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Pogoplug Classic Media Sharing Device (P21 Black or B01 Pink) EXPIRED

DJ3xclusive 71,452 December 28, 2012 at 08:01 AM in Computers (5) More eBay Deals
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Promoted 12-28-2012 at 04:48 PM View Original Post
Adorama via eBay has Pogoplug Classic Media Sharing Device (P21 Black or B01 Pink) for $17 with free shipping. Thanks DJ3xclusive

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Edited December 28, 2012 at 01:46 PM by widgit

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#211
Quote from jbcollins View Post :
OK, so thanks to everyone's instructions, loaded ArchLinux, and Samba. Got the attached USB drive to Pogo to show up as ALARM under Network in Windows 7. Awsome!! I can see all my files.

Question -
(1) I am unable to pull up anything on 192.168.X.XXX on my browser under Windows or Android. The Message I get is - This webpage is not available - connection attempt to 192.168.X.XXX was rejected. The website may be down, or your network may not be properly configured.

(2) Also, How do I pull up the pogo on my Android devices?

Thank you all for your kindness to Linux Noobs.
1} Why do you care? If you see ALARM and its USB drives, that all that matters.

2} using ES File Explorer on Android, go to LAN shares and do New/scan.
Presuming your Android is on the same network as your Pogo, you will see the server ALARM sooner or later Smilie

Hey, congrats on configuring ArmLinux and Samba!
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#212
Quote from teetee1 View Post :
Basically you can't.
Although I am not using the pogoplug for samba (yet), everytime someone says they can't have it auto-start because there is no way to tell it which drive is boot, I'm thinking, so make a small primary partition on every drive, install pogolinux on them all, and sync your working configs so no matter which drive it boots from, everything loads? You might need to write a script that identifies each drive and mounts them where you want them to be mounted at, but is it really an impossible task?

I only ask because possibly in the future I might want to do it, and if you work out the bugs first, then I don't have to... Wink
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#213
Quote from SlickFerret View Post :
Although I am not using the pogoplug for samba (yet), everytime someone says they can't have it auto-start because there is no way to tell it which drive is boot, I'm thinking, so make a small primary partition on every drive, install pogolinux on them all, and sync your working configs so no matter which drive it boots from, everything loads? You might need to write a script that identifies each drive and mounts them where you want them to be mounted at, but is it really an impossible task?

I only ask because possibly in the future I might want to do it, and if you work out the bugs first, then I don't have to... Wink
The idea sounds doable. The only potential issue is how good the u-boot loader handle the GPT drives if you have more than 0 storage drive that have to be partitioned with GPT in order to fully utilize the space. If all drives are less than 2TB and use MBR then it should work.

In order to mount all the intended partitions automatically at boot, you can simply put "defaults" or "auto" mount parameters in fstab for each partition by their UUIDs.
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#214
Quote from teetee1 View Post :
Basically you can't. This issue was discussed in the earlier posts in this same thread:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5753232-Pogoplug-Multimedia-Sharing-Device-Model-B01-Pink-or-P21-Black-17-Free-Shipping-Ebay-Daily-Deal?v=1&p=56604828#post56604828

pogoplug doesn't have a BIOS to detect the USB devices that are connected at boot time for boot order designation. It's up to uboot (the boot loader for arch) to choose which drive will be the /dev/sda1 (or whatever the device assigned for / ) when pogoplug gets turned on. It can be the correct one but most likely it's not (otherwise we wouldn't have issues).
Quick question: i plan to attach a usb 4-bay drive enclosure to the pogo. Generally on my mac the drives take about a 30-60 seconds to spin up. The flash drive with arch will k assume boot up muchfaster. In this case would the pogo be able to load properly and automount since initially the flash drive wikl be available much quicker while the usb enclosure boots up. Or will I have issues just by virtue of teo usb devices being connected.
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#215
Anybody try using nfs? Does it work? Instructions?
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#216
Thanks much, ES File Explorer worked! Appreciate the tips and pointers.


