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Acer Red 11.6" AO725-0687 Laptop PC with AMD Dual-Core C-70 Accelerated Processor and Windows 8 Operating System $198 @ Walmart B&M

MisterRunon 492 December 15, 2012 at 09:55 PM in Computers (4) More Walmart Deals
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Did a search on this, didn't see any results. it's no longer available online, but i see a few stores in my area with this price.

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http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Re...m/21853455

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AMD Dual-Core C-70 accelerated processor
2GB memory; 320GB hard drive
11.6" HD CineCrystal LED-backlit display
Webcam, 5-in-1 card reader, WiFi
Windows 8 Operating System

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#316
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I wouldn't classify the E2-series as "desktop experience." If you know what you are doing, it is still great. For the average user (IE + millions of coupon printers, viruses, browser toolbars, etc) it will disappoint.

Considering AMD is launching Kabini in <3 months, hold off unless the price is right. Anything more than $200 for C/E-series is pushing it now.

Kabini = Llano performance

Intel is also rushing out gimped low power Ivy Bridge to attempt to fight them off. Those will, as usual, cost ridiculous $$$$$$$$.
I would, it works fine. It will play WOW, you can watch HD You Tube videos, write emails, do the odd Office or Google .doc and download content. It can do this without issue. The E2 is not much faster but it is an improvement.

If you start loading up your browser with toolbars and other junk you will slow down an i7 machine. People aren't taught the "dangers" of a unproductive PC by adding too much "sh*t" you don't need.

As others have said and work in IT; People put two anti-virus programs on machines and allow too many programs to auto start when reboot the machine.

I have found Brazos works well for children, expectations are low; For HTPC users who don't need Netflix (many of us don't) and for general use. Works great as server, but also works well as a mobile processor. Is it blazing fast? No! I believe AMD's partners are overcharging for laptops offering E1 or E2, the max these things should cost is $350 and that is loaded with Blueooth and maybe a finger print reader for that money.

I agree with you otherwise though, I have used a laptop with similar specs at the local BB and for what I do (which is more than the average PC user) it works just fine as long as your not demanding a DVD be ripped and encoded using Handbrake in less than 20 mins, it won't happen...

It works much better with a SSD as the weaker APU does exaggerate the standard 5400rpm drive installed in these things...
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I would, it works fine. It will play WOW, you can watch HD You Tube videos, write emails, do the odd Office or Google .doc and download content. It can do this without issue. The E2 is not much faster but it is an improvement.

If you start loading up your browser with toolbars and other junk you will slow down an i7 machine. People aren't taught the "dangers" of a unproductive PC by adding too much "sh*t" you don't need.

As others have said and work in IT; People put two anti-virus programs on machines and allow too many programs to auto start when reboot the machine.

I have found Brazos works well for children, expectations are low; For HTPC users who don't need Netflix (many of us don't) and for general use. Works great as server, but also works well as a mobile processor. Is it blazing fast? No! I believe AMD's partners are overcharging for laptops offering E1 or E2, the max these things should cost is $350 and that is loaded with Blueooth and maybe a finger print reader for that money.

I agree with you otherwise though, I have used a laptop with similar specs at the local BB and for what I do (which is more than the average PC user) it works just fine as long as your not demanding a DVD be ripped and encoded using Handbrake in less than 20 mins, it won't happen...

It works much better with a SSD as the weaker APU does exaggerate the standard 5400rpm drive installed in these things...
C-70 works fine with netflix (well, occasionally i would have to stop the player to re-sync the video), but it's other flash sites (like NBA.com + another site i use to watch anime) that stutters. hell, even my galaxy s2 can handle the anime site... but this CPU, despite all of my efforts, isn't capable of handling it.

i've already installed a fresh copy of windows 7, turned on hardware acceleration, upgraded the ram to 4 GB, and tweaked windows settings (removed aero).. but it still can't handle certain sites.

i wanted this machine mainly for media consumption (HTPC), so i think i'm gonna try to return this machine.. unless someone here wants it for $210 (upgraded to 4GB ram.. i can leave the SSD in if you like too). for $100 more, i can get a machine that can play any media i throw at it (and be 11.6"). im in orange county, CA if anyone is interested.
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Quote from Anthony Thomas View Post :
I would, it works fine. It will play WOW, you can watch HD You Tube videos, write emails, do the odd Office or Google .doc and download content. It can do this without issue. The E2 is not much faster but it is an improvement.

