PRICE DROP: 2013 Nissan Leaf Electric 5-Seat Car Now As Low As $18800 CA, $15800 CA+SJV, $17300 IL, $16300 GA, $15300 CO, $13800 WV and Others // $12 to fill "tank"

Quote from EddieLasVegas : I like the look of the Leaf, but if you are in the American Southwest this is probably not the car for you. It seems our long hot (very, very hot) summers are h_ll on these batteries. Eddie

Agreed. See http://www.wiltingleaf.com

Quote from stevinp : Not one Chevy volt has ever caught fire during normal use or in an accident(or any other electric car for that matter). If you have some facts that say different please post the link. The Volt was also conceived "prior" to the government bail out. The Volt uses the gas engine to recharge the batteries, so it has about 4x-5x the range of the Leaf. Which one is better for you depends on how far you need to drive. If you can get by on 60-70 miles a day then the Leaf I am sure would be great. But you are not taking it when you need to drive a couple hundred miles, so you would need another car for that. Or you could just buy a Volt and you are good for both situations. I have seen the volt on the road and I think it is a nice looking car. If they could get the price down another 5-6000 dollars it might be a good buy.

As far as I have read, you are absolutely correct about that snotty little "fire" comment. Two fires, neither from customer cars, and they figured out what the problem was and recalled existing cars to institute a fix to prevent them in the real world. Basically, after a significant collision, the batteries can ignite well after the fact (weeks later!) if certain procedures are not carried out. If this information is wrong, I'm all ears, but there's nothing to be found in a google search about Volt fires that isn't over a year old and related to a known (and fixed) issue.

As for your description of the Volt, I don't believe the onboard generator ever actually charges the batteries, it will primarily just power the electric motor that moves the vehicle directly, and in some very specific instances the engine will directly power the wheels via the transmission (though only at highway speed, IIRC, and this is something that's not well known). And of course the range of the Volt is not a multiple of that of the Leaf.... it can go as far as you want it to, as long as you keep gassing it up. Now, whether or not the fuel mileage it achieves in gas-only operation is anything to get excited about is another question, and the answer is "no". But at least the option is available to you, and you will never have any "range anxiety", worrying about running out of juice and being stuck.

If you plan on doing significant highway driving on a regular basis, neither the Leaf or the Volt, or ANY electric, is the car for you. Get a diesel.

Zero-emission vehicle except for the coal-fired power plant used to produce the electricity that charges the battery. (I'm definitely not against the coal-fired power plants, just pointing out the fact that zero-emission vehicles are not as environmentally "perfect" as they sound.)

Quote from wavetwister : $21,300 after tax credit

rtp

Quote from roltzje : Its a nice price drop but I had to downvote your post because of how you wrote it... seriously. While its nice to give us information on it, all you did was try to sound like a gimmicky salesman. You highlighted the torque, because the horsepower is low. Worst of all, you mentioned MULTIPLE times that its made in Tennessee.. which has nothing to do with the product that youre getting.. you made no mention of other important factors of the vehicle other than the engine related parts.

Whatever, just posted clips from the press release I think they were pointing to it now being made domestically as the reason for the new lower pricing. Horsepower is some arbitrary number that indicates how hard one must rev a gas engine to get the maximum torque out of it. 187 lb-ft. of torque is quite good for a car of this size, economy, and class and is available immediately.

I work at a Nissan dealership (bay area if anyone is looking for a slick deal) and Nissan is making an S model this year, while last year they only had an SV, and SL. So the more basic model does make it much more affordable!

I am leasing one for my commute (10 miles each way), and its great for that. However, I'd say if you can't live with a 70mi range (35mi radius), this car is not for you.

will this change color in Autumn ?

Quote from De-Cuss : will this change color in Autumn ?

haha nice.

still not good enough imo, I wouldn't even be able to drive to and from school (55 mi, mixed) without risking the battery going dead before I go home

this car is only suitable for grocery shopping in your local town

Quote from wowyahoo : The people who TD work for the oil companies

I wish

Did anyone mention HDMI, Bluray, Ipad, Resolution, Plasma, Android, Lcd, DLP, OBAMA, Romney or anything else.

So I get a charging station at my home... cool. So now I drive to work (55 miles) and the closest charging station is about a mile away. So I pull in for a charge... they charge for how long you charge... so I need to leave work after a couple of hours, go pull the plug and then drive the car back to work.

Not very convenient at this time. Pass.

Quote from trza : It's nice knowing that I'll be paying for somebody else's Leaf until I die. If they were such a good deal, we wouldn't have to subsidize them.

You do understand that petroleum is the most subsidized energy in us history? Including Trillion $ Wars.

Quote from moremoney : What will it be worth 5 years from now when it needs new batteries along with depreciation and better tech out there? In the meantime, the taxpayers have paid a lot to subsidize it.

and 96 months/100,000 miles Lithium-Ion Battery coverage (whichever occurs earlier). http://www.nissanusa.com/electric...e/battery/

Quote from smr13 : Zero-emission vehicle except for the coal-fired power plant used to produce the electricity that charges the battery. (I'm definitely not against the coal-fired power plants, just pointing out the fact that zero-emission vehicles are not as environmentally "perfect" as they sound.)

They are targeting hybrid car marketing I am thinking. Coal steam turbine power is much cleaner than the internal combustion engine and the petroleum footprint it uses; think barging petroleum across an ocean that was pumped from ground in the middle east. Then one can also use Solar, Wind, Hydro, and Atomic electric power to charge their car as well.

Quote from smr13 : Zero-emission vehicle except for the coal-fired power plant used to produce the electricity that charges the battery. (I'm definitely not against the coal-fired power plants, just pointing out the fact that zero-emission vehicles are not as environmentally "perfect" as they sound.)

...and add to that the irony that CA gives a huge discount...but no one in CA pays 10 cents a kwh either. Try TRIPLE that.

Leave it to the government to kill cheap electricity (read: nuclear) and then pay to subsidize people to drive electric cars.

I drove a hybrid for 10 years and it cost me 1.5 gallons to go 100 miles ($6). Without solar, that's cheaper than paying for electricity on a Leaf thanks to Grey Davis.

I think the Leaf is an awesome car. I drive a Ford Focus Electric, but I would gladly buy a Leaf as well.

Adding a nice solar array for your home is a bit better than the "coal-fired power plant" used to power all electric cars...