Quote from Bagira View Post :
1} Why do you care? If you see ALARM and its USB drives, that all that matters.

2} using ES File Explorer on Android, go to LAN shares and do New/scan.
Presuming your Android is on the same network as your Pogo, you will see the server ALARM sooner or later Smilie

Hey, congrats on configuring ArmLinux and Samba!
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#217
Control ArchLinux Pogo from any browser:

Install and configure Webmin for managing the device using any web browser
$ pacman -S webmin perl-net-ssleay
$ nano /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
- In "ALLOW" add "192.168.x.0" to grant access to only local IP addresses, replace "x" w/your actual number, aka 192.168.1.0
$ nano /etc/rc.conf
- Add "webmin" to DAEMONS
- From your web browser go to: "https://IP_address:10000"
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#218
Quote from Zank View Post :
Quick question: i plan to attach a usb 4-bay drive enclosure to the pogo. Generally on my mac the drives take about a 30-60 seconds to spin up. The flash drive with arch will k assume boot up muchfaster. In this case would the pogo be able to load properly and automount since initially the flash drive wikl be available much quicker while the usb enclosure boots up. Or will I have issues just by virtue of teo usb devices being connected.
You will have to try it. Chances are the reboot process (which is the whole point of getting the drives recognized in the correct order so you can remotely restart the unit) always involves spinning up the drives so the OS can unmount the drives cleanly before it shutdown. And there is simply not enough time before the unit boots for the drive to enter into standby mode so in practice all drives are "spun-up" when the unit boots up so you most likely get messed-up orders of drive labels.

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Anybody try using nfs? Does it work? Instructions?
The NFSv4 works well and the configuration is straight forward. Like any other arch wiki instructions just google "nfs arch".
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#219
Quote from Bagira View Post :
As of running PMS on Pogo, I don't think it is going to work, not for me at least. PMS needs nice GUI so I am able to correct incorrect matches and maybe enter my own metadata to my titles and then it is supposed to be at least Core 2 Duo class machine so it will be able to do transcoding for the Android clients. I just don't see Pogo as capable of such tasks.

Perhaps some sort of powerful yet not power-hungry Linux machine would do instead of Windows. But not our beloved ArchLinux Pogo.
Raspberry Pi is what you want.

Quote from teetee1 View Post :
pogoplug doesn't have a BIOS to detect the USB devices that are connected at boot time for boot order designation. It's up to uboot (the boot loader for arch) to choose which drive will be the /dev/sda1 (or whatever the device assigned for / ) when pogoplug gets turned on. It can be the correct one but most likely it's not (otherwise we wouldn't have issues).
Just use /etc/fstab to manually mount the drives, and mount by UUID via blkid. If that fails, just realize that the the usb ports are always queried in order. Plug your OS drive into the right port and it should work out fine.
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#220
Quote from crakarjax View Post :
Raspberry Pi is what you want.

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I thought of it, but 700Mhz CPU of Raspberry PI is not going to hold transcoding very well.
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#221
Quote from Bagira View Post :
I thought of it, but 700Mhz CPU of Raspberry PI is not going to hold transcoding very well.
Raspberry Pi has built-in hardware encoders/decoders!!!! (MPEG2, VC-1, H.264, others?) There is also a build of PS3 Media Server that runs on it.
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#222
Quote from crakarjax View Post :
Raspberry Pi has built-in hardware encoders/decoders!!!! (MPEG2, VC-1, H.264, others?) There is also a build of PS3 Media Server that runs on it.
I don't think Plex Media Server will take advantage of the hardware decoders, and Plex is what I want. PS3 Media Server does not cut it for me.
I might try it, for $35 ongoing price it is not a big deal, but I am almost positive that transcoding won't run well.

