Refurbished Lenovo IdeaTab S2109 9.7 Inch Dual Core 16GB Tablet Android 4.0 $161.40 Shipped At Lenovo

Looks like it's back in stock. I was able to add to cart but I'm not buying one since I bought Thursday.

Quote from Kryspie : No tablet is really meant for "power users" Im starting to understand the need and the market for a "Second screen" its a cool feature. But not something that should be priced above or close to a laptop, thats insane. Two, we're in 2013, and we're taking tech OUT of tablets that we had since the beginning? Why? Because Apple and Google marketing says so? That's outrageous. Users want more options to get media from A to B, not less. If they're gonna take shortcuts, the prices should fall accordingly. Google takes tech out and then give a BS marketing spin basically saying users are too dumb to handle multiple SD cards so we took care of the problem and now no more SD card..... .....Oh but make sure to move all your media to Google Drive and if you have more than 5GB then we want more money now too.

I agree that it's a dumb move to reduce connectivity options. I have always liked the Toshiba Thrive because of it's numerous ports and easily removable battery. I really don't understand why all modern tablets don't have a standard number of connections. I understand Apple likes to keep their devices sleek and pretty, but I'd hate to have to carry around dongles and adapters in order to use an iPad the same way I can use a Toshiba Thrive. That's a major reason I'd never buy an iPad for more than around $50.

Quote from Kryspie : No tablet is really meant for "power users" Im starting to understand the need and the market for a "Second screen" its a cool feature. But not something that should be priced above or close to a laptop, thats insane. Two, we're in 2013, and we're taking tech OUT of tablets that we had since the beginning? Why? Because Apple and Google marketing says so? That's outrageous. Users want more options to get media from A to B, not less. If they're gonna take shortcuts, the prices should fall accordingly. Google takes tech out and then give a BS marketing spin basically saying users are too dumb to handle multiple SD cards so we took care of the problem and now no more SD card..... .....Oh but make sure to move all your media to Google Drive and if you have more than 5GB then we want more money now too.

Some tablet users may want more options, but most people who use a tablet don't need more options and don't care about more options. They just want something simple that works. They don't care about a bunch of ports. If they want a bunch of ports, they can go buy a laptop. Google and Apple dictate a lot of things that go on in the market for their own business reasons, this happens in lots of other tech ecosystems. This is not an outrageous concept. The tech market has always been filled with endless BS marketing spin. This is nothing new, welcome to 2013.

Quote from pcorlatan : I agree that it's a dumb move to reduce connectivity options. I have always liked the Toshiba Thrive because of it's numerous ports and easily removable battery. I really don't understand why all modern tablets don't have a standard number of connections. I understand Apple likes to keep their devices sleek and pretty, but I'd hate to have to carry around dongles and adapters in order to use an iPad the same way I can use a Toshiba Thrive. That's a major reason I'd never buy an iPad for more than around $50.

It's two-fold. It's design, and licensing. According to these links here...

http://electronics.stackexchange....happens-to


http://www.embeddedrelated.com/us...1682-1.php


....if you're building a device that uses an SD card. Then you have to pay the license fee to the "SD card association/group/whatever"



So the top manufacturers do away with the SD card once they gain marketshare, and then spin the BS about how it not needed.

The Toshiba Drive ALWAYS peaked my interests, "if I wanted a tablet" i would have picked the T Drive for its expansion slots, and its accessory kits are cheap and easy to get online as well.


I was also pointed in the direction of the Asus Transformer, but it seems just a bit too pricey for my needs right now. (I couldnt see myself using it for more than a toy and maybe had potential in my backpack to replace my laptop for when I go outside and hit various wi-fi spots.)

But now in 2013, without knowing the exact specs of the device, im afraid it could be lagging behind today's dual and quad core tablets.

I agree with the majority of what you said but it doesn''t make what they are doing right.

