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My 4yr old was left at his dad's home w/ a 10 and 8 yr old...what do I do?

1,203 2,929 February 18, 2013 at 08:39 PM
sorry people. I never venture into the Lounge, but I figured this was worth the question. My son is four and his dad and I have been split up/divorced for 3 yrs+. we have split custody and trade off every other week. we live in TX.

My son told me that he was left at home with the other two boys that live in his home that are 10 and 8 (ex lives with his GF and her 2 kids)

I am thinking of getting a lawyer and taking him to court for child endangerment.

I can understand maybe a 13+ yr old watching some other kid but not 10 and 8. They have no knowledge of CPR, first aid, calling 911 in a panic, fire danger, not answering the front door.

Any thoughts, suggestions? I am kind of scared of turning his dad in, as to what can happen on the weeks I dont have him, but I feel helpless putting my son in that situation.

I called my ex and he admitted they left them but "only for a few mins, and it wasnt my concern on the weeks that arent mine"

(please excuse the typing as my s and w key are busted, so I have to cut and paste. )
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02-18-2013 at 08:43 PM.
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Still upset he dumped you 3 years ago huh?
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02-18-2013 at 08:45 PM.
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Still upset he dumped you 3 years ago huh?
and.... we're off....
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02-18-2013 at 08:50 PM.
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I say keep calling the dad over and over and nag him about it until he admits what he did was wrong.
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02-18-2013 at 08:51 PM.
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4 yr old seems awfully young to be left at home unattended by an adult or much older kid.

10 and 8 are fine left at home alone for a short time but 4 is young to be left in their care.
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02-18-2013 at 09:04 PM.
02-18-2013 at 09:04 PM.
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Still upset he dumped you 3 years ago huh?
wow you're so cool....thanks for helping me with my child's well being...

...and I divorced him
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02-18-2013 at 09:15 PM.
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sorry people. I never venture into the Lounge, but I figured this was worth the question. My son is four and his dad and I have been split up/divorced for 3 yrs+. we have split custody and trade off every other week. we live in TX.

My son told me that he was left at home with the other two boys that live in his home that are 10 and 8 (ex lives with his GF and her 2 kids)

I am thinking of getting a lawyer and taking him to court for child endangerment.

I can understand maybe a 13+ yr old watching some other kid but not 10 and 8. They have no knowledge of CPR, first aid, calling 911 in a panic, fire danger, not answering the front door.

Any thoughts, suggestions? I am kind of scared of turning his dad in, as to what can happen on the weeks I dont have him, but I feel helpless putting my son in that situation.

I called my ex and he admitted they left them but "only for a few mins, and it wasnt my concern on the weeks that arent mine"

(please excuse the typing as my s and w key are busted, so I have to cut and paste. )
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02-18-2013 at 09:36 PM.
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I was certified in first aid & CPR when I was 10. I knew how to dial 911 when I was about 5 and always knew to not answer the front door. Dontknow

I'm not saying what he did was necessarily right but the fact that you're ready to run down to the courthouse over it suggests there's more to the story. look around
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02-18-2013 at 09:37 PM.
02-18-2013 at 09:37 PM.
Quote from aemcgee :
sorry people. I never venture into the Lounge, but I figured this was worth the question. My son is four and his dad and I have been split up/divorced for 3 yrs+. we have split custody and trade off every other week. we live in TX.

My son told me that he was left at home with the other two boys that live in his home that are 10 and 8 (ex lives with his GF and her 2 kids)

I am thinking of getting a lawyer and taking him to court for child endangerment.

I can understand maybe a 13+ yr old watching some other kid but not 10 and 8. They have no knowledge of CPR, first aid, calling 911 in a panic, fire danger, not answering the front door.

Any thoughts, suggestions? I am kind of scared of turning his dad in, as to what can happen on the weeks I dont have him, but I feel helpless putting my son in that situation.