If you start loading up your browser with toolbars and other junk you will slow down an i7 machine. People aren't taught the "dangers" of a unproductive PC by adding too much "sh*t" you don't need.

As others have said and work in IT; People put two anti-virus programs on machines and allow too many programs to auto start when reboot the machine.

I have found Brazos works well for children, expectations are low; For HTPC users who don't need Netflix (many of us don't) and for general use. Works great as server, but also works well as a mobile processor. Is it blazing fast? No! I believe AMD's partners are overcharging for laptops offering E1 or E2, the max these things should cost is $350 and that is loaded with Blueooth and maybe a finger print reader for that money.

I agree with you otherwise though, I have used a laptop with similar specs at the local BB and for what I do (which is more than the average PC user) it works just fine as long as your not demanding a DVD be ripped and encoded using Handbrake in less than 20 mins, it won't happen...

It works much better with a SSD as the weaker APU does exaggerate the standard 5400rpm drive installed in these things...
You would be correct. OEM's are making a killing selling the Bobcat APU's and it shows as 60% of AMD's mobile chips are Bobcat. They get away with it because in the same way Intel dominates high end CPU's--AMD dominates low power and the GPU/APU. There is absolutely no competition.



I would also love to see SSD plus the fastest DDR possible. Too many OEM's throw in the cheapest RAM which hurts the APU's speed.



(BTW, Netflix works fine in Win8; app doesn't use silverlight.)
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btw does anyone know what walmart's return policy is?
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C-70 works fine with netflix (well, occasionally i would have to stop the player to re-sync the video), but it's other flash sites (like NBA.com + another site i use to watch anime) that stutters. hell, even my galaxy s2 can handle the anime site... but this CPU, despite all of my efforts, isn't capable of handling it.

i've already installed a fresh copy of windows 7, turned on hardware acceleration, upgraded the ram to 4 GB, and tweaked windows settings (removed aero).. but it still can't handle certain sites.

i wanted this machine mainly for media consumption (HTPC), so i think i'm gonna try to return this machine.. unless someone here wants it for $210 (upgraded to 4GB ram.. i can leave the SSD in if you like too). for $100 more, i can get a machine that can play any media i throw at it (and be 11.6"). im in orange county, CA if anyone is interested.
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The current AMD C-series and E-series can beat every single Intel Atom that will exist until 2014 (Intel swaps out PowerVR graphics)--that's how shitty Intel Atom's are. It's not "basically the same as an Atom." I know for 100% certainty that you have never used an AMD C/E-series chip and maybe neither an Atom system to make these comments. Atom is completely garbage.

How the hell does a desktop P4 system have anything to do with a netbook?

I was going to recommend waiting for AMD Kabini in 1Q but you will just bitch that it isn't as fast as a desktop i7. So....we get it. You see no value in the netbook form factor. You see no value in low power CPU's. You see no benefit in battery life. You don't want a netbook. Go buy a laptop or tablet and move on.
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I love how passmark "points" translates perfectly with performance. Passmark also shows AMD A10 APU's scoring as high as i5/i7's....

D525:
- Complete shit GPU
- Any flash website will turn into a slideshow; there was a reason ION was put into the system-- then power consumption skyrocketed.

Nxxxx/Dxxxx:
- Semi shit GPU
- No 64bit video drivers ever
- DirectX 9 only
- No linux support ever.

i3-330UM
- 18W TDP! laugh out loud
- was $80-$100 more
- Intel GMA laugh out loud

Absolutely no one looking at the netbook form facter cares about CPU speed. Between turbo, OoOE, and a better GPU -- those CPU benchmarks are pretty meaningless.




