HD 7970 From $370 after MIR, HD 7950 From $275 after MIR, HD 7870 From $209 after MIR, includes games

Quote from swingking03 : Anyone have any predictions on where the price of the 7950 might drop to after the release of the new cards (next month?). Trying to decide of I should pull the trigger onthis game deal or just wait for a price drop.

It took many months after the 7000 series was released before I started seeing significant price drops on 6950s.

Also the rumor for the 8000 series is supposed to be rebadged 7000 cards for OEMs. So its alot more than 2 months for next gen cards.

Quote from BeCy : It took many months after the 7000 series was released before I started seeing significant price drops on 6950s. Also the rumor for the 8000 series is supposed to be rebadged 7000 cards for OEMs. So its alot more than 2 months for next gen cards.

Yes, for OEMs... this is what both companies do. The new cards, whenever they come out, will be common architecture, but more efficient, and rumor is, lower price points.

Quote from swingking03 : Anyone have any predictions on where the price of the 7950 might drop to after the release of the new cards (next month?). Trying to decide of I should pull the trigger onthis game deal or just wait for a price drop.

New cards aren't coming out next month, and there are even rumors they're moving release to Q4 2013. AMD exec says "middle of the year" and my gut says that sounds likely - Intel is set to release Haswell at that time and it would make sense for AMD to try and get some new parts out there for upgraders and new system builders.

As for price drop, not sure if we're going to see anything dramatic for a while - AMD made it pretty clear that they're sticking to their plan of adding value through use of game bundles. Personally I think ~$250 AR, games or no, is the ideal killer price for 7950. The longer they wait to do this, though, the less cards they'll sell as people begin to hold out for the new stuff. Ditch the games, go ~$250 AR and sell 'em til they're gone...

Quote from BeCy : Also the rumor for the 8000 series is supposed to be rebadged 7000 cards for OEMs.

Not so - you're thinking of the mobile lineup, not discrete desktop GPUs.

Quote from JoJoDaClown : Yes, for OEMs... this is what both companies do. The new cards, whenever they come out, will be common architecture, but more efficient, and rumor is, lower price points.

Correct, but the higher end new architecture AMD cards will be later than 2 months supposedly Q4

Quote from toolio20 : Not so - you're thinking of the mobile lineup, not discrete desktop GPUs.

Yes so. The rebadged is for Desktop and Mobile

Quote : AMD Desktop Radeon 8000 OEM Series GPU Specification Comparison The Radeon HD 7000 series isn’t going anywhere in the retail market

http://www.anandtech.com/show/657...s-for-oems

Quote from BeCy : Yes so. The rebadged is for Desktop and Mobile

Again, no, not so.

Your statement makes is sound as if the 8000 series will simply be rebadged/tweaked 7000 series hardware. Not true. And irrelevant - I'm pretty sure next to no one is interested in putting an OEM graphics solution in their gaming rig (unless it was some fluke of incredible price/performance which is unlikely based on the intrinsic nature of OEM parts) so including these parts in a discussion about consumer graphics cards is silly.

The Sea Islands series most of us associate with "HD 8000" will be second generation GCN architecture, whereas GTX 700 series looks to be a refresh/tweak of GK114.

Quote from toolio20 : Again, no, not so. Your statement makes is sound as if the 8000 series will simply be rebadged/tweaked 7000 series hardware.

You are free to dispute Anandtech.

Myself and others consider it to be a reliable source of hardware news.

However I trust their reporting especially considering Anands source
http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/A...ummary.pdf

Which is a rebadged 7950 boost being called a 8950 boost

I really wish AMD didn't name them this way since it's can be confusing to many people, but it is what it is and that's what their OEM partners want.


The cards most of the enthusiast care about is most likely Q4. (could be called 9000 series)

Quote from BeCy : You are free to dispute Anandtech. Myself and others consider it to be a reliable source of hardware news. However I trust their reporting especially considering Anands source http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/A...ummary.pdf Which is a rebadged 7950 boost being called a 8950 boost I really wish AMD didn't name them this way since it's can be confusing to many people, but it is what it is and that's what their OEM partners want. The cards most of the enthusiast care about is most likely Q4. (could be called 9000 series)

You're just not getting it.
You keep talking about OEM parts. If you truly believe AMD will release what all of us here are interested in as the 9000 series then make that your sticking point, but don't muddy up the waters by equating GCN2 cards with these OEM variants.
Stop.
Please.
You need to look for information on Curacao. That's a freebie. Quit talking about OEM parts and stay on topic.

Wow, hate it when these pretty-good deals start showing up on video upgrades only 6 months after I've built a system that I deluded myself into thinking was fairly future-proof. My 6-core AMD box is running two 6870's in crossfire on a 1080p monitor---more than adequate for most games, but I suspect swapping in a single 3Gb 7950 should give me noticeably better performance at full resolution (without the occasional SLI image glitchiness) and, I'm betting, probably somewhat less power consumption/heat than two 6870's. But the deal would probably have to drop closer to $200 to make me think about biting.

Quote from toolio20 : You're just not getting it. You keep talking about OEM parts. If you truly believe AMD will release what all of us here are interested in as the 9000 series then make that your sticking point, but don't muddy up the waters by equating GCN2 cards with these OEM variants. Stop. Please. You need to look for information on Curacao. That's a freebie. Quit talking about OEM parts and stay on topic.

Lol read the last sentence of my previous post.

Quote from ktg : Wow, hate it when these pretty-good deals start showing up on video upgrades only 6 months after I've built a system that I deluded myself into thinking was fairly future-proof. My 6-core AMD box is running two 6870's in crossfire on a 1080p monitor---more than adequate for most games, but I suspect swapping in a single 3Gb 7950 should give me noticeably better performance at full resolution (without the occasional SLI image glitchiness) and, I'm betting, probably somewhat less power consumption/heat than two 6870's. But the deal would probably have to drop closer to $200 to make me think about biting.

Mmm, I don't know.

Seems that older series (6000 and below) aren't having the same driver troubles with the artifact/flicker issues as the GCN 7000 series cards, so there's always that.

I think you're better off waiting for the 8000 series (or 9000 or whatever they're going to call it, which is apparently super important to some idiots) GCN2 cards and a solid driver re-write before you consider upgrading. Of course that may come as soon as this summer, or possibly as far off as fall, no way to know at this point.

Enjoy what you've got for now and game on...

I just about of the pny gtx 670 a couple day ago from ncix for $260 AR, the fan is loud just as expected from review. I can put up with it buy wearing a headphone. PLease advise if I should return the 670 and get the shappire hd 7950 instead. Thank you very much

i bought the gigabyte 7970 on thursday. chatted this morning and they gave me the free games too thankfully...

Quote from BladeD : Had this card in my cart for awhile and got a nice surprise today!

Haha, same for me.

I was just waiting for a Crysis 3 deal, then they added Bioshock Inf to seal it.

Quote from kkid : I just about of the pny gtx 670 a couple day ago from ncix for $260 AR, the fan is loud just as expected from review. I can put up with it buy wearing a headphone. PLease advise if I should return the 670 and get the shappire hd 7950 instead. Thank you very much

Having a quite card is important to me. If it was me I'd return it. But each to their own.