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Pogoplug Classic Media Sharing Device (P21 Black or B01 Pink) EXPIRED

DJ3xclusive 71,448 December 28, 2012 at 08:01 AM in Computers (5) More eBay Deals
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Adorama via eBay has Pogoplug Classic Media Sharing Device (P21 Black or B01 Pink) for $17 with free shipping. Thanks DJ3xclusive

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Edited December 28, 2012 at 01:46 PM by widgit

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#331
Quote from newmark View Post :
That is amazing! Is that wireless speeds ? What internet speeds are you getting? Anyone faced issues with speed ?.. Wondering where i should start looking to resolve this issue.
That is wired through a router, but shows that the device and drive themselves are capable of such speeds. If you get faster speeds wired then it is your wireless connection that is limiting your speed.


Quote from johny3 View Post :
hi all
I ended up picking up a buffalo drivestatin axis from frys on the deal the other day. My pogo seems to not want to detect this drive. I will figure that detail out. <---- edit: solved

My biggest question is:
I am mostly looking to use my pogo for file access in the home. I was going to install the arm etc on the device but got a little lost (I am pretty tech savvy but not enough I guess. My biggest question is this: what typical uses do you now have after hacking the device and installing your software of choice on it? Now to figure out why it is not detecting my drivestation...
thanks
I use mine along with a wireless router in my garage to act as an off-site backup location. I have rsync make an incremental backup every day and keep the last 60 days worth of data (~750Gb total backup size). It's like a poor man's apple time machine.
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That is amazing! Is that wireless speeds ? What internet speeds are you getting? Anyone faced issues with speed ?.. Wondering where i should start looking to resolve this issue.

ive set up samba to share files and looking at activity monitor on my mac i see speed of 1.5MB/sec transferring a 10gb file. my mac says that would take 2 hrs to transfer. The pogoplug is connected directly to the main router.

this is with a wireless g network with my mac connected to a repeater. i wish i could speed this up even just 20% and id be able to stream 1080p content.

I'm not sure if this speed is an issue with pogoplug though. Back in the day I had a simple sharing system set up where I had a windows xp desktop that I'd plugged in a usb drive into and just went into properties and shared out the file to my mac mini htpc. In that case I was also using wireless g, minus the repeater in the middle, and i remember it would take about 2 hrs for a 10 gb file and wouldnt be able to stream 1080p content.

if someones got tips on squeezing out just a bit more from this that would be great. I've set up NFS on my pogoplug but getting it up and running is proving difficult on my mac so giving up on that.
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#333
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ive set up samba to share files and looking at activity monitor on my mac i see speed of 1.5MB/sec transferring a 10gb file. my mac says that would take 2 hrs to transfer. The pogoplug is connected directly to the main router.

this is with a wireless g network with my mac connected to a repeater. i wish i could speed this up even just 20% and id be able to stream 1080p content.

I'm not sure if this speed is an issue with pogoplug though. Back in the day I had a simple sharing system set up where I had a windows xp desktop that I'd plugged in a usb drive into and just went into properties and shared out the file to my mac mini htpc. In that case I was also using wireless g, minus the repeater in the middle, and i remember it would take about 2 hrs for a 10 gb file and wouldnt be able to stream 1080p content.

if someones got tips on squeezing out just a bit more from this that would be great. I've set up NFS on my pogoplug but getting it up and running is proving difficult on my mac so giving up on that.
Looks like a problem with the network for me too. Between computers too the copy speed is low. I have a gigabit router not sure what is the issue and need to troubleshoot.
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#334
I'm glad these can be reconfigured using Linux but I know nothing on how to do this and am afraid I'm too old to learn.

Can't these be used with the stock firmware, 4 drives plugged into it, plug pogoplug into your router, and access these drives throughout your network with your computer or a WDTV Live?
I don't need to see my files anywhere but throughout my home.
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I'm glad these can be reconfigured using Linux but I know nothing on how to do this and am afraid I'm too old to learn.

Can't these be used with the stock firmware, 4 drives plugged into it, plug pogoplug into your router, and access these drives throughout your network with your computer or a WDTV Live?
I don't need to see my files anywhere but throughout my home.
I don't think these can be used in any way other than a cloud storage device when stock... they don't have built in samba sharing or anything, after all.



For those of you with RO filesystems on reboot that followed my instructions on page 6 I have updated them to add a rw flag to the boot params, forcing the drive to be rw without requiring an fstab entry: http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=56909308&postcount=230
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#336
[QUOTE=crakarjax;57155108]I don't think these can be used in any way other than a cloud storage device when stock... they don't have built in samba sharing or anything, after all.

Thanks for confirming crakarjax Frown
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#337
Quote from pongoboy View Post :
I'm glad these can be reconfigured using Linux but I know nothing on how to do this and am afraid I'm too old to learn.

Can't these be used with the stock firmware, 4 drives plugged into it, plug pogoplug into your router, and access these drives throughout your network with your computer or a WDTV Live?
I don't need to see my files anywhere but throughout my home.
Yes you can use it with stock software for local networkinh. Download the pogoplug software. Boot up your pogoplug. Plug in your drives into the usb port. As long as the pogoplug software is running you will see the connected drives on the network. Iffor some reason you dont see them theres an optiom to refresh connecteddrives.

