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TP-LINK TL-WDR3600 N600 Wireless N Dual Band Gigabit Router w/ 2x USB Ports EXPIRED

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Promoted 01-15-2013 by yuugotserved at 02:56 PM View Original Post
Update: Back in stock

Newegg.com has TP-LINK TL-WDR3600 N600 Wireless N Dual Band Gigabit Router w/ 2x USB Ports for $68.99 - $10 w/ promo code EMCNJJF83 - $20 rebate = $38.99 with free shipping. Thanks Selma

Price Research: Our research indicates that this TP-LINK TL-WDR3600 N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router w/ 2x USB Ports is $30 lower (43% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $69. - brisar
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TP-LINK TL-WDR3600 N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...704144-L0G
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EMCNJJF83
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Last Edited by brbubba January 20, 2013 at 04:07 PM
Back in stock as of 1/16/2012 at 1:30 pm PST.

OOS again 1/13/2013 5:51 PM CST

Back in stock as of 1/13/2012 at 3:30pm PST. Ordered 3 for work, discount stacked on all 3.

OOS again 1/12/2013 9:26 PM PST

Back in stock. Able to place an order for one 1/12/2013 8:18:39 PM PST

OOS, 1/12 4PM PST Please update if availability changes!

This router is the cheapest router to get OpenWRT's newest branch, Attitude adjustment which implements CoDEL a new parameterless bufferbloat solution.

Bufferbloat = latency lag when network approaches full usage.

Example: VoIP, VidChat, gaming, latency sensitive apps start stuttering once that other dude in your house starts his NetFlix streaming. You cry and stop doing what you were doing until he's done. OR you can buy this and setup codel and be happy. ^^

How to? My post is on page 3
I personally just set it up this month and it's AWESOME. The only bad thing is that Cox throttles us to whatever bandwidth they like in the evenings. Meaning I have to manually adjust the QoS speed limits for it to function.

Installing OpenWRT isn't necessarily easy but it's straightforward. If you've installed dd-wrt or Tomato, I have confidence in you that you can install OpenWRT Wink
If you know someone who would probably struggle putting dd-wrt/tomato on a router... don't have them install this. They might mess it up.

Got mine and got OpenWRT installed, so far so good....

Here's what I did (Disclaimer, if you are technically challenged I do not suggest doing this or find the beta builds of DDWRT or Gargoyle):

Original link stopped working here's a new link, if it no longer works see below.
http://downloads.openwrt.org/atti...actory.bin

If that still doesn't work here's the path from the openwrt downloads page.
Attitude adjustment...
12.09-rc1...
Ar71xx...
Generic...
Openwrt-ar71xx-generic-tl-wdr3600-v1-squashfs-factory.bin

1.) Connect an ethernet cable to the LAN side of the router, navigate to 192.168.1.1 (It may be 192.168.0.1). Username is "admin" password is "admin".
2.) Rename your OpenWRT image to "factory.bin". Navigate to the firmware upgrade page and update the firmware with your OpenWRT image.
3.) Once upgrade is done, manually set your computer's IP to 192.168.1.X (whatever you want on 1.X subnet).
4.) Use Putty or some other program to telnet into 192.168.1.1. Type "passwd" at command prompt and set a root password. Type "exit" and get out of the telnet session.
5.) Reopen Putty and do an SSH session to the same IP, login as root with your new password. Type "opkg update" and return. Type "opkg install luci" and return. To enable Luci to start on boot, type "/etc/init.d/uhttpd enable" and return and then type "/etc/init.d/uhttpd start" and return. I would also install the Luci qos module, type "opkg install luci-app-qos" and return.
6.) You can now login to Luci via an HTTP interface at 192.168.1.1. Good luck with the rest, just make sure you enable your wifi interfaces and configure them.
7.) Optionally, you may change to a more user friendly interface by issuing these commands line by line:
Code:
cd /tmp
wget http://nut-bolt.nl/files/luci-theme-bootstrap_1-1_all.ipk
opkg install luci-theme-bootstrap_1-1_all.ipk
To activate theme go to: System ---> Language and Style ---> Design ---> Bootstrap Smilie
-Aaron007
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As a side note my stupid MBA has no ethernet and my desktop is a floor away from my cable modem. So in order to do the package updates and install I had to enable the WiFi. Typing in "uci set wireless.@wifi-device[0].disabled=0; uci commit wireless; wifi" allows one of the interfaces to enable with OpenWRT as the ssid, open network. I could at least connect wirelessly from my laptop and ssh in that route and still have it connected to my cable modem for updates.