I have read couple of threads on this, and ppl are saying it CAN be done as long as all your videos are in h.264.
Once again, can be done as a proof of concept, nice demo to increase Rpi sales or something.
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#223
Quote from Bagira View Post :
I don't think Plex Media Server will take advantage of the hardware decoders, and Plex is what I want. PS3 Media Server does not cut it for me.
I might try it, for $35 ongoing price it is not a big deal, but I am almost positive that transcoding won't run well.

I have read couple of threads on this, and ppl are saying it CAN be done as long as all your videos are in h.264.
Once again, can be done as a proof of concept, nice demo to increase Rpi sales or something.
Yeah, it looks like Plex doesn't support it, probably because it is not open source and thus is at the whim of the developers to add support. RPi is a pretty popular platform though, it wouldn't surprise me if they could be talked into giving it a shot.
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#224
Quote from Bagira View Post :
I don't think Plex Media Server will take advantage of the hardware decoders, and Plex is what I want. PS3 Media Server does not cut it for me.
I might try it, for $35 ongoing price it is not a big deal, but I am almost positive that transcoding won't run well.

I have read couple of threads on this, and ppl are saying it CAN be done as long as all your videos are in h.264.
Once again, can be done as a proof of concept, nice demo to increase Rpi sales or something.
Quote from crakarjax View Post :
Yeah, it looks like Plex doesn't support it, probably because it is not open source and thus is at the whim of the developers to add support. RPi is a pretty popular platform though, it wouldn't surprise me if they could be talked into giving it a shot.
All in all, even though it was a nice "learning curve" and some "satisfaction" to get this ARM+Samba running... I am getting a feeling that, by spending a few bucks more, I would have got a "maintenance free" device... Frown.
E.g. i don't mind leaving my PogoPlug running 24x7 but I definitely don't want to keep my external HDDs running all the time. I want to power those on ONLY when I am going to copy/stream something from them.
So in my case, every time I power on my external HDDs, I have to start my PC, open my Putty session and run the "mount..." commands for all these HDDs Frown.
And even after all this pain, I still can't run my PMS so I have to keep another machine running only for PMS while I am streaming a movie to my Roku... Frown.
On another note, if I prepare myself to keep a PC running for PMS, why do I even need PogoPlug?, I can just attach all these HDDs to my PC through USB and configure PMS to use these instead of LAN/IP based storage...!!!
I think there must a cheap device (like Raspberry pi or something like that) which will not only allow me to access these HDDs over LAN but also support PMS on it (without running any commands for starting PMS or device-mounting after each reboot).
Anyway, $18 is not a HUGE loss or something so I don't think it's worth going through the return hassles.
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#225
Quote from pankajdarure View Post :
All in all, even though it was a nice "learning curve" and some "satisfaction" to get this ARM+Samba running... I am getting a feeling that, by spending a few bucks more, I would have got a "maintenance free" device... Frown.
E.g. i don't mind leaving my PogoPlug running 24x7 but I definitely don't want to keep my external HDDs running all the time. I want to power those on ONLY when I am going to copy/stream something from them.
So in my case, every time I power on my external HDDs, I have to start my PC, open my Putty session and run the "mount..." commands for all these HDDs Frown.
And even after all this pain, I still can't run my PMS so I have to keep another machine running only for PMS while I am streaming a movie to my Roku... Frown.
On another note, if I prepare myself to keep a PC running for PMS, why do I even need PogoPlug?, I can just attach all these HDDs to my PC through USB and configure PMS to use these instead of LAN/IP based storage...!!!
I think there must a cheap device (like Raspberry pi or something like that) which will not only allow me to access these HDDs over LAN but also support PMS on it (without running any commands for starting PMS or device-mounting after each reboot).
Anyway, $18 is not a HUGE loss or something so I don't think it's worth going through the return hassles.
I still havent gotten around to putting arch on my pogo as i wnted to fully research before i did. Disconcerting to hear you have to mount yhe hd everytime. From what ive been reading isnt there an automount command somewhere? Did you try t and it didnt work, or did i read wrong?

Secondly, i thought there IS a pms utility available for pogo (or rather for arch). Again did it not work?
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