Install thr software on each computer you want access on.

Also when connectedgo into the online pogoplug interface, settings, media and for each drive disable the pre caching of files options.

Id suggest you connect one drive at a time initially not all together
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#338
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Yes you can use it with stock software for local networkinh. Download the pogoplug software. Boot up your pogoplug. Plug in your drives into the usb port. As long as the pogoplug software is running you will see the connected drives on the network. Iffor some reason you dont see them theres an optiom to refresh connecteddrives.

Install thr software on each computer you want access on.

Also when connectedgo into the online pogoplug interface, settings, media and for each drive disable the pre caching of files options.

Id suggest you connect one drive at a time initially not all together
Learn something new every day! Does the share show up on a Linux box?
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#339
Quote from Zank View Post :
Yes you can use it with stock software for local networkinh. Download the pogoplug software. Boot up your pogoplug. Plug in your drives into the usb port. As long as the pogoplug software is running you will see the connected drives on the network. Iffor some reason you dont see them theres an optiom to refresh connecteddrives.

Install thr software on each computer you want access on.

Also when connectedgo into the online pogoplug interface, settings, media and for each drive disable the pre caching of files options.

Id suggest you connect one drive at a time initially not all together
Thanks Zank,
This has worked on all computers in my network that I have intalled the pogo software!

My WDTV Live units recognize my computers, the media contained in the computers harddrive but do not see the pogo (P) drive.
I do see the "Team" folder from the pogo, but the folder does not contain the 2 hardrives currently plugged in.

Do you think I would need an adjustment to my windows network?

Thanks in advance!
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#340
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Learn something new every day! Does the share show up on a Linux box?
i'd figure it does. on my windows and mac machines it shows up seamlessly. seemless being a relative term ofcourse...it shows up...but i got spinning beachballs a bit and slowness in my os sometimes i didnt have before. also sometimes if you power down unexpectedly it takes some messing around to get external stuff up and running. But for the average person buying the pogoplug its still great i think in terms of local sharing.

also in terms of speed it really i think was the same as i was getting after arch linux (atleast over wifi...wifi being the bottleneck).
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#341
Quote from pongoboy View Post :
Thanks Zank,
This has worked on all computers in my network that I have intalled the pogo software!

My WDTV Live units recognize my computers, the media contained in the computers harddrive but do not see the pogo (P) drive.
I do see the "Team" folder from the pogo, but the folder does not contain the 2 hardrives currently plugged in.

Do you think I would need an adjustment to my windows network?

Thanks in advance!
the wdtv/3rd party non pogoplug software supported platforms i think will have issues getting set up (if not impossible). The nice thing was the pogo at least on my mac set up the drives as if they were directly attached to my computer. I didnt try but maybe i could have shared out those drives? same would apply to windows. you might be abe to share out the drive.

BUT...i did google around a little while back and one of the things i read was that when something specifies "P" as a drive, that cannot be shared out. its seems like the letter P for drives is specifically reserved for non sharable volumes. I know i read this in the context of exactly your case...someone trying to get this to work on wdtv. if you google "pogoplug stream wdtv" or something laong these lines i know you'll find what i read...but i'm not sure it will definitely get you up and running on your wdtv so dont hold your breath. your best bed might be to install arch linux. I was afraid of installing it but with the help of the forum members here i got it up and running. don't do anything else...just install archlinux and samba and stop there.
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#342
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Looks like a problem with the network for me too. Between computers too the copy speed is low. I have a gigabit router not sure what is the issue and need to troubleshoot.
The filesystem on the external drive you use for data storage has something to do with the speed too. If you have ntfs on the drive and arch has to use fuse or non-native code / module to handle the filesystem it adds up some overhead. You can test this by starting a big file transfer (say more than 1GB single file) between pogo system drive and the external drive and measure the actual transfer speed by
# time cp /<path to file> /<somewhere on the system drive>

and yes this local file transfer is limited by USB throughput and the system overhead.

If you have a spare drive, you can format the drive into ext3, copy the same file from the system drive to that spare drive (connected to the pogo unit through USB port obviously) and see if the difference of the filesystem affect the transfer speeds.

If you have a gigabit router and the file transfer is done from a wired machine to another wired machine, then the possible reasons for slow transfer speed could be (besides the filesystem):

1. samba and USB overhead somehow cause system under heavy load
- post smb.conf settings maybe there are some parameters used from somehwhere are not the optimal ones for your environment
- monitor the system and I/O load with some basic linux commands (post the results) during the file transfer process:
# uptime
# iostat http://www.pythian.com/blog/basic...-on-linux/
# top
# iotop http://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware...o-monitor/

any one of those will give a clue on if the system is under heavy load at the time the tool is running.

2. the computer that's receiving the file may have the speed limit due to various reasons (heavyload on the system, overload NIC, incorrect NIC settings ex. MTU etc)

3. routers setting - you can simply use a patch cable to connect the pogo and the computer and skip the router to see if the file transfer speed has any improvement - just make sure both the computer and the pogo have the same TCP/IP info)

4. The ethernet cable. If the problem is not software or the settings from both end and the switch/router, then it's the media between them.

