LG 47G2 47" 120Hz 1080p 3D LED-Backlit LCD HD Television with Google TV 699.99 free ship AC

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It has been 3 days...

they got refurbs

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For $10 more, you can get a new one on Amazon. Depending where you live you might have to add taxes.

Amazon new: $999 + free shipping
Tiger Direct refurb: $989 + $45.09 shipping

Back in stock! But final price after checkout is now $770.79

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Quote from zaku178 : According to reviews, this panel is a 60hz panel while the tru-motion bumps it to 120hz. Guess I'll wait for a deal on the 47LM7600

That's what Tru-motion and many other makers brands (they have their own names for it, do) for a Tru-motion 120Hz TV it would have a 60Hz Refresh rate when not using the Tru-motion feature..
It's not that 60Hz isn't fast enough, since this is Passive 3D 60Hz is OK as each eye 540 vertical lines are painted every other frame odd & even and the human eye pieces it back together unlike active which has to have at least 120Hz bc it paints both right & left eyes simultaneously.
The problem is that LG LIED and said these sets were 120Hz capable when they aren't!

This is a NEW PROBLEM industry wide, the problem started appearing this year in the big brands. For LG the 120Hz Tru-motion panels like my LD550 from a couple years back, with Tru-motion anti-judder off the panel refreshes @ 60Hz. Tru-motion was explained as a feature that you turned on to enable 120Hz. That wasn't hidden or un-disclosed. The panel operates at 60Hz unless or until you enable the tru-motion. The PROBLEM is read below what HDGuru found.
...Unfortunately, the G2 for whether it's seems to also be FALSELY listed as a 120Hz Tru-motion TV that is NOT capable of 120Hz.

Too bad they didn't throw the Google TV apps into the 7600.

Quote from JYOSS : I find the 6700 a phenomenal value, certainly considering the number of features that the model carries. As for the Tru-Motion, yes the panel is a hardware 60Hz unit, but I consider it a more than adequate picture considering the cost (and I think that everyone just likes to jump on the anti-Tru-Motion bandwagon). Personally, I think that the picture far exceeds that of my LH90....granted it is 2-3 years newer.

What is / was it that you thought was inferior about the G2? Did you you try a second set or a display model to make sure it wasn't an isolated problem issue?

Quote from menace33 : Not sure about hates, but they are harsh toward LG TVs and seem to have a mean-on for Panasonic LED TVs. LG does mislabel their 120 MHz and 240 MHz as they are usually half of that when in normal use but kick it into 120 MHz or 240MHz or 480MHz gear when using TruMotion to eliminate the blur. Frankly I'm tired of what is true and what is false and what is kinda sorta. If it works for you it works and LG is working great for me currently.

That's not what was mislabeled. People that do any research could find this information about how Samsung, Sony & LG all handle their anti-judder by increasing frame rate. Some people buy a TV and then freak out because it "can't accept 120Hz input" etc. etc. But that was never claimed, nor was all time 120Hz on a Tru-motion 60Hz panel

BUT THAT'S not what happened to several models of LG & other makers this year.
HDGuru calls out the LG 6700 for advertising 120Hz true Motion when the SET is physically incapable of doing 120Hz. Then when they called LG out on it being only 60Hz LG gave a blow-off response and then eventually released a firmware "update" that created an anti-judder setting however, it did not enable 120Hz it was more of the lie cover-up-smoke-&-Mirrors B.S. That's not a mislabeling, or the end user not understanding what/how anti-judder implementation operates, prior to this year on some specific models that is.
http://hdguru.com/lg-55lm6700-hdt...ated/8281/

Quote from turnne : LG TV's are always a good value for the priceI think people jump on the Tru motion because they really dont disclose that its not really accurate...in the sense of the manufacturers that really use frame interpolation...such as Sony and Samsung

People in the past incorrectly jumped on not just Tru-motion from LG but the other makers for not having the maximum re-fresh rate the interpolation smoothing anti-judder / anti-blur on all the time or bc they didn't read it was output not input based.
But that's not why people are jumping on LG and other makers this year.

