Ohio firearms group providing free training for teachers and staff

Our state doesn't allow guns in libraries, schools, etc. except by law enforcement. If they (the teachers and staff) receive law enforcement training, could they be allowed to carry or have access to weapons at school? Is it an overreaction from a tragic event? Or is this the future?

Funny that the fact that the bulk of NRA programs are geared toward firearm safety is largely neglected by the MSM, among others.

Funny that the fact that the bulk of NRA programs are geared toward firearm safety is largely neglected by the MSM, among others.

For many years up until this very day, the NRA has been demonized by the MSM and other sources as being "evil".

Most teachers that I know believe this to be absolutely true and are very vocal about that.

We have allowed our society to teach our children that guns are bad, only bad people have guns, the NRA is "evil", and then the only exposure kids get regarding the use of guns are from the glorified extreme graphic violence of video games, movies and TV.

Our society is currently reaping what they have sown.

If politicians want to restrict freedom of the 2nd amendment by banning guns, magazines, etc., how about really making a real difference and restricting some things supposedly protected by the 1st amendment like the glorified extreme graphic violence of video games, movies and TV. The left is extremely enthusiastic about the former, but will have a conniption fit over the latter.

Meanwhile, the insanity continues.....

You are wrong to go after violent movies and video games. There is no evidence that they lead to violent crime.

You are wrong to go after violent movies and video games. There is no evidence that they lead to violent crime. Our violent crime and murder rates are at an ALL TIME LOW. Where we still have problems are with gangs and large urban centers.

These events, which we call mass murder, mass homicide, or spree killings, seem to have increased in the last half century. Another term "going postal" has come to mean going on a killing rampage because of several incidents by present or past employees of the U.S. Postal Service. "Theorists believe that a breakdown in social controls during the past three or four decades has undermined the inhibitions that ordinarily keep a person from acting on the impulse to kill"

Well, in the same way, I want you to ask yourself, what causes violent crime, or causes people to kill. Well, poverty, gangs, drugs, availability of guns, child abuse, family breakdown—these are all important factors. But what we know is, that if you take the existing factors, and add the media violence—television, movie, and especially now the video-game violence—the result is an explosion of violent crime in any nation in which it takes place.

In America, since 1957, per-capita violent crime has gone up approximately six- to sevenfold. Now, the first thing you have to realize is, you have to ignore the murder rate, because medical technology saves more lives every year. What you have to do, is you have to look at the aggravated assault rate, the rate at which Americans are trying to kill one another off. And that has gone up between six- and sevenfold—per capita, now, we're allowing for population growth in all these data.

Violence and Television

Now, here's an interesting phenomenon—and we're going to come back to it over and over again. Television was placed in every village in India in the late 1960s and the early '70s. Fifteen years later, the murder rate doubled in India. Anywhere we saw television appear, around the world, Western television—you see, in India, their favorite show was [a police thriller] "Starsky and Hutch," and other such things. Anywhere that American violent media appear, 15 years later, the murder rate has at least doubled.

Now, when we start thinking of the impact of the violent video games, and the toxic material that's coming over the Internet, when we think about that 15-year delay, you need to ask yourself very, very carefully, what the world is going to look like 15 years from now.

Well, as we said, we saw India, with the doubling of the murder rate in that vast nation, as the direct result of television. We saw Brazil and Mexico had an explosion of violent crime in the last 10 or 15 years. And Japan. Japan is a nation with a homogeneous society, an intact family structure, universal employment, draconian gun laws, an island nation. And in 1997 alone, we saw a 30% increase in juvenile violence in Japan. So, again, what we're looking at is a worldwide phenomenon, in which any nation which feeds death and horror and destruction to their children, pays a tragic price.

Now, a lot of people think that if we just outlaw guns, it'll go away. And that's like saying, if we outlaw drugs, the drug problem will go away. If we continue to glamorize drugs—and every night the children are shown all of their action heroes shooting up drugs, and smoking marijuana—why, we know that it would be virtually impossible to prevent the demand for drugs, which will be met.

In the same way, around the world, we're finding that it's virtually impossible in a free society, to control the flow of guns, if there's this demand for guns. I had a BBC crew in my home, here in Arkansas, just a couple of months ago, telling me about the explosion of guns that's coming into England. You can't control all the drugs, and you can't control all the guns, and the guns are worth more, pound for pound, than heroin is. And people are buying the guns, and cases of automatic weapons are coming into England, and the city of Manchester is now referred to as Gun-chester.

You see, the point is, that we cannot permit the mass media to continue to glamorize violence and death and horror, and then think that nobody's going to want the guns, and for some reason, they're all going to go away if we pass a magic law.

Funny that the fact that the bulk of NRA programs are geared toward firearm safety is largely neglected by the MSM, among others.

Please read the information in the following links with an open mind.

http://www.drtomoconnor.com/4050/4050lect07.htm



A breakdown in social controls? Hmmm..... When was prayer in schools outlawed? How many parents take their kids to church nowadays? How is decency, morality, respect for life and property taught to kids nowadays? When did divorce become commonplace and not frowned upon socially? What is the increase of kids being raised by single parents (no father in the home)? What has changed in the last half century to break down social controls?

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/...print.html


Please read the entire articles at the above links, especially the last one.

If you can explain what has changed in the last 20 years that is the cause for the increase in violence in our society other than the increase in extreme graphic violence in movies, TV and video games, then please do so, I'm all ears.....

Over the thirty-year time frame, an average of about 20 mass murders have occurred annually in the United States with an average death toll of about 100 per year.

Finally, your argument would be more convincing in the 80's (perhaps), but ever since the release of realistic violent video games the aggravated assault and murder rate has been dropping like a rock.

If you can explain what has changed in the last 20 years that is the cause for the increase in violence in our society

They are wrong. Mass murders have not increased statistically in the last 20 or any other number of years. Even though they "seem" to have increased. As is often the case, the general perception of things may not line up with reality. A perceived increase in mass killings is a mass delusion.

http://news.yahoo.com/no-rise-mas...00637.html

And

http://boston.com/community/blogs...tings.html



Notably the population has increased, but the rarity of these events prevents any obvious trend from showing up.

Also, the advent of TV in most locations is associated with the advent of high population cities, the location of the majority of crime anywhere (with double the crime rate of rural areas on average).

Finally, your argument would be more convincing in the 80's (perhaps), but ever since the release of realistic violent video games the aggravated assault and murder rate has been dropping like a rock.

I ask you again: What's changed between then and now?