Wow, all of that and THAT is what you come away with? Having a conversation with you must be a real joy.
I can't afford a garage? Do you know where I live? Do you know what I make? I live in an area in which 70% of the housing doesn't have a garage. Average home price is 500k. Neither of those have anything to do with whether or not I can afford a garage.....or a new car. Nothing that I said even came down to finances - an electric car doesn't make sense for me. If it works for you, go for it.
There's always at least one in the crowd. I see that you're THAT guy.
People who live in areas where housing prices are over $500,000 and there are no garages usually mean major metropolitan areas, NYC, SF, DC which have a well developed mass transit systems. Those people usually don't have vehicles, since they can get pretty much anywhere in their daily commute by bus, train, trolley, or tram. There are some who still own vehicles in those area, but they prefer to park in the parkades, or under the building garages to prevent theft, vandalism, and dings.
So, if one lives in an area where housing is $500,000 and up, and desires to own a vehicle, despite a well developed public transportation system, one is usually well off enough to afford to park the said vehicle in an under the building garage, or parkade.
Perhaps there are rules preventing one from installing a charging station in the building garage, but that is different, and could possibly be worked out with the building owner/super.
Just general observations which may not apply to anyone in particular.
When we lived in such area, we were not allowed to store anything but the vehicle in the parking garage under the building, however a few greenbacks greased the super's hand, allowing us to park the car and the motorcycle in the same spot, without any protest.
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They would be 50 US mpg. Taking two similar vehicles that only differ in gasoline versus diesel, one can expect a 20-25% mpg increase, although diesel only contains 11% more energy by volume than gasoline. Plus, people here generally want bigger for their dollar, unlike in Europe where a higher quality small car can still sell well.
Modifying a vehicle to be a hybrid won't give the same benefits for the electric portion - those benefits would be the same on either vehicle. I'd expect a hybrid diesel to make around 10% better fuel economy than a hybrid gas motor. At 50mpg, you may see 55mpg instead in a turbo diesel. Then again, we're also at 10-15% ethanol, so gasoline isn't even at full energy density, and fuel economy numbers HAVE dropped from this. I wonder if manufacturer fuel economy numbers today are tested at 100% gasoline?
Diesel here costs 25% more than gasoline, so other than differences in maintenance, the benefit of diesel for dollar per mile just isn't there.
As pointed out. Depending on where you live this is far from accurate. Those of us in Northern California who are served by PG&E pay a lot for electricity and are on a tier scale where you get hit very hard the more you use. I am guessing this car would take you into the third or fourth tier if you are a average family. At that point you would not be gaining much if anything except a false sense of saving the world (debate for another day). You know all that extra copper wiring used to make car, the materials to make those toxic batteries. Using one resource in place of another.
You could actually call PG&E and tell them you want to pay a flat based rate. Most people who do buy electric cars do that and save much more than using the tier based rates.
What area do you live in? I live in So Cal and been watching them for a few months now. Most dealers only have the SL and are willing to sell them for the SV national ad price. Some dealers will even do less than $1999 down (like $500 or $1000). Let you live in my area we can work together to try to haggle the best deal.
The Leaf sucks. What happens when you run out of electricity and you're stuck on the road? Better get a tow truck ready.
The Volt has the ability to use gasoline to fuel the engine. VOLT FTW!!!
Yeah good luck with that Volt. Seems GM can't sell them..and I know why as I drove one for a day rental. Four of us decided to drive to Tahoe for a day trip. The back seat is incredibly small..only enough leg room for a 4th grader..seriously, what was GM thinking. With the four of us headed up and over the Sierras, it's a joke for power..as in a old VW bug could outrun this thing. Handling was abysmal..it's a very heavy car. The fit and finish was typical GM..lots of cheap plastic, seams that did not match, and pee poor ergonomics. I can't imagine someone paying $49,000 for this piece of crap. Last I heard, GM has stopped producing..and lets face it, this should have been named the Obama Car since his administration was on a "green" mission and were trying to soothe the taxpayers for the financial fiasco of GM bailout and payoff to UAW for their votes. And that fool, Ray LaHood, who is Sec of Transportation proclaiming this was America's new car that will change the world! Politicians and the auto industry don't mix.
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