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Little birdie just told us that the Nexus 4 will return to the Google Play store at 9AM Pacific tomorrow.

https://play.google.com/store/dev...exus_4_8gb

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Last Edited by ffly45 March 4, 2013 at 01:12 AM
02/04/2013 - Rumor N4 coming to Walmart, contract or no contract not known yet
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/02/wa...s-say-yes/

If you do nothing else with your new N4, at least unlock the bootloader (not the same as unlocking from carrier which has been in the news recently); unlocking the bootloader wipes your phone so I highly recommend doing it on a fresh install so less to restore/reconfigure. That way, you have the option of rooting your phone down the road without having to wipe your phone again. I used NEXUS 4 TOOLKIT [xda-developers.com] to unlock and root. I learned the hard way, and I unlocked/rooted 45 days later. It's more of a hassle then.
Please PM whoever has written the above comments. I have few questions-- Ravwal

Even if you don't ROOT or unlock Bootloader, it's perfect just the way it is.

BTW, check out some of these customized Nexus 4 home screens [androidcentral.com].


Nexus 4 White:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013...oto-shoot/

Qi Wireless Charging Mat for anyone needing one, proven to work:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/...46/1215400 - Kenjiwing

Alternative case recommended by some, $9.95:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Y12MCU/ (Editorial note: Or you could get the same thing from eBay for much, much less. And yes, I do have this case from eBay, and it's great. -C64K)

More Nexus 4 accessories:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/f...php?f=1910

Seems to be flat rate $13.99 shipping for up to 4 phones (2 8GB and 2 16GB) per order and up to 5 bumpers.

Note: Order fulfillment is NOT handled in-house. It's all outsourced to UPS Logistics. The inventory goes from the factory to some warehouse owned by UPS, not by Google, and it's all packaged, labeled, and shipped by UPS, not by Google. Altering an order is much more of a hassle because Google's customer support, since it is handled by an entirely different entity than the entity handling order fulfillment, don't really know what's going on and don't have the ability to do much for you. So keep this in mind and make sure to double-check things like your shipping address before submitting the order, because once submitted, corrections are difficult, if not impossible!


Potential battery life bugs, keep an eye out for these. They are likely software related, though a few people have said getting an RMA device has helped/fixed it:
http://code.google.com/p/android/...l?id=40660
http://productforums.google.com/f...GkT5gjEY0J
https://productforums.google.com/...0-false%5D << This guy got an RMA and claims it helped..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s...?t=1999368


Wirefly has Nexus 4 for $149 for both new and qualifiying customers - Bad_Boy (but you're still better off buying it off-contract from Google and switching from a Classic T-Mobile plan to a Value T-Mobile plan)

1. buying this nexus 4 phone from t-mobile, wirefly, best buy....etc WILL involve a contract. For anyone thinking of breaking t-mobile contract after purchasing from wirefly, please note of additional wifefly charges, in addition to t-mobile break up fees.

2. there is NO CONTRACT if you buy this phone directly from google play store .... Big Grin

3. The reason this is a slick deal is that you can use this with those cheap unsubsidized plans. Like pre-paid plans or T-Mobile's Value (not Classic) post-paid plans. Those kinds of plans will save you around $20 per month, so over the course of a couple of years, you just saved $480 in month costs, which more than makes up for the higher upfront cost of the phone. If you buy this phone and then use it on a subsidized plan (AT&T's regular plans or T-Mobile's non-Value plans), then you're missing the whole point of getting a non-contract unsubsidized phone.

4. NEXUS 4 will only work with gsm networks, ie (AT&T, t-mobile, and their mvno) ...will NOT work with Verizon and Sprit, and their mvno

5. Micro-SIM. Not mini-SIM, not nano-SIM, but micro-SIM. If you are an existing T-Mobile customer, you can exchange your current SIM for a micro-SIM for free at any T-Mobile store.

6. No LTE support (there is unofficial support for LTE on the AWS band, which is the band that T-Mobile will use to deploy its upcoming LTE service, but there is no guarantee that this unofficial support will remain in future updates, and AT&T uses the AWS band in only a few areas). The phone does support HSPA+42, which in real-life usage, is just as good as LTE.

7. Will NOT work with T-Mobile's branded WiFi Calling (though any other VoIP solution can still work)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s...?t=2012468

This only affects T-Mobile's proprietary, branded WiFi Calling feature (extremely useful if traveling abroad or if you are in a building with poor reception), which is available only on T-Mobile-branded phones running the stock T-Mobile-supplied ROM. Since the Nexus 4 is free of all carrier add-ons, this also means that T-Mobile's WiFi Calling will not work. Alternative VoIP options like Skype, Vonage, SIP, etc., are unaffected and will work as usual.

