Dell XPS 12 Convertible Ultrabook Tablet -Refurbished-$831 + tax FS

ahhahha...the right question would be "how do they do it"

that is, how to crap money for 1000+ refurbished laptop!

Quote from deymayor : are people here all of a sudden crapping money??? $1000+ for a refurbished ultrabook can't be slick.

Not everyone on SD buys things just because they go on sale. Some of us need these items for work, or businesses and simply have keywords to alert us when certain products go on sale. I've been watching this Dell for months. Now might be a good time to buy it.

Probably better off buying lenovo yoga 13 new at this price point

Just bought one. Will be here next week. Thanks!

Quote from GoldenTiger : This, just got an X230 Tablet convertible with that and MUCH better specs than these Dells, for $664 shipped + tax. This deal is fairly cool. X230 Tablet has full-speed HD4000, and i5, plus user-replaceable RAM/SSD/etc. and Wacom digitizer + pen.

where?

Beginner question: Other than being refur vs new - How are these different than the ones Dell has on their website that say they are expected to ship on March 26th?

Quote from yarnim : cant believe they came back with xps DUO's design again. so stupid and worthless.

I looked at the Yoga before I picked this up a while back. The The Verge [theverge.com] had most of the new convertible laptops reviewed and out of all the designs to me this was the best.

I bought the original Duo for my sister a couple years ago when it was $300 refurbished and my main complaint was the battery life and the fact that it had no video out. They kinda fixed that with the XPS 12. The weight is half of what it was with the original Duo and much more powerful than the Atom processor.

The design that the yoga has, where the laptop folds in reverse is the most practical and I've seen it on a lot of convertible laptops- not a fan of the exposed keys on one side though- even though they are disabled. There's the detachable keyboard design which to me is meh, same with the 180 degree twisting screen. Also there were drawbacks with that slider design that the Sony Duo uses
http://www.cnet.com/laptops/sony-...77656.html
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/1...11-review/

Arguably the "flipping" screen that Dell uses provides the most "wow" factor. It would take you longer to fold the yoga laptop in reverse w/ both hands than it does to just flip the screen on the XPS12 with one hand.

But they had to sacrifice .7" to do this- since the XPS 12 is almost identical to the XPS 13. The dimensions are the same- but the XPS 12 has more bezel around the screen and so the screen is 12.5 inches.

Turns out for me the 12.5 inch screen is too small to do work on all day and so I had to get an external monitor. I would have picked up the Sony Tap 20 which is basically a giant portable 20" tablet- but it is not a 1080p screen and that was the only reason I picked this up. Panasonic also has a prototype 20" tablet but they made it 4k res which is too much for me...

I got one... hope it's a good one! I did get a notebook years ago that had intermittent crashes and got it replaced. I always wondered what they did with that.

Question: I see that this does not have an ethernet port. I will want a faster connection. Any suggestions? I'm leaning toward this:
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabit-Eth...r-mr-title

Quote from gubbar : where?

lenovo outlet

I think a lot of people are dramatizing the difficulty of changing out the SSD. As long as you have the right bits, it takes less than five minutes to swap it out; all without stripping any threads.

Quote from TidalWaveOne : I got one... hope it's a good one! I did get a notebook years ago that had intermittent crashes and got it replaced. I always wondered what they did with that. Question: I see that this does not have an ethernet port. I will want a faster connection. Any suggestions? I'm leaning toward this: http://www.amazon.com/Gigabit-Eth...r-mr-title

I picked up these two

USB 2.0 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
http://www.monoprice.com/products...1&format=2

Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
http://www.monoprice.com/products...1&format=2

Monoprice is usually the cheapest for any kind of cables or peripherals. But I honestly haven't used the usb ethernet adapter more than a couple times. If your router is supports N wifi then its fast enough- even G wifi is faster than my ISP's capabilities. Unless you are doing a lot of uploading internally on your network (moving large files >1GB between two computers on your network) you probably wouldn't need this ethernet adapter.

The DisplayPort adapter however, you would need if you want to hook up this laptop to your TV or external monitor.

damn.. bought it 2 months ago at retail price..

great ultrabook none the less

Quote from vandetta : I picked up these two USB 2.0 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter http://www.monoprice.com/products...1&format=2 Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter http://www.monoprice.com/products...1&format=2 Monoprice is usually the cheapest for any kind of cables or peripherals. But I honestly haven't used the usb ethernet adapter more than a couple times. If your router is supports N wifi then its fast enough- even G wifi is faster than my ISP's capabilities. Unless you are doing a lot of uploading internally on your network (moving large files >1GB between two computers on your network) you probably wouldn't need this ethernet adapter. The DisplayPort adapter however, you would need if you want to hook up this laptop to your TV or external monitor.

Thanks. I think I want a USB 3.0 Gigabit ethernet adapter though. The Mini DisplayPort adapter is pretty slick having 3 output options on the one adapter. I think I'll get a couple of those.

I do like Monoprice!

Quote from gubbar : where?

I've seen more than one person on SD post about that X230, and they are in no way giving any sort of unbiased opinion. It's just the typical "I bought it, so that means it's better" garbage you constantly see on the internet.

They state that the X230 is "much" better when 1) It doesn't have the tablet functionality of the XPS 12, 2) It has a 1366 x 768 screen as opposed to 1080p, 3) They come with Windows 7, not Windows 8 (Win 8 Pro costs extra,) 4) the "standard" models of the X230 do not come with SSD's, and 5) It's not even possible to get a 256gb SSD on the x230, the highest it goes is 180gb.

An x230 with 8gb RAM, i5 CPU and 180gb SSD comes out to a little less than $1,400 new. The XPS 12 that I got today with 8gb RAM, i5, 256gb SSD, 1080p screen, and the functionality to use it as a tablet was $1,125 shipped.

It is definitely true that there are multiple X230's on the Lenovo Outlet site for around the $700 mark. ALL of those laptops, have 4gb of RAM, non-SSD hard drives, a 1366 x 768 screen. And they can't "transform" into tablets. There is one on there that's an i5, 8gb RAM, Windows 7, and a 500gb SATA drive for $1,175. And again, it's a 1366 x 768 screen. I do not see in any way how ANY of the X230 configurations are "much better" than the XPS 12 configurations.

So if that's a laptop that makes people happy, fine. So be it. But for people to run on here and act like that laptop is "much" better than the XPS 12 is ridiculous. If you aren't interested in the higher resolution screen/tablet functionality/SSD features of the XPS 12, then yes obviously something cheaper like the Lenovo could be right for you. But don't act like just because you don't care about those features, that they're worthless.