here is a word to the wise on shipping for tv's: always open the box before signing for it, you want to check for a cracked picture screen.
it happened to me, i actually heard the dumb a** who unloaded it from the truck let something hit the ground with a "thud"... sure enough, the inside screen was cracked, but i didn't know it until after they left.
if you buy it instore, be sure and open the box in the store, before you take it outside, to check for a broken screen.
you should never attempt to do picture quality comparisons at a store, there are too many things that are wrong in that environment.
the ambient lighting is way wrong, factories don't calibrate tv's, the picture signal is usually garbage, because it's typically daisy changed into multiple tv's, etc.
are you serious?? where did I say factories do calibration? Calibration is a $150-300 separate thing.
I have looked at plasma and leds in a magnolia store in a DIM lightning environment and have a GT30 in my basement along with a hx850 in my living room that were not purchased through best buy and both the hx850 and the gt30 have been calibrated not thru best buy but from a local certified calibrator.
If you keep rambling about what is superior than the other you will clearly always be wrong. I don't hate plasmas neither do I hate leds but to say one is better than the other then no you are wrong.
you don't need to pay anyone to do a good basic calibration of a tv set.
i'd tell you to stop embarassing yourself out here, but since you don't know any better, it wouldn't do any good
Stop embarrassing yourself here and realize doing suggested calibration suggested from other forum members won't exactly work on your tv as no two panels even if its the same tv model would actually display the exact same color and iq.
Actual calibration requires a machine and a computer, I believe you don't know any better. I've been in the home theater industry for over 5 years and you are prob just reading avs and cnet reviews. Actually if you read avsforums you would probably know a good calibration would come from a professional, calibration settings for a specific tv model doesn't always work for the same tv for another.
It's ok if you think you know everything but yet you have yet to prove anything with your opinions. You are probably the person that either buys a Bose system or don't buy a Bose system cause you see reviews on avsforums.
This is $765 through epp shipped, great picture without ambiant lighting. Waiting for it to turn $700 or free tax, or go with the st50 model.
I actually ordered this on 12/19 from EPP at $765, but came to $818 with tax. I got a backorder email from them today, so I just cancelled and ordered from Frys. It is tempting to wait, but just finished my basement and want to put in TV now.
I watched espn on a vt50 and espn on a led, because of the brighter picture I was actually able to see the person's pimples on the LED vs the plasma... no it is not a calibration issue, both tvs were on the floor both set to vivid mode.
your exact words, orijin... you stupidly compared tv pictures in the store, then came out here spouting off ignorant garbage about how the led picture was better than the plasma
Anyone know how long this deal is good for? I have been looking at the 50", but this is an amazing price. How about Power Consumption compared to the 50"? I really dislike CNET, but they have the stat of about $46/yr. for the 50".
Check the UT50. You'll pay more, but it adds 3D display capability and streaming media. The panel is the same as this set.
this. When it comes to image quality, plasma is the ONLY way to go for a flat panel device. Even full array LED with local dimming cannot match a plasma panel.
Of course a plasma is still capable of burn in given the right conditions - it's a natural result of uneven aging of phosphors. However, I sincerely doubt the validity of your story - with the long life panels, it is virtually impossible to cause permanent damage within a 3 hour time span. What you are describing is most likely "image retention" which is a temporary afterimage and nothing to worry about. On new panels, it is highly recommended to set the brightness and contrast down, then view varied content for the first 100 hours or so while the phosphors age most rapidly. This means flip channels for a while before watching football all Sunday or permanently tuning into CNN. With a proper break in and the pixel orbiter turned on (I believe it is by default), it is extremely hard to damage modern plasmas. For most people, just watching TV in a normal manner will break the panel in just fine.
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It's freaking beautiful. Deep blacks, vibrant colors. My only complaints are that it could be a bit brighter and 24p playback runs at 48hz.
This. It's really, really hard to burn in a modern plasma. Some IR is fairly normal (the difference being that an after image is present, but quickly goes away while burn in is permanent) but I haven't even noticed IR on this set. I have to watch my Hitachi because it does suffer from IR, but even that hasn't burnt in and I use it as a computer monitor at times.
i am pretty sure you can make it 60hz in the settings. You can't change it unless you have something 24p playing, but when you do just go into the menu and change it to 60hz. I have the st50 and can do that, the 48hz flickers too much, less so on dark scenes, but a lot of bright ones.
Looking at the cnet review they also say you can do it, although it did not pass their 24p test at 60hz.
I have the 50" model of this tv and its freaking awesome.
For those worried about burn in... there is a feature called "Pixel Orbiter" that's suppose to slightly shift the image around to prevent that stuff. I guess it works because I've never had any issues even when I accidentally left my ps3 on its dashboard for 5 hours. lol.
cnet accidentally did a burn in test on some 2012 model plasmas that you can read here.[cnet.com] based on my brief reading of that article it seems like they used panasonic's THX Cinema mode which to the best of my knowledge disables the pixel orbiter. that could be why it faired worse than the samsung in this accidental test.
I think the lesson here is to setup your equipment to go to sleep/run a screensaver and have your tv's burn in prevention settings enabled. If you do that I can't imagine having any issues.
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