Confused

With turbo the C-70 = E-300 with 50% less power used. That is almost the E-350 you actually like.
Thanks OP. You helped a lot! I really wanted this too! For $200 - cashback I really thought it would be a nice deal. I'll cancel my order before picking it up.

OP even states upgraded ram, harddrive and clean version of windows he still had problems with certain websites.

The only reason I compared this to a 7 year old processor is because I couldn't believe that with newer tech, smaller die, dual core etc it's still slower in benchmarks. If anyone has a 7 year old PC at home and is frustrated, then they are going to have the same frustrations with this new one. That's why I compared it!

I wouldn't compare an $800 laptop to this one... that's silly. But when tablets basically handle all sites - I think it might be safer to go that route. Cheap tablet + cheap larger laptop will give a better user experience.

I'll keep the nexus 7 and the Asus Vivobook with 15+ hours of battery life. I realize it was much more expensive but it also has touch screen and triple (or double) the battery life and better performance.
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Could use some help/advice here.....

I picked up one of these as a last minute 'bonus' Christmas gift for my son-to-be-college-bound teen. Something portable to help with school....Not expecting the world but she does have some everyday uses and if this will suffice then great...

Her uses - Facebook, Twitter, Pandora, You tube & schoolwork

I loved the price, but if it wont work I can take it back and save for a full-size laptop....She has an older Asus EE Atom single core mini-pc and now pretty unhappy with it...She does have an Android Phone for apps and my Quad Core desktop for major needs.....Should I keep this or is it better to save up for a full size laptop - asking for help from all the college SDers...

I have the ability to add Ram & SSD but for that price..Ram no issue but if I gotta buy $100 HD - then might as well invest in a better unit????
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#322
I have a quad core i7 laptop with 8gb of ram running fresh install of windows 8 on a 7200rpm HDD.
So I know how a smooth computer runs.

Having said that, this little $200 gem was quite sluggish out of the box. But after removing all acer bloatware (and there is a bunch), it works like a charm.

Multiple tabs open, skype on the side etc. no issues at all. It will have a random slowdown every now and then (bottleneck seemed to be the 2gb of ram, so I have just upgraded that to 4gb, but have yet to use it extensively with that).
Most of the time it performs great. Startup is decently fast too now after clearing all the acer nonsense off the system.

Also tried this out with HD youtube video outputing to an external 1080p screen via HDMI... stuttered a little on 1080, but couldn't tell whether it was my internet connection or the laptop.
With 720 on a bunch of videos worked without an issue.

Would definitely recommend this laptop! I like it so much that I'm picking up a second one tomorrow!
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#323
Where do you guys find the iso file to do a clean Windows 8 install for the Acer?
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Where do you guys find the iso file to do a clean Windows 8 install for the Acer?
Actually is it possible to do a clean install of windows 8 to remove all the bloatware? I am new to windows 8 and read around on the internet but still confused on the procedure. Thanks!
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Quote from Lorax View Post :
Could use some help/advice here.....

I picked up one of these as a last minute 'bonus' Christmas gift for my son-to-be-college-bound teen. Something portable to help with school....Not expecting the world but she does have some everyday uses and if this will suffice then great...

Her uses - Facebook, Twitter, Pandora, You tube & schoolwork

I loved the price, but if it wont work I can take it back and save for a full-size laptop....She has an older Asus EE Atom single core mini-pc and now pretty unhappy with it...She does have an Android Phone for apps and my Quad Core desktop for major needs.....Should I keep this or is it better to save up for a full size laptop - asking for help from all the college SDers...

I have the ability to add Ram & SSD but for that price..Ram no issue but if I gotta buy $100 HD - then might as well invest in a better unit????
I'm assuming, "soon-to-be-college." Smilie


If she is already killing a netbook, she will most likely do the same for another netbook. If her only problem is the Intel-GPU choking on every single flash intensive page (i.e. every single website now), this will be an upgrade.


