegra and the legitreviews article doesn't say anything about "tegra taking away intel market share" it's about overall GPU market shares. If you had said that there's increasing popularity of GeForce GPUs being used as the primary GPU in the desktop market that would have been an accurate statement but you wrote about "Tegras" taking away intel's market share which is nonsense. And the legitreviews article is plain ridiculous anyways since all those desktops running nVidia GPUs also carry an intel GPU that it's just not using.

TL;DR Tegras are primarily used in the low-cost tablet space (see Nexus 7) and are not currently competing with intel GPUs so they cannot have "taken away" any of intel's nonexistent market share. If you meant GeForce GPUs then so be it, but that's not what you wrote.

Quote from Cirrus : I know damned well what a GPU is, I'm asking how the hell they would have taken away any market share from intel when intel had no market share in the modern tablet market where Tegras are used-how would this be "taking away" GPU share? Tegras aren't used in any situation where an intel GPU is competing which is why I'm asking you what the hell you're talking about. And on the desktop nVidia doesn't use Tegra chips, and on top of that every computer that uses nVidia add-in boards is also carrying whatever intel GPU it already has, it's just not used.

Intel's not playing in tablets yet (they are, but not nearly enough), which is why they get their share taken away by all the new tablets that have GPUs not made by them.

Quote from Cirrus : I know damned well what a GPU is, I'm asking how the hell they would have taken away any market share from intel when intel had no market share in the modern tablet market where Tegras are used-how would this be "taking away" GPU share? Tegras aren't used in any situation where an intel GPU is competing which is why I'm asking you what the hell you're talking about. Tegras are used in the mobile space where intel is not (yet) a serious GPU vendor so how can they "take away" any market share when intel has no market share to begin with? You can't take away market share from someone who has none to speak of. If anything, intel is the one that's working on taking away some of nVidia's mobile GPU market share with their new mobile phone SoCs. And on the desktop nVidia doesn't use Tegra chips, and on top of that every computer that uses nVidia add-in boards is also carrying an intel GPU. Tegra didn't "take away" any market share from intel GPUs because it never competed with intel GPUs, which currently only exist with intel CPUs anyway. You clearly don't know what you're talking about with regards to Tegra and the legitreviews article doesn't say anything about "tegra taking away intel market share" it's about overall GPU market shares. If you had said that there's increasing popularity of GeForce GPUs being used as the primary GPU in the desktop market that would have been an accurate statement but you wrote about "Tegras" taking away intel's market share which is nonsense. And the legitreviews article is plain ridiculous anyways since all those desktops running nVidia GPUs also carry an intel GPU that it's just not using. TL;DR Tegras are primarily used in the low-cost tablet space (see Nexus 7) and are not currently competing with intel GPUs so they cannot have "taken away" any of intel's nonexistent market share. If you meant GeForce GPUs then so be it, but that's not what you wrote.

The world doesn't revolve around desktops or even PCs anymore.

PC sales took a dump this quarter while tablet sales took off. While PC makers are busy moaning and groaning and licking their wounds (and taking hits on their stock price, INTC being one of them) Asus had a good quarter thanks to the boost they got from tablet sales. Not so for the other PC makers unless you count Apple.

Considering how bad PCs are doing and how good tablets are in stark contrast it's hardly surprising that GPU shares went north for Nvidia where they have a good tablet presence while it went south for Intel and AMD where they just don't.

Quote from Cirrus : Right now the future is mostly about low power mobile CPUs anyway since 99% of people don't need crazy super fast desktop CPUs anymore since there's no "killer app" that's forcing desktop upgrades. Even a 5 year old Core 2 Duo is still perfectly usable. And intel has plenty of competition in that arena with ARM and it's licensees which is why intel stock has taken quite the beating (not as bad as AMD but pretty bad)

That was pretty much my point, my response being about where the competition would come from once AMD goes out of business.

However I'm not sure that computers are fast enough yet. They don't do what I say, let alone what I want. And they don't do it before I want it. When that all happens transparently and perfectly, then they're fast enough.