Quote from Bdubslawman : That's what Tru-motion and many other makers brands do, that's correct for the LM7600 if it's a Tru-motion 120Hz TV. The LM7600 isn't 120Hz full time. Since this is Passive 3D 60Hz is OK as each eye 540 vertical lines are painted every other frame and the human eye pieces it back together unlike active which has to have at least 120Hz bc it paints both right & left eyes simultaneously. That's not the problem that started appearing this year in LG and other brands. For the 120Hz Tru-motion panels like my LD550 from a couple years back, with Tru-motion anti-judder off the panel refreshes @ 60Hz. Tru-motion was explained as a feature that you turned on to enable 120Hz. That wasn't hidden or un-disclosed. The panel operates at 60Hz unless or until you enable the tru-motion. The PROBLEM is read below what HDGuru found. ...Unfortunately, I don't know of any sites that have ever actually tested the G2 for whether it's 60 - 120Hz capable with Tru-motion. Since people have reported if it is true, that it has no option to control Anti-Judder & Anti-blur then that's NOT A GOOD SIGN! What is / was it that you thought was inferior about the G2? Did you you try a second set or a display model to make sure it wasn't an isolated problem issue? That's not what was mislabeled. People that do any research could find this information about how Samsung, Sony & LG all handle their anti-judder by increasing frame rate. Some people buy a TV and then freak out because it "can't accept 120Hz input" etc. etc. But that was never claimed, nor was all time 120Hz on a Tru-motion 60Hz panel BUT THAT'S not what happened to several models of LG & other makers this year. HDGuru calls out the LG 6700 for advertising 120Hz true Motion when the SET is physically incapable of doing 120Hz. Then when they called LG out on it being only 60Hz LG gave a blow-off response and then eventually released a firmware "update" that created an anti-judder setting however, it did not enable 120Hz it was more of the lie cover-up-smoke-&-Mirrors B.S. That's not a mislabeling, or the end user not understanding what/how anti-judder implementation operates, prior to this year on some specific models that is. http://hdguru.com/lg-55lm6700-hdt...ated/8281/ People in the past incorrectly jumped on not just Tru-motion from LG but the other makers for not having the maximum re-fresh rate the interpolation smoothing anti-judder / anti-blur on all the time or bc they didn't read it was output not input based. But that's not why people are jumping on LG and other makers this year.

the fact remains that LG states 120hz ( or 240 hz) "tru-motion"
This is "simulated" as they use a 60hz panel with a scanning backlight to create 120hz or 240hz effect...Panasonic and Toshiba do the same thing

Where as Sony and Samsung have a tru 120hz( or 240hz) panel that is actually overlaying multiple frames

Depending on your taste..you could say the simulated is as good as the actual...??

However the fact remains it is simulated.....and I might assume that the simulated is cheaper to produce

Quote from turnne : LG TV's are always a good value for the price I think people jump on the Tru motion because they really dont disclose that its not really accurate...in the sense of the manufacturers that really use frame interpolation...such as Sony and Samsung

Quote from turnne : the fact remains that LG states 120hz ( or 240 hz) "tru-motion" This is "simulated" as they use a 60hz panel with a scanning backlight to create 120hz or 240hz effect...Panasonic and Toshiba do the same thing Where as Sony and Samsung have a tru 120hz( or 240hz) panel that is actually overlaying multiple frames Depending on your taste..you could say the simulated is as good as the actual...?? However the fact remains it is simulated.....and I might assume that the simulated is cheaper to produce

OK, you are mixing up several issues lumping them incorrectly.

#1 this is not an LG only problem, it's a Samsung, Sony, Sharp, Panasonic, Vizio... problem: http://hdguru.com/beware-of-phony...ates/7726/
People often quite incorrectly have a this brand is better than that brand bias when each model & each technology, frankly each set needs to weighed against the others. Their is nothing inferior or "cheap" about LGs top of the line TVs compared to Samsung, Panasonic, or Sony and many of their middle lines just like other makers offer good bang for the buck to average users. All TV makers all have hits & misses and good models/lines\tiers and bad ones. Comparing a middle level from one brand and implying it's a fair comparison to higher level in a competing brand is skewing things to fit a predetermined narrative.
However, in this case LG tried to pull the wool over customer's eyes by attempting to say a few models had tru-motion when they didn't and to "compensate" they figured they could try and pass off the black frame insertion as essential the same thing' when it's not.
BAD LG for the models it tried to get away with this on in 2012.

#2 Up until this year LG has no TVs that say 120Hz that don't deliver True 120Hz Output, my LD550 does a great job with it. It's got it uses especially fun in games, but it often gives me a queasy feeling on content that produces the S.O.E.
"Where as Sony and Samsung have a tru 120hz( or 240hz) panel that is actually overlaying multiple frames"

#3 "This is "simulated" as they use a 60hz panel with a scanning backlight to create 120hz or 240hz effect...Panasonic and Toshiba do the same thing"
That's incorrect. They cannot "simulate" 120Hz ...or 240Hz by attempting (in many cases incorrectly because of the limitations on Lower - middle end TVs with edge lit LED arrays) to actually have a 'black frame insertion.' This is actually a proven technique, or optical trick to help arrest blur that LCD panels can/suffer from. However for arguments sake even if they could do this correctly, it does nothing to change the output from 60Hz, and that's where LG went wrong - well that plus the attempt to cover & shut up people by adding in firmware an anti-judder option that is useless - because again the panel is stuck at 60Hz not way around it.
I want to be clear this is not by any means all LG LCD models, nor is it all Sony or all Samsung models that are making dubious claims based with numbers & data that consumers know as buzz words 120, 240...by now giving them new made up jargon terms, when people were used to FPS, or Refresh Rate/Hz.

And yes, they did this because you are quite correct it is cheaper to eliminate the circuit called Motion Estimation/Motion Compensation needed to accomplish the interpolated frames taking 24FPs or 30FPS to 120Hz output.