PRICE DROP: 2013 Nissan Leaf Electric 5-Seat Car Now As Low As $18800 CA, $15800 CA+SJV, $17300 IL, $16300 GA, $15300 CO, $13800 WV and Others // $12 to fill "tank"

I've been looking into leasing a 2013 Leaf S for a week or so now and I just wanted to let people know about some of the interesting items I found about it. First, the S version does not have (and can not have) cruise control. I drive the highway a lot and this would be a huge pain for me. Secondly, it does not have and can not have CARWINGS. This isn't too big of a deal, but connecting to your car from your phone is one of the neat things about the Leaf I liked. The S also does not have B Mode Regen braking, a hybrid heater or a nav system. None of these things are really all that important, but I'm just shocked that a $28,000 car does not have cruise control as standard. Did that really save them that much money? I'd much rather have cruise control then heated outside mirrors (Which come standard)

Also has anyone been able to get a Leaf Lease deal (2012 or 2013) in Florida? The dealers around here (Tampa) seem very unwilling to negotiate. You combine that with the fact that just about every Florida dealer charges a "Doc Fee" of at least $499 (can be $799+)and it just about kills any 24 month lease deal you can get.

Lastly, on the argument of an electric car being practical, I agree and disagree. Yes, an electric car (at least the Leaf) can not be your only car if you live anywhere but a big city. Nissan does offer rental cars for longer trips, but that is a pain in the butt. However, as a second car that is only used as a commuter car I think it's a great idea. I live in an area where electric is relatively cheap (most expensive is .11/kWh) and the leases out there make it cheaper for me to lease a Leaf then to continue driving my SUV which is paid for but only gets 15-16 mpg. I also have a 10kw solar panel system which powers almost my whole house (2840 sq ft) which make the electric car an even better investment.

Went to the dealer this afternoon what a farking waste. Rude and uninterested people working there. Aside from not have any 2013 on hand they had no information on them. I got the leaf " expert" sales person and they were a joke. I knew about as much as she did. They were totally unaware of the national $199 lease program. Took about 35 mins for them to work up a quote for me with $0 down. And when they came back they said that the monthly pmt with $0 down was going to be $350 at first. After much arguing an questioning her manager came up. I told him no way these are right figures. After about 30 minutes arguing with him I left still no convinced his figure of $315 a month is right.

I ran the lease special through a lease calculator at edmunds. 7% Tax

The $7,500 federal tax credit is very discriminatory. I'm 59 retired with very little taxable income in fact I will pay $0 in Federal tax for 2012.
They way I understand this, I would receive $0 in federal tax credit if I purchased this car? Correct?

Quote from fredstone : ____________________________ 30kW/h * $0.10 kW/h = $3 Say a range of 100 miles is $3 a charge; to compare to gas car multiply by 4 = $12 for 400mi. Gas car goes 400 mi. a tank full. 400 / 25 * $4 = $64 for 400mi. Fuel Cost [LEAF] 75000mi / 100 * $3 = $2250 [GAS CAR] 75000mi / 100 * $16 = $12000

Hi, can you indicate where you see that the 2013 Leaf has 30kW/h battery?
Everywhere I look, I only see reference to a 24kW/h battery.

Thanks.

I got an offer in Georgia for $219 + Tax, $0 down for 24months lease, is it a better deal?? my only suspicion regarding state tax is will i get $5,000 tax credit from state government?? It is so confusing..,

Quote from Firebird72 : The $7,500 federal tax credit is very discriminatory. I'm 59 retired with very little taxable income in fact I will pay $0 in Federal tax for 2012. They way I understand this, I would receive $0 in federal tax credit if I purchased this car? Correct?

fed is a non-refundable tax credit offsets tax liability an accountant my be able to shift things in your favor. maybe a lease is better to get the credit in some people's situation.

Quote from koby007 : Hi, can you indicate where you see that the 2013 Leaf has 30kW/h battery? Everywhere I look, I only see reference to a 24kW/h battery. Thanks.

is 24kW battery charging is 80% eff @ 120v or 90% eff @ 240v hence I indicated 30kW per charge of energy use

Quote from nevish : I got an offer in Georgia for $219 + Tax, $0 down for 24months lease, is it a better deal?? my only suspicion regarding state tax is will i get $5,000 tax credit from state government?? It is so confusing..,

Check with your local dealer, Nissan USA, or your State govt. Every State is different: some require a certain trim level, others a certain lease term, and some require nothing. It is possible the dealer is rolling the State credit into the lease. Looking at the lease special on the Nissan website it mentions a 36mo lease term. It is confusing if one does not get things in writing so ask for things in writing to be able to negotiate.

Quote from damage : depends on who your utility is and if you use less than ~400-450 kwh/month. for sf bay area (normal plan): http://www.pge.com/myhome/myaccount/charges/

Yep, I have pg&e and the tiered rates you linked to. In the 4-5 months during the warm weather, I hit tier 4 rates every month by about the 3rd week. Electric car would push me into tier 4 by the end of the first week or so, and I'd be at 34c/kwr for the rest of the month. Not going to work for people who get stuck with the tiered rates.

Averages statewide don't function well due to the differences in climate. Half the people in the state live in areas that need little a/c. Half live in places where its 95+ for 3-4 months of the year.

Quote from sklar : Yep, I have pg&e and the tiered rates you linked to. In the 4-5 months during the warm weather, I hit tier 4 rates every month by about the 3rd week. Electric car would push me into tier 4 by the end of the first week or so, and I'd be at 34c/kwr for the rest of the month. Not going to work for people who get stuck with the tiered rates. Averages statewide don't function well due to the differences in climate. Half the people in the state live in areas that need little a/c. Half live in places where its 95+ for 3-4 months of the year.

If I had free electricity at home to charge, is this car worth leasing in california? I would not benefit from the federal tax credit, but I would the state.

Essentially I'd be saving at least $50 a month in gas, making this car around $150 a month versus a gas car, with the first year being FREE. (Not to mention MUCH lower maintenance on this brand new EV)

I guess what I'm asking is, what kind of gas car can I find for $100 a month?

Quote from dcpoor : the faster 6.6 kwh charger is an additional $1,300 on the S model.

Not to mention you may have to re-wire your home to support the charger if you have an older home...ha ha. Which can cost a few thousand dollars extra.

Just wanted to let everyone know my dealership has just recieved 5 LEAF's that are available now in the bay area. Feel free to send me a message if you'd like to deal with me =)

Signed a lease offer for 208.64 per month for 24months with 0 down, 0 first month payment, 0 tax and title

Does anyone have information on the @ home charging station rebate someone mentioned?

Is this it http://www.afdc.energy.gov/laws/law/US/10513 ?

In for 3. Ty.