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Pogoplug Classic Media Sharing Device (P21 Black or B01 Pink) EXPIRED

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Adorama via eBay has Pogoplug Classic Media Sharing Device (P21 Black or B01 Pink) for $17 with free shipping. Thanks DJ3xclusive

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Edited December 28, 2012 at 01:46 PM by widgit

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#196
Quote from pankajdarure View Post :
Yeah... even I got those... I feel these are due to upates in the installation script or something...!!!

But the thing is, even after these errors, the Samba seems to be working (at least my USB sticks are accessible from \\192.168.1.x path)... Smilie Smilie
But you are right, someone (who knows linux) has to fix the server start script to avoid these errors.

Hi Bagira, any idea why are we all getting these errors above when we run /etc/rc.d/samba restart ?
You should be able to see ALARM computer from your Windows machine, no need to go thru IP.

Quote from cowguy View Post :
ran that followed by /etc/rc.d/samba restart and still got the same errors
you should not run /etc/rc.d/samba restart.
After systemctl command Samba is already up and running.
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#197
Quote from Bagira View Post :
But you learn on the way, don't forget. This is a value by itself.
I am sure now you can do it in your sleep Smilie

The problem with Linux / Unix is there are too many flavors of it. And instructions mostly incomplete. And some commands work in one distro, but don't work in another etc. etc. etc.
But once you know basic concepts of Unix, you can figure the rest easily.
Learning curve is tough, I admit.
Ok, thats prob why, this must be some pruned distro that doesn't have the additional options
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#198
Quote from pankajdarure View Post :
Yeah... even I got those... I feel these are due to upates in the installation script or something...!!!

But the thing is, even after these errors, the Samba seems to be working (at least my USB sticks are accessible from \\192.168.1.x path)... Smilie Smilie
But you are right, someone (who knows linux) has to fix the server start script to avoid these errors.

Hi Bagira, any idea why are we all getting these errors above when we run /etc/rc.d/samba restart ?
Because it is not supported in the latest ArchLinux distro, LOL.Smilie
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#199
Quote from Bagira View Post :
You should be able to see ALARM computer from your Windows machine, no need to go thru IP.


you should not run /etc/rc.d/samba restart.
After systemctl command Samba is already up and running.
So is there any command to confirm/check if Samba is already running or not?
And when we reboot the Pogo device, will Samba start automatically or do we always have to start it manually?
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#200
Quote from teetee1 View Post :
1. if the devices on your list can access (browse, read, and write) a windows share folder, you can make pogoplug+arch linux to share files to all those devices since windows share and samba share use the same network protocol (SMB [wikipedia.org]). exFAT is not the issue here since to the clients, the shared files are treated as network filesystem (SMB/CIFS) instead of local filesystem (ext2/3/4, ntfs, exFAT) so the OS vs. filesystem compatibility is not the issue here (as long as they can access the shared files, there is no filesystem problem except the character coding system).

2. Put all media files under a folder on one external drive and share that folder.

3. You don't have to install archlinux but IMO the pogoplug with its stock firmware priced for $18 isn't such a good deal.
Thanks for the clarifications - off I go !
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#201
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Because it is not supported in the latest ArchLinux distro, LOL.Smilie
Not cool man...lol
Even that "Daemon" thing in "/etc/rc.conf" is also not supported anymore. So this Samba article [archlinuxarm.org] needs to be updated with the working alternative in the "starting the server" section Smilie.
I spent almost 30 minutes in figuring out what's wrong with /etc/rc.conf and finally just skipped that part EEK!
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#202
Quote from pankajdarure View Post :
So is there any command to confirm/check if Samba is already running or not?
And when we reboot the Pogo device, will Samba start automatically or do we always have to start it manually?
We already talked about this.
We need to figure out how to edit start-up script to include Samba start-up and mounting of the USB drives.

As of running PMS on Pogo, I don't think it is going to work, not for me at least. PMS needs nice GUI so I am able to correct incorrect matches and maybe enter my own metadata to my titles and then it is supposed to be at least Core 2 Duo class machine so it will be able to do transcoding for the Android clients. I just don't see Pogo as capable of such tasks.

Perhaps some sort of powerful yet not power-hungry Linux machine would do instead of Windows. But not our beloved ArchLinux Pogo.
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#203
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ran that followed by /etc/rc.d/samba restart and still got the same errors
systemd/systemctl recently replaced rc.d(sysv) script for people to control (start/stop/restart/check status) the services on the system.

In other words, the two commands below do the same thing:

# systemctl start smbd nmbd
and
# rc.d start samba
// or /etc/rc.d/samba start

the difference is systemctl works on a fully updated arch linux (with kernel >3.xx) and you can't use rc.d anymore.

Once you run systemctl start smbd nmbd, check to see if samba is working:
# ps -A | grep smbd
// to make sure the program is running
# netstat -tupa | grep smbd
// to make sure the program is listening on the network instead of just unix sockets.
and if yes then it's ready to accept connection requests.
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#204
Quote from teetee1 View Post :
systemd/systemctl recently replaced rc.d(sysv) script for people to control (start/stop/restart/check status) the services on the system.

