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[SOLVED] Connecting a Router to an existing FIOS Router

bumfromjersey 834 143 January 15, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Hello Everyone,

I purchased a TP-Link WDR3600 (FP deal) with the expressed purpose of using it as a way to share an external hard drive over a home network. My goal is to have the external hard drive recognized as a media server (or a network share) by my WDTV Live device.

Unfortunately, I am having a lot of trouble figuring out how to setup the router with an existing Verizon FIOS Actiontrec router. I can connect the router just fine and use it as a bridge but I can't see the external hard drive at all. If I connect the router directly to my computer - no problem but once I involve the FIOS router, I have internet access but accessing the TP-Link configuration or the external hard drive as a network share isn't happening. Right now, the TP-Link is working as a bridge but I think I have to change it to an access point which I am not sure how.

Does anyone have any experience with this kind of setup? Can you help or point me in a direction where I can find some detailed instructions?

Thanks!

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Any reason you can't connect the hard drive directly to the WDTV and cut out the middle man?
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Hello Everyone,

I purchased a TP-Link WDR3600 (FP deal) with the expressed purpose of using it as a way to share an external hard drive over a home network. My goal is to have the external hard drive recognized as a media server (or a network share) by my WDTV Live device.

Unfortunately, I am having a lot of trouble figuring out how to setup the router with an existing Verizon FIOS Actiontrec router. I can connect the router just fine and use it as a bridge but I can't see the external hard drive at all. If I connect the router directly to my computer - no problem but once I involve the FIOS router, I have internet access but accessing the TP-Link configuration or the external hard drive as a network share isn't happening. Right now, the TP-Link is working as a bridge but I think I have to change it to an access point which I am not sure how.

Does anyone have any experience with this kind of setup? Can you help or point me in a direction where I can find some detailed instructions?

Thanks!
So the USB storage uses a Samba implementation for the file server services. So the SMB [wikipedia.org] protocol is being used. Have you opened the correct ports through the router of the FIOS so you have proper communication from router to router?
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Quote from prozac4312 View Post :
Any reason you can't connect the hard drive directly to the WDTV and cut out the middle man?
I can but ideally I would like not have to mount and dismount the drive everytime I want to add something to it.

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So the USB storage uses a Samba implementation for the file server services. So the SMB [wikipedia.org] protocol is being used. Have you opened the correct ports through the router of the FIOS so you have proper communication from router to router?
I don't think I have. How would I do that?
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I don't think I have. How would I do that?
You read like you know what you're doing so I'm sure you know your FIOS router. I have Comcast so don't have your router to reference, but it should have a web interface to allow you to go in and add Port Forwarding rules? If so, just need to add the proper ports Samba needs for communication.
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change new router ip to 192.168.1.2, turn off it's DHCP.
change fios router DHCP range, make it exclude 192.168.1.2

connect new router LAN to fios router LAN.
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I have a very similar network setup to yours. The FIOS router (Actiontec MI424) should already be configured. It should pick up any devices linked to your TP-Link.

I assume you're using a wireless backhaul (ActionTec <- Wireless -> TP-Link <- USB -> HDD)? I think you'll need to configure your TP-Link using WDS (page 35 in the manual [tp-linkru.com]). After that, I would configure your TP-Link with a static IP for ease of management.

EDIT: If you're using a wired backhaul, simply disable the wireless radio (page 5) and the DHCP server functionality (page 58) of the TP-Link and the Actiontec should handle the rest. I'd configure a static IP for management (or use DHCP reservation on the Actiontec, if you think that would be simpler).
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Iagree pretty much with the last 2 posters...

make sure your router is in the same IP range as your other network devices...say your fios router is 192.168.1.1, assign your new router to 192.168.1.250

Don't use the WAN port on your new router, run a cable from the LAN port to one of the LAN ports on your FIOS router.

Turn off WiFi, and DHCP as noted above.

Then have your Western Digital Device try to find that drive attached to your new router.

Basically you are using your new router as a switch and a NAS, disabling the routing function (wan port), Wifi and DHCP server.

or...you could have just got a NAS enclosure as you don't need the other features of what a wireless router does.

*1 exception to that...if you need it to be a wireless bridge to your FIOS router, then don't turn that off, but make sure that the router is still on the same network subnet.
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Quote from Miruki View Post :
change new router ip to 192.168.1.2, turn off it's DHCP.
change fios router DHCP range, make it exclude 192.168.1.2

connect new router LAN to fios router LAN.
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I have a very similar network setup to yours. The FIOS router (Actiontec MI424) should already be configured. It should pick up any devices linked to your TP-Link.

I assume you're using a wireless backhaul (ActionTec <- Wireless -> TP-Link <- USB -> HDD)? I think you'll need to configure your TP-Link using WDS (page 35 in the manual [tp-linkru.com]. After that, I would configure your TP-Link with a static IP for ease of management.

EDIT: If you're using a wired backhaul, simply disable the wireless radio (page 5) and the DHCP server functionality (page 58) of the TP-Link and the Actiontec should handle the rest. I'd configure a static IP for management (or use DHCP reservation on the Actiontec, if you think that would be simpler).
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Iagree pretty much with the last 2 posters...

make sure your router is in the same IP range as your other network devices...say your fios router is 192.168.1.1, assign your new router to 192.168.1.250

Don't use the WAN port on your new router, run a cable from the LAN port to one of the LAN ports on your FIOS router.

Turn off WiFi, and DHCP as noted above.

Then have your Western Digital Device try to find that drive attached to your new router.

Basically you are using your new router as a switch and a NAS, disabling the routing function (wan port), Wifi and DHCP server.

or...you could have just got a NAS enclosure as you don't need the other features of what a wireless router does.

*1 exception to that...if you need it to be a wireless bridge to your FIOS router, then don't turn that off, but make sure that the router is still on the same network subnet.
You guys are awesome! Reps to both of you. I will try it now and get back to you.
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You guys are awesome! Reps to both of you. I will try it now and get back to you.
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Hey guys...solved!

I tried what everyone suggested but I was still having some trouble. I headed over to DSL reports and found this handy guide:

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/12506

Wireless bridging doesn't seem to be supported but hardwired was. I think the solution you guys gave me was spot on but I didn't realize I shouldn't have anything plugged into the WAN port of the non-verizon router. To use it as a switch, I thought I needed to have a ethernet cable coming from the non-verizon router's WAN port to one of the LAN ports on the verizon router. Once I read that no, it should be LAN to LAN - everything is great. I see the hard drive on my computer and on the WDTV device.

Thanks again everyone for their help!
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