If you are transferring 1024 files with each having 1MB in size (total 1GB), it will be much slower than transferring one single 1GB file because of the system overhead (by design).
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#343
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ive set up samba to share files and looking at activity monitor on my mac i see speed of 1.5MB/sec transferring a 10gb file. my mac says that would take 2 hrs to transfer. The pogoplug is connected directly to the main router.

this is with a wireless g network with my mac connected to a repeater. i wish i could speed this up even just 20% and id be able to stream 1080p content.

I'm not sure if this speed is an issue with pogoplug though. Back in the day I had a simple sharing system set up where I had a windows xp desktop that I'd plugged in a usb drive into and just went into properties and shared out the file to my mac mini htpc. In that case I was also using wireless g, minus the repeater in the middle, and i remember it would take about 2 hrs for a 10 gb file and wouldnt be able to stream 1080p content.
See if you can figure out where the bottleneck is (network/system/software/hardware) by monitoring mentioned in my above post.

Here is my speed test
Setup: pogo E02, samba, external USB drive with ext3 fs, thinkpad x60 tablet/laptop (6 yr old) w/ gigabit switch between them and wired: avg. 26MB/sec transfer speed (file from the drive on pogo to the laptop)

wireless: the setup is the same as above except the gigabit switch(which pogo is connected to) is connected to a linksys WRT54GL router w/ built-in 4-port 10/100mbps switch and the file is transferred through the switch/router and to the laptop with wireless g connection: avg. speed is 6MB/sec(again the file goes from the pogo to the laptop). The laptop still can't play 1080p video because its processor (L2400) is simply not fast enough.


Quote from Zank View Post :
if someones got tips on squeezing out just a bit more from this that would be great. I've set up NFS on my pogoplug but getting it up and running is proving difficult on my mac so giving up on that.
This instruction looks pretty straight forward. Actually it looks exactly like the linux NFS client setup I had in my post(no surprising there since any mac os after leopard is based on BSD):
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/appl...-tutorial/
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Quote from teetee1 View Post :
The filesystem on the external drive you use for data storage has something to do with the speed too. If you have ntfs on the drive and arch has to use fuse or non-native code / module to handle the filesystem it adds up some overhead. You can test this by starting a big file transfer (say more than 1GB single file) between pogo system drive and the external drive and measure the actual transfer speed by
# time cp / /

and yes this local file transfer is limited by USB throughput and the system overhead.

If you have a spare drive, you can format the drive into ext3, copy the same file from the system drive to that spare drive (connected to the pogo unit through USB port obviously) and see if the difference of the filesystem affect the transfer speeds.

If you have a gigabit router and the file transfer is done from a wired machine to another wired machine, then the possible reasons for slow transfer speed could be (besides the filesystem):

1. samba and USB overhead somehow cause system under heavy load
- post smb.conf settings maybe there are some parameters used from somehwhere are not the optimal ones for your environment
- monitor the system and I/O load with some basic linux commands (post the results) during the file transfer process:
# uptime
# iostat http://www.pythian.com/blog/basic...-on-linux/
# top
# iotop http://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware...o-monitor/

any one of those will give a clue on if the system is under heavy load at the time the tool is running.

2. the computer that's receiving the file may have the speed limit due to various reasons (heavyload on the system, overload NIC, incorrect NIC settings ex. MTU etc)

3. routers setting - you can simply use a patch cable to connect the pogo and the computer and skip the router to see if the file transfer speed has any improvement - just make sure both the computer and the pogo have the same TCP/IP info)

4. The ethernet cable. If the problem is not software or the settings from both end and the switch/router, then it's the media between them.

If you are transferring 1024 files with each having 1MB in size (total 1GB), it will be much slower than transferring one single 1GB file because of the system overhead (by design).
Many thanks, shall try these out.
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#345
treid this already...not working in 10.8 mountain lion since apple has removed the mount nf option. also thers some other changes leading people to have issues, so far i've tried about 4-5 different sets of instructions but nothing working. What i did for now was run a 80 ft cable to one of my media centres and after 2 days of crimping wires and installing wall sockets etc i've managed to get everything up and running. On average my transfer rate is 22 minutes for a 10 gb file. Not bas considering a direct usb connection took about 8-9 minutes for same file. What speed does this translate to? How do i check real time statistics from my pogo?

Also anyone got sabnzbd instructions? I dont need couch potato or sickbeard, just sab. Any instructions ive found are outdated and dont work since there have been some changes to arch recently apparently. also mostly they pertain to people setting up sab on their linux desktops, nota headless system like ours. if anyone has instructions please let me know (i already tried pacman sabnzbd and then systemctl start sabnzbd but no luck. doing systemctl status sabnzbd says cannot create log file service failed and thus i cant use it.


Quote from teetee1 View Post :

This instruction looks pretty straight forward. Actually it looks exactly like the linux NFS client setup I had in my post(no surprising there since any mac os after leopard is based on BSD):
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/appl...-tutorial/
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