Quote from Crustan : Some tablet users may want more options, but most people who use a tablet don't need more options and don't care about more options. They just want something simple that works. They don't care about a bunch of ports. If they want a bunch of ports, they can go buy a laptop. Google and Apple dictate a lot of things that go on in the market for their own business reasons, this happens in lots of other tech ecosystems. This is not an outrageous concept. The tech market has always been filled with endless BS marketing spin. This is nothing new, welcome to 2013.

Come on now. you're gonna pay $200+ for a device, you dont want at least HDMI? The portability of the tablet is one of the main selling points. We're getting to the point were a household will have a laptop AND tablet, now to get basic functionality I should just stick with laptops. Google marketing would hate you. Apple will try to sell us an overpriced Macbook Air in comparison, for twice the cost.

This is gonna be another debate thats gonna classify Apple (and now even Google) fans as dumb, while the power users end up looking more savvy and again get more tech for less money.

Link, please?

Quote from GnatGoSplat : I wonder if it would be worthwhile to drop an extra $60 and get a quad core China tab with Retina display.

Its even running the bleeding edge of android!

Quote from Kryspie : It's two-fold. It's design, and licensing. According to these links here... http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/5628/do-i-need-to-pay-royalties-to-the-sd-card-people-if-my-device-just-happens-to http://www.embeddedrelated.com/usenet/embedded/show/81682-1.php ....if you're building a device that uses an SD card. Then you have to pay the license fee to the "SD card association/group/whatever" So the top manufacturers do away with the SD card once they gain marketshare, and then spin the BS about how it not needed. The Toshiba Drive ALWAYS peaked my interests, "if I wanted a tablet" i would have picked the T Drive for its expansion slots, and its accessory kits are cheap and easy to get online as well. I was also pointed in the direction of the Asus Transformer, but it seems just a bit too pricey for my needs right now. (I couldnt see myself using it for more than a toy and maybe had potential in my backpack to replace my laptop for when I go outside and hit various wi-fi spots.) But now in 2013, without knowing the exact specs of the device, im afraid it could be lagging behind today's dual and quad core tablets.

I don''t think paying $3k/yr is a big deal for Apple/Lenovo or any other company.
The real motive is profit in charging huge money for extra memory.

It is back in stock, i just ordered one , thanks OP!

Quote from pcorlatan : Looks like it's back in stock. I was able to add to cart but I'm not buying one since I bought Thursday.

It was back in stock, lol

Quote from rkn : I don''t think paying $3k/yr is a big deal for Apple/Lenovo or any other company. The real motive is profit in charging huge money for extra memory.

Confuse users and offer higher internal storage units at a higher price point???. Its almost evil...Google, what happened to you???

Quote from Kryspie : I agree with the majority of what you said but it doesn''t make what they are doing right. Come on now. you're gonna pay $200+ for a device, you dont want at least HDMI? The portability of the tablet is one of the main selling points. We're getting to the point were a household will have a laptop AND tablet, now to get basic functionality I should just stick with laptops. Google marketing would hate you. Apple will try to sell us an overpriced Macbook Air in comparison, for twice the cost. This is gonna be another debate thats gonna classify Apple (and now even Google) fans as dumb, while the power users end up looking more savvy and again get more tech for less money.

The iPad is a huge seller. The iPad costs much more than $200. The iPad does not come with an hdmi or usb port. Therefore, most people don't care about an hdmi or usb port on a tablet. If an hdmi and usb port were such crucial features, these devices would not sell well. This is just one example, there are a many more.

Quote from Crustan : The iPad is a huge seller. The iPad costs much more than $200. The iPad does not come with an hdmi or usb port. Therefore, most people don't care about an hdmi or usb port on a tablet. If an hdmi and usb port were such crucial features, these devices would not sell well. This is just one example, there are a many more.

Sincere question. What IS crucial when buying a tablet?

Quote from yyd_iris : Link, please?

http://dealsprime.com/nextway-f9x...et-pc.aspx