In other words, the two commands below do the same thing:

# systemctl start smbd nmbd
and
# rc.d start samba
// or /etc/rc.d/samba start

the difference is systemctl works on a fully updated arch linux (with kernel >3.xx) and you can't use rc.d anymore.

Once you run systemctl start smbd nmbd, check to see if samba is working:
# ps -A | grep smbd
// to make sure the program is running
# netstat -tupa | grep smbd
// to make sure the program is listening on the network instead of just unix sockets.
and if yes then it's ready to accept connection requests.
Hey teetee1,

You seem to be an expert.
Any words of wisdom about making Samba to automatically run on start-up and also automatically mount attached USB drives?
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#205
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We already talked about this.
We need to figure out how to edit start-up script to include Samba start-up and mounting of the USB drives.

As of running PMS on Pogo, I don't think it is going to work, not for me at least. PMS needs nice GUI so I am able to correct incorrect matches and maybe enter my own metadata to my titles and then it is supposed to be at least Core 2 Duo class machine so it will be able to do transcoding for the Android clients. I just don't see Pogo as capable of such tasks.

Perhaps some sort of powerful yet not power-hungry Linux machine would do instead of Windows. But not our beloved ArchLinux Pogo.
Ok, got it... so at least for now, No Roku streaming from Pogo... Frown
Either connect a Windows machine on LAN to keep PMS running or better yet, skip Roku and just connect a laptop to the TV (VGI or HDMI) by "extending monitor" and play movies in your fav media player directly from \\ALARM\xxx folder Smilie Smilie

BTW, by any chance do you know how to at least check if Samba service/server is running or not?
Edit: I see teetee already answered this Smilie
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#206
Quote from teetee1 View Post :
systemd/systemctl recently replaced rc.d(sysv) script for people to control (start/stop/restart/check status) the services on the system.

In other words, the two commands below do the same thing:

# systemctl start smbd nmbd
and
# rc.d start samba
// or /etc/rc.d/samba start

the difference is systemctl works on a fully updated arch linux (with kernel >3.xx) and you can't use rc.d anymore.

Once you run systemctl start smbd nmbd, check to see if samba is working:
# ps -A | grep smbd
// to make sure the program is running
# netstat -tupa | grep smbd
// to make sure the program is listening on the network instead of just unix sockets.
and if yes then it's ready to accept connection requests.
Cool buddy... Smilie Smilie
You rock too (like Bagira)... <wink>
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#207
Quote from pankajdarure View Post :
Ok, got it... so at least for now, No Roku streaming from Pogo... Frown
Either connect a Windows machine on LAN to keep PMS running or better yet, skip Roku and just connect a laptop to the TV (VGI or HDMI) by "extending monitor" and play movies in your fav media player directly from \\ALARM\xxx folder Smilie Smilie
But look, you don't have to have Windows machine attached to just one TV. Roku gives you a lot more than just streaming your local media to your screen. And your machine is a Plex server to anything in your possession, including your tablets and your Android phone and your other Windows machines. Yesterday I have streamed Blu Ray MKV from my PMS to my main room w/80" TV. Man, it was stunning experience.

Another point: have you seen Plex movie client? It is glorious, I am telling you. All the info about each movie + thumbnail. Much better than going thru the file system.
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#208
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Hey teetee1,

You seem to be an expert.
Any words of wisdom about making Samba to automatically run on start-up and also automatically mount attached USB drives?
Basically you can't. This issue was discussed in the earlier posts in this same thread:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5753232-Pogoplug-Multimedia-Sharing-Device-Model-B01-Pink-or-P21-Black-17-Free-Shipping-Ebay-Daily-Deal?v=1&p=56604828#post56604828

pogoplug doesn't have a BIOS to detect the USB devices that are connected at boot time for boot order designation. It's up to uboot (the boot loader for arch) to choose which drive will be the /dev/sda1 (or whatever the device assigned for / ) when pogoplug gets turned on. It can be the correct one but most likely it's not (otherwise we wouldn't have issues).

With the pogoplug models that come with an internal SATA port(P21, B01) there is a solution for activating the boot code to use the SATA device as the 1st device everytime but since those pogos are oxnas chip based, they are still using linux kernel 2.6.x and no systemd support. I am not saying systemd is much better than sysv/rc.d but in order to get the perfect boot everytime, you will have to find a way to get a SATA drive connected to the pogo (power and all), modify the code (archlinxu forum), and be ok with only 128MB ram for those pogo models.

I would rather just stick with the E02 model that has 3.x kernel and systemd support. And if I really need to reboot the server I will just have to live with unplugging all drives except for the system drive and inserting them back in afterwards.
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#209
Got it, thnx.
Yes, E02 seems to be the perfect device.
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#210
OK, so thanks to everyone's instructions, loaded ArchLinux, and Samba. Got the attached USB drive to Pogo to show up as ALARM under Network in Windows 7. Awsome!! I can see all my files.

Question -
(1) I am unable to pull up anything on 192.168.X.XXX on my browser under Windows or Android. The Message I get is - This webpage is not available - connection attempt to 192.168.X.XXX was rejected. The website may be down, or your network may not be properly configured.

(2) Also, How do I pull up the pogo on my Android devices?

Thank you all for your kindness to Linux Noobs.
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