If you want the simple method and are ok with a limited option interface then download the gargoyle image here http://www.gargoyle-router.com/do...actory.bin and do the upgrade with that. It already has the GUI installed and running so you can go directly to 192.168.1.1. NOTE: Gargoyle does not have all the options that LuCi does, it was designed this way.

NOTE: It has been widely reported that LuCi is already installed and running after the install of OpenWRT. After you do the initial upgrade try navigating to 192.168.1.1 to see if the LuCI interface is up and running. If it is not then you should run through the steps listed above.

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Quote from roror View Post :
I briefly experimented with Gargoyle on WDR4300. The interface is not as nice as the dd-wrt IMO. Unsure about performance compared to the latest stock firmware, which is very good. The dd-wrt support for these is still very experimental. Reverting back from alternate firmwares to stock is tricky. You have to use a modified stock firmware. Otherwise you'll brick it.
Oh, I guess that's fair to say. The interface might be less easy to navigate.

Most of the complaints I heard before were about features like QoS and CoDel, which was just plain wrong since OpenWRT had more complete support of CoDel.
And I've found OpenWRT development is more organized and actively updated than DD-WRT.
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Might jump on this and use an E2000 as a bridge... i hate not having simultaneous dual band.
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How is the speed on this for wireless? I want to get one but the Amazon and Newegg reviews scare me. There are a lot of 1 or 2 stars saying the router doesn't work.

I have a WRT54G w/ DD-WRT that has been rock solid but need N speeds to try and speed up video files.

How is the range of the 5GHZ band?

Does DD-WRT decrease the speed of this router?

Was also looking at the Asus AC router but that also has bad reviews on Newegg.
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Can anyone comment on the range of this router? I have a dual band simultaneous router that is known for SH&T RANGE and it's even worse in my older (lath and plaster) home.

Cisco E4100 BLOWS BIG TIME!
If you really want good range, you'll have to get one of those pricier APs with high ~20+db and/or higher amps like the Ubiquiti APs.
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Can anyone comment on the range of this router? I have a dual band simultaneous router that is known for SH&T RANGE and it's even worse in my older (lath and plaster) home.

Cisco E4100 BLOWS BIG TIME!

Have in cart ready to pull trigger....would love to know the answer to this question. It's the only thing I'm concerned about....I don't care about tomato's etc...Stick Out Tongue
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For people wanting dual-band speeds reaching the theoretical maxes, you're going to be disappointed no matter what router you get. All the standards are still up in the air, causing results to vary.
The only way you will get the actual theoretical max that makes full use of all antennas is to buy similar chipset from same company wireless adapters and routers.

The process by which dual-band pairs is still not fully standardized, so different models and companies use different algorithms which end up even hurting speeds. You'll see complaints about the WDR4300 because of this.

Note: This does not explain the issues people are having with the WDR3600 or when not using wireless. I'm not sure why this is the case, since this unit has CPU/RAM much higher than comparably priced models.
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Save your money -- this N600 is slow as hell. I have a Linksys WRT310N-V1 that I was going to replace because it doesn't work in N mode any more. For your Internet connection, you should expect much slower transfer rates, and local transfers are also quite poor. On 40MHz and 5GHz 802.11n band, it was barely able to keep a 150-160Mbps connection rate, and the 5GHz signal is so poor it barely works across 1 floor with hollow walls. Another oddity is that the feet on the router doesn't come off, so you have to stand it upright like a book, as opposed to laying flat like the majority of other hardware allows you to do.

