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Acer Red 11.6" AO725-0687 Laptop PC with AMD Dual-Core C-70 Accelerated Processor and Windows 8 Operating System $198 @ Walmart B&M

MisterRunon 492 December 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM in Computers (4) More Walmart Deals
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Did a search on this, didn't see any results. it's no longer available online, but i see a few stores in my area with this price.

To order it for in-store pick up, choose your store location, add to cart, and pay for the laptop. Then print out your invoice.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Re...m/21853455

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AMD Dual-Core C-70 accelerated processor
2GB memory; 320GB hard drive
11.6" HD CineCrystal LED-backlit display
Webcam, 5-in-1 card reader, WiFi
Windows 8 Operating System

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#361
I upgraded it with the drivers from the Acer site. When I get home I'm going to see if there's updated drivers on the AMD site.
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I upgraded it with the drivers from the Acer site. When I get home I'm going to see if there's updated drivers on the AMD site.
You kind of have to trick the site to get to the drivers. If you choose "Notebook Graphics" it takes you to a driver verification tool. If you choose "Desktop Graphics" you can get to Catalyst Software Suite 12.10 [amd.com]. You can see in the release notes [amd.com] that there is support for the various mobility series.
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#363
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I'm curious to know if you tried the latest drivers from AMD or did you just test with the drivers that Acer provides?
i download drivers from AMD for windows 7, and i only used the supplied drivers for win8. i didn't want to even bother trying anymore at that point.. i had done other mods (voltage, windows performances tweaks, etc) and didn't really want to spend more time.

instead i got the ao756 for $203 on ebay.. much better deal imo.
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#364
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You kind of have to trick the site to get to the drivers. If you choose "Notebook Graphics" it takes you to a driver verification tool. If you choose "Desktop Graphics" you can get to Catalyst Software Suite 12.10 [amd.com]. You can see in the release notes [amd.com] that there is support for the various mobility series.
Thanks for the heads up.
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#365
so final decision, the unit is going back, I can live with the playing SD only on netflix, but the internet cutting off is just insane. I tried changing my router to G mode only and thought it fixed the issue, tonight it stop working again, it does show connected, but no data will go through.

anyone know how to do a clean wipe? I tried the alt + F10 and it's not going anything
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#366
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so final decision, the unit is going back, I can live with the playing SD only on netflix, but the internet cutting off is just insane. I tried changing my router to G mode only and thought it fixed the issue, tonight it stop working again, it does show connected, but no data will go through.
anyone know how to do a clean wipe? I tried the alt + F10 and it's not going anything
any program that can boot from a USB drive will work. The easiest is www.partedmagic.com which is a 200mb linux distro that has lots of network and drive tools. you do not need to know anything about linux, it boots and looks like windows. you'll need:
1. USB flash drive, format to fat32
2. download parted magic ISO image from www.partedmagic.com
3. download unetbootin from unetbootin.sourceforge.net
4. run unetbootin, it will ask for location of the iso and the usb drive.
5. once you have PartedMagic in the usb, boot your computer from the usb drive:
-----press F2 at startup. change the "Boot Mode" from "uefi" to "legacy BIOS". F10 to save.
-----restart the computer: pressing F12(boot device order), select your usb drive. now it will boot parted magic just like windows.
6. once partedmagic finishes booting, it has several programs in it to wipe the drive.


I myself have ubuntu12.10 installed in a partition for dualboot (used gParted to create an ext4 partition). this netbook runs pretty well on ubuntu, both wifi and phone/usb tethering works well. I still had an old backup image of my old ao722 c-60, loaded it up in a different partition, and seemed to work fine, but it was asking for the win7 license key which i no longer have, so I just deleted that partition. BTW, ubuntu12.10 liveUSB will boot in uefi mode if you want to try it out, or you can install ubuntu from within windows with WUBI(windows ubuntu installer) found also in the ubuntu.com download page.

one gripe i have with this computer: its win8 might as well be called windows7starter. how can a "full" version of windows 8 not come with "windows media center"? if they want people to pay $40 for the media center, i might as well just downgrade to win7home, i'm still considering it, but ubuntu is working just fine for now. Smilie
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so final decision, the unit is going back, I can live with the playing SD only on netflix, but the internet cutting off is just insane. I tried changing my router to G mode only and thought it fixed the issue, tonight it stop working again, it does show connected, but no data will go through.

anyone know how to do a clean wipe? I tried the alt + F10 and it's not going anything
use the acer recover program. it'll factory reset your netbook back to how it was when you got it (that is if you haven't formatted the hard drive and wiped the partition)

from the windows 8 home screen, just start typing RECOVERY. it'll pull up the program.
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#368
Hi all,

Long time lurker here. Thanks for the heads up on this computer. I picked one up last week and put quite a bit of work into it. I also did a bit of research on it in the process. The biggest downside is the small battery (something like ~2300 mah), and no extended battery is available. My tiny gateway 10.1" Atom netbook has a 4200 mah battery. The upgrades I did decreased power consumption to extend battery life.

First, I can't find any real information regarding any real differences between the C-60 and C-70 processors. The C-60 has HD 6290 integrated graphics, and the C-70 has 7290 integrated graphics, but there is nothing out there on the differences between these two GPUs either. The specs for the processors and GPUs appear to be the same. I believe marketing at AMD probably just changed the name of the product. However, I think there is a difference in the chipset used; the C-60 used the A50M chipset, while the C-70 uses the A68 chipset.

You can read about the differences here:

http://technewspedia.com/amd-laun...razos-2-0/

According to this article, the chipset draws ~200 mW less power. If you look at passmark GPU and CPU scores for the HD 6290/7290 and C-60/C-70 processors, you will see a slight improvement in performance. I would guess this is due to the upgraded chipset.