8. Does NOT have microSDHC slot. HDMI (and VGA, DisplayPort, etc.) available with a Slimport adapter or a Miracast receiver

9. goes very well with gsm (at&t, t-mobile and their mvno) pre-paid or t-mobile family value plan

10. No OTG support: google seems to have pulled the OTG support from nexus 4, people who wish to plug usb storage or dongles etc may not be able to do so. It however does support keyboard over bluetooth. Rumors say that there were hardware issues over OTG ( not enough voltage to support OTG gadgets), and some rumors say that google may add it in future via updates...we'll have to wait and see.

11. Yes, the N4 does support T-Mobile's "HD Voice" feature.

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Still do not see refund after 14 business days. Refused delivery and they received it on Feb.7. Called them twice and was told it'd take another 3-5 business days...

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anyone, can you please help me? I called att and asked them to block my data usage on a regular basic phone, if I changed to this phone, is the data usage still blocked?
Doubtful. Cell providers require a data package if you activate a smart phone. So you might be able to block data on the phone but you'll still end up paying for it.
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Doubtful. Cell providers require a data package if you activate a smart phone. So you might be able to block data on the phone but you'll still end up paying for it.
I still don't understand why people want a good smartphone without the ability to use it whenever the want, wherever they want. Data is not even that expensive on a phone. The response will inevitably be, I don't need data outside my house or the occasional wifi hotspot. Really? You don't search for crap on google maps when out and about? You don't search for a cheaper price online when you're in a store? I bet you would actually save yourself time and money by having data on your phone for those two main reasons. Having no data only makes since for both extremes of the age bracket. Or people who never leave their homes due to agoraphobia.
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I still don't understand why people want a good smartphone without the ability to use it whenever the want, wherever they want. Data is not even that expensive on a phone. The response will inevitably be, I don't need data outside my house or the occasional wifi hotspot. Really? You don't search for crap on google maps when out and about? You don't search for a cheaper price online when you're in a store? I bet you would actually save yourself time and money by having data on your phone for those two main reasons. Having no data only makes since for both extremes of the age bracket. Or people who never leave their homes due to agoraphobia.

That's not completely true. Data IS expensive... through AT&T. Any where I'm at, there's WiFi available so there's no need for me to use data. I don't NEED a smart phone. But like I do like the GUI, the better apps, and the instant email on Wifi that fits my needs. I live in a small city, every where I go, I already know the place. If I really need guidance, I use apps like Copilot with offline maps so I don't accrue data charges. If I shop, I don't pull out my phone to compare prices on every item. I'm guessing you do so for big ticket items. This is where Slickdeals comes in. nod I actually save $100 a month on not using data so that comes out to around $1200 a year. And lastly, to address the agoraphobia issue, I'm a college student that go to school and work and see my house for maybe 6 hours a day because I'm out and about all the time. To each his/her own. Please do not trash others lifestyle just because you don't understand it or it differs from you own.

In regards to the other earlier post, if you get a really nice representative at AT&T, they won't tell you that you can cheat their system and disconnect data, but they will tell you that "Yes, you can shut off data on your line and will not be charged for data, but you won't be able to get MMS, or assistance/updates to your phones because it cannot be recognize by the server." I shut off data on all my devices on my account, switched phones on and off over the past 2 years. At&t still thinks I have old flip phones and has no idea what my devices really are.
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That's not completely true. Data IS expensive... through AT&T. Any where I'm at, there's WiFi available so there's no need for me to use data. I don't NEED a smart phone. But like I do like the GUI, the better apps, and the instant email on Wifi that fits my needs. I live in a small city, every where I go, I already know the place. If I really need guidance, I use apps like Copilot with offline maps so I don't accrue data charges. If I shop, I don't pull out my phone to compare prices on every item. I'm guessing you do so for big ticket items. This is where Slickdeals comes in. nod I actually save $100 a month on not using data so that comes out to around $1200 a year. And lastly, to address the agoraphobia issue, I'm a college student that go to school and work and see my house for maybe 6 hours a day because I'm out and about all the time. To each his/her own. Please do not trash others lifestyle just because you don't understand it or it differs from you own.

