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GDP falls for the first time since recession ended. before: http://www.businessinsider.com/gd...z2JV4y50EK
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50512...dp-report/
bitter Pennsylvanian clinging to my guns and religion.. Obama called it out in 08.
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And here all you guys thought those gun buyback programs were foolish. Stop buying guns people, we need the GDP to rebound!!!!!!!
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btw.. Sandy doesn't even rank in the top 5 in the U.S. for deaths, economic disturbance, financial destruction etc.. feel free to argue directly with those numbers above though.. Maybe if you call them partisan enough they'll change..? Last edited by DJPlayer; 01-30-2013 at 03:35 PM.. |
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The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.
Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is ‘‘trillion’’ with a ‘‘T.’’ That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion. Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America. And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest-growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on. Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead, interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans—a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies. Our debt also matters internationally. My friend, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42 Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion of foreign-held debt. This administration did more than that in just 5 years. Now, there is nothing wrong with borrowing from foreign countries. But we must remember that the more we depend on foreign nations to lend us money, the more our economic security is tied to the whims of foreign leaders whose interests might not be aligned with ours. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit. One thing changed of course. The Fiscal disaster known as Medicaid now costs twice as much. Last edited by Krazen1211; 01-30-2013 at 06:17 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
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What does "almost every instance of GDP growth going negative from Q to Q was during a recession" have to do with slightly negative 4thQ2012 GDP growth, anyway? What does that even mean? Consecutive Quarters of negative growth? We don't have that (yet). |
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Time to harp on GDP numbers again... "Look how great our GDP number is... oh sure, we had to steal $10 trillion dollars from our kids to get that number, but I'll let my kids worry about that." Joe Biden says Buy a Shotgun! Wackiness ensues! [youtu.be]
Keynesians have "stimulus spent" $16 trillion dollars. Where are the jobs? Are you on Obama's Little List? [youtube.com] The biggest tax no one talks about [washingtontimes.com] "George Ought to Help" [youtube.com] Keynes vs Hayek economics rap battle [youtube.com] How the GOP stole the nomination [examiner.com] |
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Your kids got their educations and an economy that is not collapsed. It's just too bad that Republicans didn't want to pay for that as we go. But why just count recent deficit spending? Why not the whole $16T? |
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For the rest of you saying the debt doesn't matter...when Obama leaves office in 4 years, the debt will be over $20 TRILLION. Now, consider what will happen if interest rates rise to 5%, which is actually low by historical standards...the current rates are an illusion, a farce, foisted upon us by last-ditch adrenaline injections trying to revive a dying patient...it is IMPOSSIBLE for today's low rates to last....lenders WILL DEMAND higher rates soon before lending us money. At 5% (which like I said is low....only about 10 years ago I was getting a CD at 7%...ah the good old days), and thanks to Obama DOUBLING our debt by the time he leaves at $20 TRILLION, that means the interest ALONE on that debt will be $1 TRILLION PER YEAR. Now, for all you Obama supporters (who complained about Bush's spending, but ignore Obama's DOUBLING of the debt)....please tell me what else we could be doing with $1 TRILLION PER YEAR instead of pissing it away on interest... ![]() The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism.But under the name of 'liberalism',they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program,until one day America will be a socialist nation,without knowing how it happened - Norman Thomas,6-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America The federal government has taken too much tax money from the people,too much authority from the States,and too much liberty with the Constitution - R. Reagan |
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I'ts not about consecutive negative growth.. it's about going negative. Remember the negative represent a period of 3 months.. not a second, minute, day, week or even month. |
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To the republicans---do you want cuts to federal spending?
Never argue with idiots. First they bring you down to their level, then they beat you with experience.
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Why would capitalism provide many jobs when your fellow is just waiting there to punish them to pay for your trillion dollar social programs that are the primary cause of the deficit? What we don't have cuts in is the Democrats $300 billion a year Medicaid program that goes straight to the deficit. Last edited by Krazen1211; 01-31-2013 at 06:15 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
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