New Lenovo X230T Tablet Laptop with Multitouch $632

Quote from Keytomyheart : Didn't read the thread fully, but you should use their parts look up page and enter your serial number to see what's in the system. GG itself is pretty good for outdoor use other than the obvious con(pen only) and it was once really sought-after item since their retail site always ran out of it quickly. If you must use multitouch, then sell it or otherwise keep it(assuking if you do get the GG variant). They both have their merits.

Thanks. Finally I can look up the detail configuration of the computer I ordered. Lenovo CS is not helpful at all.

Quote from tennisplayer888 : Seriously? The surface pro w/ a keyboard will cost over $1000, and while it beats the X230 in terms of battery life and thinner form factor that is all. I am not sure if you are just trolling or being serious. So would you even say the $900 Surface Pro will even beat out an X1 Carbon at the same or similar price? There are a couple of those around as well for around that price. New ones could be had for around $840 the other night.

You can't compare something like the Surface Pro and the X1 Carbon because the X1 Carbon doesn't have a pressure sensitive screen like the Surface Pro. At lot of artists buy these tablets for drawing purposes.

Quote from tennisplayer888 : Mfg P/N FRU P/N Description Serviceable 04Y3098 - - Yes 0A66702 - - Yes 0B36031 - - Yes 0B46388 03X6561 MODULE FRU-Lenovo 4GB PC3-12800 DDR Yes This is all it says, but IDK which one is the screen.

Mine has exactly the same configuration. My order is not shipped yet. But if I got it for around five hundred like you did, I'll just keep it.

Quote from SevereSoldier : You can't compare something like the Surface Pro and the X1 Carbon because the X1 Carbon doesn't have a pressure sensitive screen like the Surface Pro. At lot of artists buy these tablets for drawing purposes.

The X230 Tablet is a far better choice on all fronts for those purposes. I will be using mine for sculpting and texture painting.

How are you guys finding out that parts info on an X230t you don't have yet? When I go to http://ovp.lenovo.com/lenovo-ovp/...dex.action and enter my order #/phone #, I just get a one-line thing saying "order processing 3438CTR" with my price.

EDIT: Found out how here: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=57171
Here's a parts number PDF: http://download.lenovo.com/parts/...121010.pdf

Quote from GoldenTiger : How are you guys finding out that parts info on an X230t you don't have yet? When I go to http://ovp.lenovo.com/lenovo-ovp/...dex.action and enter my order #/phone #, I just get a one-line thing saying "order processing 3438CTR" with my price. EDIT: Found out how here: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=57171 Here's a parts number PDF: http://download.lenovo.com/parts/...121010.pdf

Doesnt help me too much, it does not list anything on my products page which gives specifics. It does not even show a digitizer pen.

Quote from tennisplayer888 : Mfg P/N FRU P/N Description Serviceable 04Y3098 - - Yes 0A66702 - - Yes 0B36031 - - Yes 0B46388 03X6561 MODULE FRU-Lenovo 4GB PC3-12800 DDR Yes 0B66650 04W1779 Antenna FRU LAN 2x2 3x3 Antenna Yes 0B67282 04T4523 DISKCD FAP Win7HPx64 SP1 US Yes 0B67680 04W6716 CDPOP FRUPlni5-3320M NV Y-AMTY-TPM Yes 0B67716 04W6930 HEATSK FRUCM2FAN IntegrateSVToshiba Yes 0B70562 - - Yes 0B73772 - - Yes 0B73775 - - Yes 0B73776 - - Yes 0C10077 - - Yes 42T1203 42T1204 DRIVEH Tray-SATA7 C320AF Seagate Yes 42T1365 54Y8376 HARD DRIVE FRU DT HDD 320GB MX Yes 42T4418 42T4419 ADAPTR Liteon65W20V2P Yes 42T5093 - - Yes 42X4525 - - Yes 45N1076 - - Yes 60Y3252 60Y3253 ADAPTR FRU TP 22 WLAN Yes 60Y3304 60Y3305 ADAPTR FRU Liteon Bluetooth Yes 71Y9155 - - Yes This is all it says, but IDK which one is the screen.

The second PN is the screen but you need the FRU to be sure what you have. The manu number just specs for a 12.5" lcd screen.