In regards to the other earlier post, if you get a really nice representative at AT&T, they won't tell you that you can cheat their system and disconnect data, but they will tell you that "Yes, you can shut off data on your line and will not be charged for data, but you won't be able to get MMS, or assistance/updates to your phones because it cannot be recognize by the server." I shut off data on all my devices on my account, switched phones on and off over the past 2 years. At&t still thinks I have old flip phones and has no idea what my devices really are.
Saving $100 a month by not using data? ROFL. You can get a straight talk plan ($45) that gives you unlimited talk/text/data. This uses AT&T's network btw. I hope you are not going to college to be a math teacher. You are either ignorant or stupid.
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Quote from cdcooker View Post :
Not really. Like I said previously, the difference is minimal to make me feel a difference. N4 is slightly better in most categories, but just slightly better. It is an minor incremental update, just like iPhone 4S over 4. For example, the speaker of N4 is louder and clearer than GN, but not loud enough that I can hear it clearly on street even push the volume to the max. Camera is slightly better, but in low light situation, same thing, and sometimes I feel it is even worst than GN. GN shot to shot is much faster, I can just tap on the button and it will take pictures continuously, and N4 has always a delay between continuous shooting. I also like the headphone jack on the bottom of the phone like GN, so inside a car when I use GPS, all the connected cables (phone and audio cables) are on one side, unlike N4, the cables are on both sides. N4 is also much warmer, not hot though.

Google exec said the next Google Nexus will have insanely better camera. I will wait for that. For now, I will return my N4 and keep GN.
GN -> previous nexus from Samsung?
if yes:
the samsung one has better Camera than N4.
honestly.. I never trust phone camera Smilie, just use it when needed.

can not comment on port/connector. both are ok for me.

I prefer N4 on performance, compared with GN.
load many apps and see differences.

N4 is a bit warmer than GN,yap. but GN is thicker than N4.

as I always do, I ignore "better Camera" on smartphone Stick Out Tongue... I would prefer to take shots in a real camera where give me better outcome.

I bought N4 due on my wife "broken" old galaxy S(vibrant, bought used almost 3 years ago) that would freeze randomly when get warm. I got N4 and my wife use GN.
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That's not completely true. Data IS expensive... through AT&T. Any where I'm at, there's WiFi available so there's no need for me to use data. I don't NEED a smart phone. But like I do like the GUI, the better apps, and the instant email on Wifi that fits my needs. I live in a small city, every where I go, I already know the place. If I really need guidance, I use apps like Copilot with offline maps so I don't accrue data charges. If I shop, I don't pull out my phone to compare prices on every item. I'm guessing you do so for big ticket items. This is where Slickdeals comes in. nod I actually save $100 a month on not using data so that comes out to around $1200 a year. And lastly, to address the agoraphobia issue, I'm a college student that go to school and work and see my house for maybe 6 hours a day because I'm out and about all the time. To each his/her own. Please do not trash others lifestyle just because you don't understand it or it differs from you own.

In regards to the other earlier post, if you get a really nice representative at AT&T, they won't tell you that you can cheat their system and disconnect data, but they will tell you that "Yes, you can shut off data on your line and will not be charged for data, but you won't be able to get MMS, or assistance/updates to your phones because it cannot be recognize by the server." I shut off data on all my devices on my account, switched phones on and off over the past 2 years. At&t still thinks I have old flip phones and has no idea what my devices really are.
What data plan does ATT charge for $100? That's absurd.
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For a no contract phone, N4's price is OK, but it is definitely not a flagship phone. In today's standard, 1080p screen, top of the line still and video camera performance define a flagship phone. N4 just lack on these categories. The camera performance is just a bit better than Galaxy Nexus, but there is no comparison even to Galaxy SII. Don't forget the infamous camera locking bug, as posted on here [google.com]. Also, the haptic feedback of N4 is a joke, it is so weak and next to unnoticeable. Galaxy Nexus is the best that I have ever experienced in terms of the haptic feedback. If you already have GN, the only thing that's worth to consider to upgrade to G4 is HSPA+ 42 instead of 21. The faster CPU doesn't translate too much in real life performance. The 768p screen is not much an upgrade to 720p screen either. For those 16:9 video on YouTube or from your phone camera, you will see two tiny black bars on top and bottom.

N4 is an underwhelming upgrade to GN. They should price it like $299 for 16GB and $349 for 32GB (do not exist at this moment, but should be available to begin with, not the 8GB version!).
I won't take the pain to explain it but some people never understand. It is pointless trying to explain to such people why this is a good phone.
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You don't search for crap on google maps when out and about?
I use a GPS for this as smartphones consume data while navigating...and driving while searching for crap is another way to get into an accident..thanks to people like you who are on the roads...

besides, what crap are you looking for anyway? don't know where you're going?

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You don't search for a cheaper price online when you're in a store?
never....I did that part at home or at work...

Quote from toromac View Post :
I bet you would actually save yourself time and money by having data on your phone for those two main reasons. Having no data only makes since for both extremes of the age bracket. Or people who never leave their homes due to agoraphobia.
if you're really a savvy buyer...you would have done your homework at home or work searching for B&M prices, comparing everything before even venturing out.

it's the people who in impulse goes out to store to check out things and compare prices on their smartphones and justify the need for data plans...

even if I do this for a living, sensible people would have done this too...and that's why SD is here to help you guide through shopping....woot
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Quote from renjithasha View Post :
I won't take the pain to explain it but some people never understand. It is pointless trying to explain to such people why this is a good phone.
Sometimes, it is painful to accept the truth.

