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acegolfer 204 December 24, 2012 at 05:55 PM in Cell Phone Plans & Services (4)
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Not sure whether this belongs to hot deals section but it's free after all. Mod, feel free to move to a more proper place.

There are several free VOIP solutions such as grooveip lite but they all suffer from bad quality on 3g. I found a clever way to make free and reliable internet (VOIP) calls even on 3g mobile data. I posted the full instruction on XDA forum.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/s...?t=2057887

It's complicated but it's how I can get great call quality on 3g data. I'm relying on VOIP 100% as I disabled Google Voice forwarding to my cell number.

Now I'm paying $30/m for 2000 minutes and 5GB data.

Happy Holidays!

PS: Please do not suggest Groove IP or talkatone. Theoretically, these work on 3g but in real life, it's not usable. If you can get great call quality using these apps, then consider yourself extremely lucky.

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#91
So I have ILBC only set for both "Fast" and "Slow" (Swipe right) under Codecs. Will adding others default to the lesser when higher is available? OTOH, are people adding some others in case calls get dropped due to poorer reception. Finally, advisable to enable Edge and GPRS?

If GrooveIP is like Apple, this certainly is Android. Automatic vs. stick shift if you will, but a very specialized stick shift system not many are qualified to drive.

Edit: Spent an hour testing it out after taking the plunge (looks like I'm one of the few on this forum). I'd say the voice quality is among the top of the VOIP apps I have, comparable to Vonage and GrooveIP (though I've only tried GIP on wifi since you have to pay to use it over cellular). Call quality is noticeably "fuller" than Talkatone, which I use when not on wi-fi. That said, I get the sense that either the standard apps have come a long way or maybe it's because I have fast and reliable T-mobile connection where I'm at (21Mbps down) that I don't really notice too big of a difference. So in summary for me, worth the extra effort for the bump in quality from Talkatone and avoid the need to upgrade to the full version of GrooveIP. But regardless, the more options the better. My 2 cents
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Quote from acegolfer View Post :
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.co...y-4g-plans

Get the $30 unlimited data plan and follow the instruction in OP link.
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Wrong. Any unlocked GSM phone will do.
Awesome, thanks. I'll have to find the fine print to order this.
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Quote from SlickPickSlim View Post :
Edit: Spent an hour testing it out after taking the plunge (looks like I'm one of the few on this forum). I'd say the voice quality is among the top of the VOIP apps I have, comparable to Vonage and GrooveIP (though I've only tried GIP on wifi since you have to pay to use it over cellular). Call quality is noticeably "fuller" than Talkatone, which I use when not on wi-fi. That said, I get the sense that either the standard apps have come a long way or maybe it's because I have fast and reliable T-mobile connection where I'm at (21Mbps down) that I don't really notice too big of a difference. So in summary for me, worth the extra effort for the bump in quality from Talkatone and avoid the need to upgrade to the full version of GrooveIP. But regardless, the more options the better. My 2 cents
After reading this, I installed talkatone to see its performance on 3g. (Last time I used it was 3 months ago.) Guess what? Talkatone uses speex codec. It shows at the top when you are on a call. This explains the good quality on 3g. In fact, it's a popular codec among XDA members and I have been using sipdroid w/ speex until I found iLBC.

Speex was okay but voice was choppy when non-stationary. With iLBC, I can have a conversation on highways.
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Ok if you guys don't want to go through all this headache.... download and try a program called talkatone

It supports google voice. I have tried many programs (groove ip etc....) but they all give issues even with a 4g connection. talkatone has been the best and it works great with a 3g connection. it uses a different codec than groove ip.

im not sure which method is better but talkatone serves my purpose without a hassle
Just found that talkatone uses speex codec, which I had been using before I found iLBC codec. Speex is a good but not the best codec for mobile connection.
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Free gmail calling extended to 2013.

http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/201...a.html?m=1
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I have an extra $100 T-mobile minutes refill card. $90 OBO - PM me if you're interested
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Anybody else start to get spam texts after registering their Google Voice number with pbxes.com? Granted, we could easily block these texts through Google Voice but I also don't want my number floating around...
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Yes.

Follow all the instructions except for csipsimple. Just install your favorite iOS SIP app.
Followed the instructions, but I'm stuck at Step 8/Add an extension. I have an iPhone so I couldn't setup PBXES through SipDroid. Is adding an extension mandatory?

EDIT: I also tried adding my DID # from CallCentric to my GV account, but I couldn't verify the number because my phone never rang.
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Quote from BlueSteel45 View Post :
Followed the instructions, but I'm stuck at Step 8/Add an extension. I have an iPhone so I couldn't setup PBXES through SipDroid. Is adding an extension mandatory?

EDIT: I also tried adding my DID # from CallCentric to my GV account, but I couldn't verify the number because my phone never rang.
If you didn't use sipdroid, then you skipped several steps before getting to Step 8. So it will not work.

Have any android device handy to complete the steps involving sipdroid. Once you setup the pbxes account using sipdroid, you don't need sipdroid any more and can uninstall it.
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Quote from acegolfer View Post :
If you didn't use sipdroid, then you skipped several steps before getting to Step 8. So it will not work.

Have any android device handy to complete the steps involving sipdroid. Once you setup the pbxes account using sipdroid, you don't need sipdroid any more and can uninstall it.
I have a TF101, will that work? Assuming that'll work, will the Sipdroid extension work with the iPhone and Acrobits SIP app? TIA!!
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okay, what did i miss... i can receive calls, but cannot make them. Your post says, "use phone dialer" for outbound calls. So, this is only free inbound calls, but paid outbound calls?
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okay, what did i miss... i can receive calls, but cannot make them. Your post says, "use phone dialer" for outbound calls. So, this is only free inbound calls, but paid outbound calls?
Incorrect. It's free in and OUT calls. "use phone dialer" doesn't mean using minutes.
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Quote from acegolfer View Post :
Incorrect. It's free in and OUT calls. "use phone dialer" doesn't mean using minutes.
Ace of an answer there. The question is: What did I miss? Because right now, I can only receive calls. Outbound calls fail. I'm using ipkall, does that matter?
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It's impossible to tell what you missed because you didn't mention what you did.

You will probably get more help by posting in xda as there are many posters willing to help.
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It all depends on your phone. Android phones are a lot harder since each phone has a different method. iPhones are easy. Just download a free app called ifile and then go to a sendspace.com link and download it straight to your phone. Then in ifile click on it and hit apply. Restart your phone. Your phone will look the same but if you call *2 instead of sprint, it will go to Verizon customer support. If you are using Android, the best bet is roam control. However it mainly only works on htc phones. My buddy had a htc evo 4g and wanted an sg3, so he bought the app and roamed. However the app picks a random service like tmobile, cricket, or AT&T so sometimes the speed is lower than sprint. He just hooked it up to hi computer and using an app called PDA-net he tethered the phone to type laptop and downloaded a big 2gb file. Took about a week and the next month did it again. Got kicked off. Big Grin

Pupster, yes sprint drops you for "excessive roaming". The limit is 300mb and if you pass it multiple months in a row, they will kick you off the contract etf-free. You sprint contract can have up to 5 phones, we only use 3.... So we always keep a spare phone on hand. 300mb is not that hard to max out. Since I just keep a phone in the BMW for idrive to get navigation, Facebook, and twitter, it hits 300mb every month and once they cancel your line, you need to tell them to hold your number f you want to keep it. Then open the 5th line and move E number over. Once the next phone goes bad, open the 5th line again and move the umber to that. I sometimes stop roaming after a month just to leave a little space. I try to get ONE phone kicked off every 2-3 months.
What app did he buy for Android?
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