I returned it the next day.



The router sucks -- it's ridiculously slow.
Can you explain a little more? I'm curious as well.

Did you buy the WDR4300 or WDR3600?
What N adapter are you using (chipset or model is fine)?
Did you try using only 2.4ghz band?
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Quote from yazyazoo View Post :
How is the speed on this for wireless? I want to get one but the Amazon and Newegg reviews scare me. There are a lot of 1 or 2 stars saying the router doesn't work.

I have a WRT54G w/ DD-WRT that has been rock solid but need N speeds to try and speed up video files.

How is the range of the 5GHZ band?

Does DD-WRT decrease the speed of this router?

Was also looking at the Asus AC router but that also has bad reviews on Newegg.
If you put an open source firmware on this bad boy its worth every penny... the people complaining about the router probably don't have a clue about it.
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1. The speed is like shit -- I went from 1.7MB/s on my WRT310N-V1 using 802.11g to 1.2MB/s on this, using 802.1n on both 20MHz and 40MHz frequency and both 2.4 and 5GHz bands.

The range of the 5GHz is strong to about 3 feet, on the other side of the room, it's at 60%. On the other side of the house, you can either not connect or you get 10%. My cell phone is a Samsung Galaxy S2, and using it as a wifi router on 802.11n, I get better range than this router. I recommend you save your money because this router SUCKS.

EDIT: forgot to mention that there have been several reports of DDWRT taxing the router too much to the point that it overheats, so some people have been coping by putting fans on the router, or doing custom heatsink/fan installation.
Over at DD-WRT, there are a lot of positive reviews of this router (with the custom firmware of course). No mention of installing fans or anything lol. Where did you read that?

EDIT: For those reading this, the quoted post above was a mistake - those issues DO NOT occur with this router!
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What is the performance difference between 6x internal antennas and 2x external antennas? My environment is an apartment complex with much wireless congestion. I am hoping to be able to stream HD TV ~ 20 Mbps locally.

I am looking at the Cisco Linksys EA3500 [1] and this one. Any thoughts on which I should choose?

[1] http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=56614084
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Over at DD-WRT, there are a lot of positive reviews of this router (with the custom firmware of course). No mention of installing fans or anything lol. Where did you read that?
Just want to note same with OpenWRT users even from back in the first SD FP deal when it was relatively new.

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What is the performance difference between 6x internal antennas and 2x external antennas? My environment is an apartment complex with much wireless congestion. I am hoping to be able to stream HD TV ~ 20 Mbps locally.

I am looking at the Cisco Linksys EA3500 [1] and this one. Any thoughts on which I should choose?

[1] http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=56614084
The differing chipsets will probably not allow you to make full use of that. And only the WDR4300 has six antennas. This one's 5Ghz antenna only has 2x (so technically 5x). I made a post a while back where I found a bunch of wireless adapters with similar generation chipsets and asked people to try it out.

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I forgot to add. The extra antenna on the WDR4300 will help a bit if you have a lot of 5Ghz N devices. But less than a few devices it may end up hurting performance rather than helping.

Oh, you only said 20Mbps. Either router will suit you fine.

# of antennas will not really help your range. 5Ghz has less range than 2.4Ghz.
If you need strong range you will need to look into an access point with 20db or higher, or an adapter with higher amps.
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Over at DD-WRT, there are a lot of positive reviews of this router (with the custom firmware of course). No mention of installing fans or anything lol. Where did you read that?
I made a mistake and commented on the wrong router. Please disregard my previous comments. I have no experience with this particular router, nor could I form an opinion base on a lack thereof.
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By the way,e3000 blows. If you find it get one,throw tomota on it and you are good to go.
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