32GB Sony Class 10 SDHC Memory Card (SF32NX/TQ) $15 + Free Shipping

Quote from debonas : No. These cards are not at par with Sandisk Class 10s. I have had this card on my dslr and I am so pissed . In fact I also used one of these in my Sony RX100 and boy, it sucks.

He asked whether it will be fast enough for his camcorder. He did not ask if it will be on par with Sandisk cards. You're not answering his question.

have you people who claim that this card can't record 60p hd video, tried it? or are you just guessing? i have read megabits are different then megabytes, and even a class4 card can record full hd 60p.

Quote from stettin : Ah, good explanation. I guess I should do some benchmarking on that transcend card.

BTW crystal diskmark 3.0.2 shows SEQ read 16MBps, Write 11MBps

Quote from dealsaregood : have you people who claim that this card can't record 60p hd video, tried it? or are you just guessing? i have read megabits are different then megabytes, and even a class4 card can record full hd 60p.

Exactly. Unless hacked most cameras will not need more than a class 6. Even a professional camera doesn't use more than that. A hacked Panasonic or Canon camera can go up to 140Mb/s though which is 17.5MB/s which would need a class 17. The rating doesn't go that high.

Just got one for my Canon DSLR....upcoming vacation photos!

Bought several for my laptops. It's like having a second hard drive!

C2D laptop, 60GB ssd, 32gb sdcard... awesome! I don't feel like I'm short on space at all anymore.

I think the deal is dead. I tried to order and it doesn't move.

Quote from sklar : From someone who actually owned early beta and vhs, and early blu-ray and hd-dvd....and I still remember exactly how things were and am not reading stuff off of wikipedia... The beta format had a very slight advantage in terms of video quality at its 60 minute setting. With the longer time recording, the picture quality advantage went away. There was absolutely, positively no 'far superiority' involved. The beta cost too much and sony kept getting beaten by vhs's longer recording times. Sony screwed up because they were stubborn and stupid. As far as blu-ray, I also have a different memory of how things rolled out. Blu-ray is considered by many experts to be a giant steaming pile. The "win" is hard to find, since adoption of the players in homes has been extremely slow, until it recently became not much more expensive to buy a BR player than a dvd. Glacial speed of adoption of the media, and general impression that an upscaled dvd is almost as good for most people equals less a case of "getting it right" and more than the hd-dvd crew really weren't behind it and abandoned it. So it was more of a win by weak attrition than a win of technical and marketing prowess. It does seem that things are improving for them as far as this memory card. Ten or fifteen years ago Sony would have sold this inferior product for 2x the price of the superior sandisk card, and people would have bought it with Apple-like excitement. I'd expect Sony and Panasonic and maybe Nintendo to be gone in a year or two.

Uhh...sorry to say but my info did not come from wikipedia! I was in the video production industry (videographer for 7+ years) until 2001 and know for a fact that the beta format as far as video reproduction and picture quality is concerned, is far superior to VHS and S-VHS formats. Thus every non-film video production company, news stations, tv, etc, pre-1999~ish shot with Betacam and didn't give a rats a$$ about S-VHS. So maybe it is you who did a little "google" research and came up with whatever you said?

Quote from ym73 : I actually don't think bluray will be around very long either. I use my bluray player more for streaming movies then playing blurays.

XBOX 720 and PS4 say otherwise.

Quote from generic808 : Uhh...sorry to say but my info did not come from wikipedia! I was in the video production industry (videographer for 7+ years) until 2001 and know for a fact that the beta format as far as video reproduction and picture quality is concerned, is far superior to VHS and S-VHS formats. Thus every non-film video production company, news stations, tv, etc, pre-1999~ish shot with Betacam and didn't give a rats a$$ about S-VHS. So maybe it is you who did a little "google" research and came up with whatever you said?

I agree. I remember seeing video from Betamax compared to VHS and it was way better. Betamax also had stereo sound when it first came out whereas VHS did not so there was a big difference there as well. If you look up the specs I can't remember, but there was a reason why Betamax had so much better quality video and audio. Whether it was due to greater number of tracks, resolution, or whatever, I can't remember the details. Don't quote me on that one, I just remember reading about why and the technology behind the Betamax was far more advanced than VHS.

Quote from stevenq : XBOX 720 and PS4 say otherwise

It's the last gasp of physical discs. Even they both expect more online content than disk based. Computers still had floppy drives long after most people stopped using them.

Solid state media will replace fragile disks in just a couple years for the few things we like in physical media form. (When it's just as cheap to make flash as blueray discs of the same capacity.)

How would this be for a D3100 shooting 720p video?

is this fast enough to play hd movies on tv?

Quote from generic808 : Uhh...sorry to say but my info did not come from wikipedia! I was in the video production industry (videographer for 7+ years) until 2001 and know for a fact that the beta format as far as video reproduction and picture quality is concerned, is far superior to VHS and S-VHS formats. Thus every non-film video production company, news stations, tv, etc, pre-1999~ish shot with Betacam and didn't give a rats a$$ about S-VHS. So maybe it is you who did a little "google" research and came up with whatever you said?

I always like it when people pretend they had some sort of background that they never had. But if you are an expert, go over and fix the wikipedia entry, although its been pretty well set for about 5 years now.

Picture quality

When Betamax was introduced in Japan and the United States in 1975, its Beta I speed of 1.5 ips offered a slightly higher horizontal resolution (250 lines vs 240 lines horizontal NTSC), lower video noise, and less luma/chroma crosstalk than VHS, and was later marketed as providing pictures superior to VHS's playback. However the introduction of Beta II speed, 0.8 ips (two-hour mode), to compete with VHS' two-hour Standard Play mode (1.3 ips) reduced Betamax's horizontal resolution to 240 lines.[3] The extension of VHS to VHS HQ increased the apparent resolution to 250 lines so that overall a Betamax/VHS user could expect virtually identical luma resolution and chroma resolution (≈30 lines) wherein the actual picture performance depended on other factors including the condition and quality of the videotape and the specific video recorder machine model. For most consumers the difference as seen on the average television of the time was negligible.
Another improvement would be SuperBeta (sometimes called High Band Beta) in 1985. SuperBeta allowed for a gain of 20% to 290 lines in horizontal resolution and some mechanical changes to reduce video noise but Betamax's American and European share had already dropped to less than 10% of the market."

Every other source says the same thing, and as I mentioned, I was in the store buying them, comparing them side to side and owned them both. The betamax had better PQ in 1 hour mode. Past that, they were about equal. Nobody used 1 hour mode on either recorder technology that much. Even comparing the best PQ options, the beta format was only marginally improved and the difference was probably not evident to most.

Why did production companies use them? Because the tape and the recording devices were somewhat smaller and easier to handle. Not because they had better PQ, because as we already covered...it doesn't.

So sadly, your ~25 year old recollection sucks, and you're wrong. But it was fun to see a sony fanboy in the wild. I thought they were extinct.

Quote from Nausicaa : I think the deal is dead. I tried to order and it doesn't move.

Nope ... just ordered without problems.