I called my ex and he admitted they left them but "only for a few mins, and it wasnt my concern on the weeks that arent mine"

(please excuse the typing as my s and w key are busted, so I have to cut and paste. )
I am sorry to hear your son was left alone like that. You as a parent must always keep your child safe. Since you're X thinks that when your son is with him you have no say, He is an idiot. I would call child protective services and let them hear from you're son what happened. That is Child Endangerment. If you lived in Oregon I would have to call and report this since I work for a College and the State of Oregon has instituted a Mandatory Reporting for anyone working for the State or Schools. I know it might be hard for you but Yes talk to your lawyer about getting full custody.
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02-18-2013 at 09:44 PM.
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Not endangerment so much as neglect. OP, you don't need a lawyer. Family court recognizes single parents cannot afford them. Most courts have downloadable filing forms and free info on their websites.

I would have called the police and filed a report. But that's just me. Not over CPR or how to call 9-1-1 but because they could've let a stranger in - that sort of thing. There's a reason the American Red Cross now certifies babysitters.
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02-18-2013 at 09:56 PM.
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Still upset he dumped you 3 years ago huh?
Wow. Just wow. OMG


OP, LC2 is right, this is neglect, but, in my state at least, it is very much considered a form of abuse. Contact your local CPS or Family Court and find out how the law reads in your area. Here, children under the age of 12 are not supposed to be left alone. Let your ex know what you find out and NEVER be scared about protecting your child. Don't "cry wolf", but don't not speak up either. it is better to be a squeaky wheel than to endanger your child.
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02-18-2013 at 09:58 PM.
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02-18-2013 at 10:07 PM.
02-18-2013 at 10:07 PM.
I think a mature 10 and 8 year old could watch out for their sibling for a short amount of time. But I'm one who expects a lot of responsibility out of children. Did you even try to discuss with your ex the exact length of time and the maturity of the boys he left your son with, without accusing him of neglect or endangerment?

I mean if it's one incident you could ask politely that it not happen again...but it sounds like you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Because you want to go after him immediately with court...why not just try talking about it calmly...

But I guess I'm not an over protective parent like most are these days.
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02-18-2013 at 10:18 PM.
02-18-2013 at 10:18 PM.
Your legal counsel, should you choose to pursue this, would probably have a hard time trying not to laugh at the massive amount of legal fees it would cost you to ultimately not accomplish anything. There's no documentation, there hearsay is weak at best (not to mention the fact that hearsay is inadmissible), nothing that your child or any of the other children involved would be admissible, so literally there's nothing you could prove even IF this was a problem.

It most certainly IS your concern, even though it's not your week, and you can impress that upon him, but you have to weigh if that added drama and stress on your kid is worth it. I don't know your situation, so that's your choice.



tl;dr, this will result in 0 legal consequences outside of your paid legal fees.
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02-18-2013 at 10:20 PM.
02-18-2013 at 10:20 PM.
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I can understand maybe a 13+ yr old watching some other kid but not 10 and 8. They have no knowledge of CPR, first aid, calling 911 in a panic, fire danger, not answering the front door.
A 10-year-old doesn't know how to use a phone to call 911? Heck, being 2013, I'm a little surprised the 10 and 8-year-olds don't have their own cell phones.

The 10-year-old doesn't know to keep the door closed? Wouldn't he keep it closed if for no other reason than because his parents tell him to?

I mean, plenty of 10-year-olds do a lot of "adult" things (both good and bad). If one doesn't know to call 911 or keep a door closed.... I am guessing this one actually does know such things. Would hope so.

I'd ask your son how long "a few minutes" was. If it was indeed "a few minutes," then I think it is being blown out of proportion. If "a few minutes" was five hours, that's a little different.

Either way, I'd have a few words to say about being told "it's not my concern on the weeks that aren't mine." It's your son. Of course it's your concern. And if the ex is smart, he'd be apologizing more than anything.
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