For everyone interested, once you have serial + machine type you can look up your parts as configured on your machine here: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/p...ookup.page

Quote from ducky2802 : The second PN is the screen but you need the FRU to be sure what you have. The manu number just specs for a 12.5" lcd screen. For everyone interested, once you have serial + machine type you can look up your parts as configured on your machine here: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/p...ookup.page

Just shows this:

http://www.screentekinc.com/Lenovo-0A66702.shtml

I hope there is still touch at least either multi. or pen input will work.

Quote from tennisplayer888 : Just shows this: http://www.screentekinc.com/Lenovo-0A66702.shtml I hope there is still touch at least either multi. or pen input will work.

If you bought the X230T, it will have the pen input, 256? levels pressure sensitive wacom. If your product page prior to ordering said MT screen, you should get the MT minimum, and if not, its easy to get 100% refunded since what you ordered isnt what you received. Sometimes they upgrade components as well, no guarantees, but Ive seen webcams, higher spec'd screens, SSD's and the like show up. However, the park lookup page I put up with the serial+ machine type is dead on accurate what you'll actually get and you just have to make sure what you ordered matches.

Quote from ducky2802 : If you bought the X230T, it will have the pen input, 256? levels pressure sensitive wacom. If your product page prior to ordering said MT screen, you should get the MT minimum, and if not, its easy to get 100% refunded since what you ordered isnt what you received. Sometimes they upgrade components as well, no guarantees, but Ive seen webcams, higher spec'd screens, SSD's and the like show up. However, the park lookup page I put up with the serial+ machine type is dead on accurate what you'll actually get and you just have to make sure what you ordered matches.

This?:

http://img545.imageshack.us/img54...onfirm.png

I print-screened the page which I ordered from.

Do the x230t's use IPS panels like the x230?

Quote from kollunz : Do the x230t's use IPS panels like the x230?

Yes, both versions Multitouch and Pen-Only do.

Quote from GoldenTiger : Not sure, but I saw a Yoga in the outlet recently, if that helps give any idea. I'd say at least a few months from release to outlet.

Yes, Yoga 13 selling on outlet; there is 163 of them available all refurbs

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For all those wondering about the displays on these guys (x220 and x230 tablets/nontablets) - here's my experience (having heavily used the non tablet and multitouch version, briefly used the gorilla glass version):

Non Tablet: In my opinion, the best display of the bunch if you don't need touch input. Even though all three use the same or very similar IPS panels, the multitouch version and the Gorilla glass add an extra layer on top of the base LCD - and you do lose some quality. Also the laptop is overall lighter and feels more sturdy because it doesn't have the swivel hinge. I seem to get better battery life out of the non-tablet version as well.

Multi touch version: The most muddled screen of the three in my opinion. That's not to say it's bad LCD. But in comparison to the other two versions (non touch and gorilla glass) - the image quality suffers the most from the multitouch layer. One can argue that the glare on the Gorilla glass version is more detracting, but it comes down to personal preference. Atleast the multitouch version is antiglare.

In terms of usability - Windows 7 is not finger friendly at all. You can make the DPI bigger to make buttons easier to hit - but you're already working with a small screen - so it's not really practical. Finger input lacks precision. The pen input is much more practical as the digitizer is quite precise.

On Windows 8, you'll have a much better experience with the finger input - atleast in the "metro" interface (as that was made for touch). That said, once you're back to the standard windows desktop - you'll run into the same problem with the lack of precision on hard to hit buttons on a small screen with finger input. In tablet mode (using it like an ipad), it's pretty nice and finger friendly as long as you don't plan on doing any serious work.

Gorilla Glass: I only spent a few hours with this one - but my take is that the display is more crisp than the multitouch, but loses points for the crazy glare.

As covered in the multitouch version above - for those of you on Windows 7 and only have the pen input Gorilla glass version - you're not missing anything here.

I didn't get to test Windows 8 on the Gorilla Glass version, but from using the multitouch version, just having to use the digitizer in the "metro" UI interface is not very intuitive. That said, for those just going straight into standard windows - you won't miss much.

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Anyway, that's my experience with the three. None of them are perfect, just find the one that suits your needs. I see alot of people with buyers remorse with the gorilla glass display, but honestly - you're not missing out on much - especially if you're still on Windows 7.