C-70 (Currently score of 680): http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...D+C-70+APU
C-60 (Currently score of 590): http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...APU&id=244

HD 7290 (Currently score of 151): http://www.videocardbenchmark.net...90&id=2315
HD 6290 (Currently score of 138): http://www.videocardbenchmark.net...290&id=254

I upgraded to 4 gigs of RAM. I used Samsung 30nm 'green' ram. Because this ram is manufactured on a 30nm process, it runs at lower voltage, and draws a little less power. The RAM the machine came with was operating at 1.5 volts, and the new ram ran at 1.28 volts according to CPUz. I believe Samsung is the only company making ram on a 30nm processes right now. Soon they'll be making it at 20nm. Anyway, the price was decent:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Ele...g+30nm+4gb

I also added a solid state drive and installed a fresh copy of Windows 7. This machine holds a 9.5mm thick drive.

Finally, I lowered CPU voltages using Brazos Tweaker in an effort to decrease power draw and increase battery life. This has been mentioned in this thread before:

http://code.google.com/p/brazostweaker/

I lowered my voltages to:

P0: 1.0625 Volts
P1: 0.9125 Volts
P2: 0.8625 Volts

The RAM, SSD, and lower CPU voltages resulted in lower power consumption from 13 watts at idle to 9-10 watts at idle (as measured by my kill-a-watt meter). I expect this should increase battery life significantly.

I got my windows experience index scores to:

3.3
5.2
4.1
5.6
7.9

Was it worth all the money I put into it? Probably not. But it was fun. It's still just a netbook. It can't play games (Not even team fortress 2; which is over 5 years old at this time). Now we know what this machine is capable of at it's extreme limits.
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#369
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Now we know what this machine is capable of at it's extreme limits.
Nice work. Thanks for the information.
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#370
Has anyone found an inexpensive case or sleeve they like?
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#371
How can I do a clean install if I don't have access to windows 8 cd?
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#372
Quote from MisterRunon View Post :
instead i got the ao756 for $203 on ebay.. much better deal imo.
not really
You gave up the fusion technology plus the AMD graphic card for an intel notebook
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#373
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How can I do a clean install if I don't have access to windows 8 cd?
You can try this. [ghacks.net] One of the commenters said: "FYI, the win8 upgrade tool will run on final windows 8 if you run it in xp sp3 compatibility mode."

If that doesn't work, you can do this on another computer to create an installation disc or USB drive.
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#374
Quote from tysmanjo View Post :
Hi all,

Long time lurker here. Thanks for the heads up on this computer. I picked one up last week and put quite a bit of work into it. I also did a bit of research on it in the process. The biggest downside is the small battery (something like ~2300 mah), and no extended battery is available. My tiny gateway 10.1" Atom netbook has a 4200 mah battery. The upgrades I did decreased power consumption to extend battery life.

First, I can't find any real information regarding any real differences between the C-60 and C-70 processors. The C-60 has HD 6290 integrated graphics, and the C-70 has 7290 integrated graphics, but there is nothing out there on the differences between these two GPUs either. The specs for the processors and GPUs appear to be the same. I believe marketing at AMD probably just changed the name of the product. However, I think there is a difference in the chipset used; the C-60 used the A50M chipset, while the C-70 uses the A68 chipset.

You can read about the differences here:

http://technewspedia.com/amd-laun...razos-2-0/

According to this article, the chipset draws ~200 mW less power. If you look at passmark GPU and CPU scores for the HD 6290/7290 and C-60/C-70 processors, you will see a slight improvement in performance. I would guess this is due to the upgraded chipset.

C-70 (Currently score of 680): http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...D+C-70+APU
C-60 (Currently score of 590): http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...APU&id=244

HD 7290 (Currently score of 151): http://www.videocardbenchmark.net...90&id=2315
HD 6290 (Currently score of 138): http://www.videocardbenchmark.net...290&id=254

I upgraded to 4 gigs of RAM. I used Samsung 30nm 'green' ram. Because this ram is manufactured on a 30nm process, it runs at lower voltage, and draws a little less power. The RAM the machine came with was operating at 1.5 volts, and the new ram ran at 1.28 volts according to CPUz. I believe Samsung is the only company making ram on a 30nm processes right now. Soon they'll be making it at 20nm. Anyway, the price was decent:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Ele...g+30nm+4gb

I also added a solid state drive and installed a fresh copy of Windows 7. This machine holds a 9.5mm thick drive.

Finally, I lowered CPU voltages using Brazos Tweaker in an effort to decrease power draw and increase battery life. This has been mentioned in this thread before:

http://code.google.com/p/brazostweaker/

I lowered my voltages to:

P0: 1.0625 Volts
P1: 0.9125 Volts
P2: 0.8625 Volts

The RAM, SSD, and lower CPU voltages resulted in lower power consumption from 13 watts at idle to 9-10 watts at idle (as measured by my kill-a-watt meter). I expect this should increase battery life significantly.

I got my windows experience index scores to:

3.3
5.2
4.1
5.6
7.9

Was it worth all the money I put into it? Probably not. But it was fun. It's still just a netbook. It can't play games (Not even team fortress 2; which is over 5 years old at this time). Now we know what this machine is capable of at it's extreme limits.
I didn't even get one of these, but your post was so informative and well written with your experiences. Thanks!
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Quote from RodAr View Post :
not really
You gave up the fusion technology plus the AMD graphic card for an intel notebook
you're trolling me right? or at least you're an AMD fanboy?

the ao725 can't even stream netflix or hulu without stuttering. it's so slow that even with 4GB ram and an SSD, it still frequently dropped frames.

whoever buys this laptop to game is nuts. it's like buying a toyota tercel to race.
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