Stick with 11.6" size:
Wait for Kabini "netbooks" coming 1Q. This chip will kill the negative "netbook" connotation.
OP price should plummet. Kabini may have stock issues because it will be ridiculously popular.

Avoid any of the newer Atom's unless they are giving them away.


Chromebooks? She would need constant wifi or the machine turns into a paperweight. No Win programs.

Get a 15.6" laptop.
Should last till graduation.

AMD A8/10 = $350 max

Intel i3-3xxx = $350 max
Intel i3-2xxx = $300 max

Depends on time frame and how long you want to last.
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I'm assuming, "soon-to-be-college." Smilie


If she is already killing a netbook, she will most likely do the same for another netbook. If her only problem is the Intel-GPU choking on every single flash intensive page (i.e. every single website now), this will be an upgrade.


Stick with 11.6" size:
Wait for Kabini "netbooks" coming 1Q. This chip will kill the negative "netbook" connotation.
OP price should plummet. Kabini may have stock issues because it will be ridiculously popular.

Avoid any of the newer Atom's unless they are giving them away.


Chromebooks? She would need constant wifi or the machine turns into a paperweight. No Win programs.

Get a 15.6" laptop.
Should last till graduation.

AMD A8/10 = $350 max

Intel i3-3xxx = $350 max
Intel i3-2xxx = $300 max

Depends on time frame and how long you want to last.
Thanks for the reply and yes you are correct bounce

Actually, its one of those Acer Revo's with a Atom & ION graphics - about 2 yrs old - so I am thinking about keeping this - I would do the ram and with an SSD it could be an excellent traveling companion for her or me after she graduates.....And wouldnt freak out if something happened - cant hardly buy an operating system and card reader for the price of this....the amount of connectivity is pretty amazing for the price...
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You would be correct. OEM's are making a killing selling the Bobcat APU's and it shows as 60% of AMD's mobile chips are Bobcat. They get away with it because in the same way Intel dominates high end CPU's--AMD dominates low power and the GPU/APU. There is absolutely no competition.



I would also love to see SSD plus the fastest DDR possible. Too many OEM's throw in the cheapest RAM which hurts the APU's speed.



(BTW, Netflix works fine in Win8; app doesn't use silverlight.)
I know but as I posted earlier don't tell the HTPC community this because they don't like the fact MS changed nothing in Windows Media Center. I am positive that Netflix app works in desktop mode only IE: not with the WMC User Interface. Making it clumsy to use as an HTPC, shuttling between desktop and WMC. As I said anything on Netflix is "out there".
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Thanks for the reply and yes you are correct bounce

Actually, its one of those Acer Revo's with a Atom & ION graphics - about 2 yrs old - so I am thinking about keeping this - I would do the ram and with an SSD it could be an excellent traveling companion for her or me after she graduates.....And wouldnt freak out if something happened - cant hardly buy an operating system and card reader for the price of this....the amount of connectivity is pretty amazing for the price...
C-series will "feel" snappier due to the dual-core, turbo, OoOE, and newer GPU but it most likely will still fall short. Even the ION 1 shouldn't choke on flash websites. If you had a non-ION system, this would be a huge upgrade. This will be only a slight upgrade.

IMHO, wait for Kabini or go bigger.

You can try SSD on the old ION system (most likely won't help); maybe put Lubuntu/LXDE linux distro on it?
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Actually is it possible to do a clean install of windows 8 to remove all the bloatware? I am new to windows 8 and read around on the internet but still confused on the procedure. Thanks!
Yes. Just stick any Windows 8 media (upgrade or full).

Boot the media before the spinning logo (mash F2 and change boot order in the UEFI BIOS).

Windows 8 will detect the chip-coded Windows 8 key and install. There is no key to enter.
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last call if anyone wants the laptop (im in orange county, CA). ill give it at cost of course, so that's about $220.

sweet, i just won an ao756 for $203 (with 4GB ram) 320GB hard drive on ebay. should be much better than the ao725... but thicker unfortunately.
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