N4 is a good phone, no doubt about it, but for those who has GN already, N4 is not significantly better that warrant an upgrade. Also, Nexus 5 will probably announce sooner rather than later.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/...21151.html
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Quote from medbuyer View Post :
I use a GPS for this as smartphones consume data while navigating...and driving while searching for crap is another way to get into an accident..thanks to people like you who are on the roads...

Why the fark would I search for something while driving? You have committed the straw man logical fallacy on this one.

besides, what crap are you looking for anyway? don't know where you're going?

I live in a large city. Do you live in a bible worshipping small town with nothing better to do than visit your local Wal-mart. Oh wait, did I just make an assumption or two?

never....I did that part at home or at work...

if you're really a savvy buyer...you would have done your homework at home or work searching for B&M prices, comparing everything before even venturing out.

Again, straw man fallacy.

it's the people who in impulse goes out to store to check out things and compare prices on their smartphones and justify the need for data plans...

No. You are being too simplistic. There are myriad reasons to have a data plan.

even if I do this for a living, sensible people would have done this too...and that's why SD is here to help you guide through shopping....woot
I check slickdeals on my phone when needed which is something you are unable to do. Sucks doesn't it?
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la la la la la...adding to my posts on this forum. The discussions are way off topic now. So might as well gather some post count
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Quote from qc1986 View Post :
That's not completely true. Data IS expensive... through AT&T. Any where I'm at, there's WiFi available so there's no need for me to use data. I don't NEED a smart phone. But like I do like the GUI, the better apps, and the instant email on Wifi that fits my needs. I live in a small city, every where I go, I already know the place. If I really need guidance, I use apps like Copilot with offline maps so I don't accrue data charges. If I shop, I don't pull out my phone to compare prices on every item. I'm guessing you do so for big ticket items. This is where Slickdeals comes in. nod I actually save $100 a month on not using data so that comes out to around $1200 a year. And lastly, to address the agoraphobia issue, I'm a college student that go to school and work and see my house for maybe 6 hours a day because I'm out and about all the time. To each his/her own. Please do not trash others lifestyle just because you don't understand it or it differs from you own.

In regards to the other earlier post, if you get a really nice representative at AT&T, they won't tell you that you can cheat their system and disconnect data, but they will tell you that "Yes, you can shut off data on your line and will not be charged for data, but you won't be able to get MMS, or assistance/updates to your phones because it cannot be recognize by the server." I shut off data on all my devices on my account, switched phones on and off over the past 2 years. At&t still thinks I have old flip phones and has no idea what my devices really are.
Thank You, finally someone gets me! And data is expensive if you have a family plan 1 gb of data for two people is almost 90 dollars, i can save my self alot of money without data and can still use wifi
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Last edited by slikerdeals February 20, 2013 at 03:24 PM
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Quote from WingsOfF View Post :
Except that you don't understand the N4 pricing with Google. It's OK, most people don't.

People see the $299/$349 price with Google and assume that is full retail and so the prices will drop later elsewhere. This would be true in most retail solutions, but the Nexus sale at Google isn't like most retail. They are not doing this to make retail profit on these units and so effectively providing them close to wholesale prices.

This phone's MSRP is $499/$549. The wholesale prices are somewhere near $250/$300. So the pricing at Google if sold like other retailers would be marked something like:

Retail: $549, Our Price: $349, You save:$200

for the 16 GB N4.

This is how T-Mobile, the only other retailer for this phone sells it. Along with more subsidies at times for a contract.

It doesn't make sense for most regular retailers to sell with that kind of margins, except at an liquidation event to recover wholesale costs. If these phones were ever to reach that stage, most likely the supply would have dried up before the N5 arrives. So, at best, you might see a $20-$30 drop with perhaps no sales tax at some retailer but the likelihood of that is very small for this phone which is already being sold at close to cost.

You are right in a normal retail situation but aren't aware of how this particular sale at Google happens.
I understand how Google is pricing their phone and I'm not suggesting that there will be "normal" retail discounting but various Google products are sold by other retailers (eg Chromebooks) so they will have some promotions as they already have, although not very exciting. That's why my above post talks mostly about the marginal stuff like free shipping and cashback. But while demand is high there won't be any promotions at all. At some point demand and supply will balance out and retailers will compete to attract customers using an obviously attractive product. I'm sure Google doesn't want to be in retail so they will most likely not undercut retailers.
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I'm still waiting on your wisdom, Mr. Dropout.
LOL, so your comeback is "I know what you are but what am I?". Yeah, I was totally wrong.
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I just ordered the phone last night. Waiting for it eagerly. Need toget rid of my GNote after that...
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