Sid Meier's Civilization V (PC Digital Download) $6

Quote from mason202 : Does this game have co-op vs ai? can me and a friend 2v2 against the ai?

yes it does, my roommate coerced me into getting it just a week ago so we could play over lan. Now this deal pops up, lol.

Quote from sidomate : I was addicted to Civ2 in high school, and really havent played a PC game since. Thinking about jumping back in with this. How long does it take to learn how to play Civ5? Does it take a ton of man hours before the gameplay is completely mastered?

Civ IV complete is a better deal. I think it costs around $10-15 now. Games typically take anywhere from 3-15 hours. Civ V is fun too, but they dumbed things down in an attempt to broaden the appeal of the franchise.

Does this work on Macs?

Quote from devils6889 : Does this work on Macs?

Yes. I did it. Order it, and gamefly will send you a code in the confirmation email. Go directly to steam powered.com and download the game with the code. Downloaded perfectly to my mac. I did not use the gamefly downloader at all.

Quote from rking0122 : Yes. I did it. Order it, and gamefly will send you a code in the confirmation email. Go directly to steam powered.com and download the game with the code. Downloaded perfectly to my mac. I did not use the gamefly downloader at all.

Awesome, thank you!

Quote from rking0122 : Anyone know of any good deals for the Gods and Kings expansion? I can't find one anywhere right now. Thanks in advance!

It pops up on Steam during their seasonal sales quite frequently now. I got the game, maps, G&K, soundtrack, etc. for $15 over winter break. You really need G&K though as religion is a very fun mechanic to play with. I just wish there was some type of "Faith Victory" for some of the new nations that get +Faith bonuses.

Thanks! In for one

FP? This is like $1.50 less than what it has gone for *multiple* times in last few months. Search the history. And as someone pointed out, you'll want the G&K expansion immediately, it "fixes" some of the problems of this game, so you're actually better off getting one of the steam package deals to get them both, if you've waited this long anyway.

Quote from 8thMan : Civ IV complete is a better deal. I think it costs around $10-15 now. Games typically take anywhere from 3-15 hours. Civ V is fun too, but they dumbed things down in an attempt to broaden the appeal of the franchise.

Concurr with assessment that Civ IV >>> Civ V. Civ IV is an all-time classic IMO, just as significant as Civ I. But you can actually get it cheaper, I've seen the "complete" for $7.50 or less many times.

Quote from puddnhead : Concurr with assessment that Civ IV >>> Civ V. Civ IV is an all-time classic IMO, just as significant as Civ I. But you can actually get it cheaper, I've seen the "complete" for $7.50 or less many times.

Civ IV is more fun but in a different way - it's also far less realistic. You can just run around with 50 tanks stacked on top of each other and rampage through enemy countries.

In Civ V, armies actually look like armies, and positional strategy actually matters.

Quote from Ducman69 : I'm a huge Civilization fan, but 4 is better... whaaaat? I promptly uninstalled Civ4 w/ BTS when Gods and Kings came out, but like I played Civ4 modded I prefer Civ5 Gods and Kings with Civilization Nights, a full transformation pack: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedf...d=77097295 (over 1000 average perfect 5* review) Civ5 vanilla is not the same game in any way shape or form to Civ5 Gods and Kings + Civ Nights. Its like comparing a cloth seat base Mustang V6 with a GT500... same base, but you certainly can't judge the latter by driving the former.

can you go into a little detail about why you are recommending this mod? I followed your link but as someone who has never played Civ 5 much, that list of changes doesnt mean much.

Quote from Simca : Civ IV is more fun but in a different way - it's also far less realistic. You can just run around with 50 tanks stacked on top of each other and rampage through enemy countries. In Civ V, armies actually look like armies, and positional strategy actually matters.

Well, you have 50 tanks "stacked" in an area equal to the size of an entire city. I don't see how if you are attacking a city that needing to have your archers coming from a different direction on the map from say your mace men is more "realistic".

Civ V is fun, but it has LESS strategy than IV (which some may prefer). Just go to the CivFanatics forums and read what those who own both have to say.

Quote from Simca : Civ IV is more fun but in a different way - it's also far less realistic. You can just run around with 50 tanks stacked on top of each other and rampage through enemy countries. In Civ V, armies actually look like armies, and positional strategy actually matters.

1. There is a counter to that in IV, collateral from using catapult/treb/cannon/artillery/anti-tank/bombers)

2. Civ IV isn't (and never had tried to be, til V) a war strategy game anyway.

3. I'm actually a big fan of the Panzer general style hex warfare that the Civ V designers admitted they were inspired by. I played dozens (hundreds?) of hours of PG II back in the day. But most people who've played this agree they didn't get it right. In particular, the AI was dreadful at knowing how to play under these rules (Civ IV AI is not the sharpest knife in the drawer either, but leaps and bounds better than V ... at least last time I played it).

If you care most about the tactical warfare strategy, then either Civ game (IV or V) is probably not for you. I just think that Civ is a game meant to abstract everything (lets face it, economy, religion etc are hardly "realistic" either). And if you absoutely have to try to make some aspect of the game more "realistic" (a POV that Civ IV designer Soren Johnson disagrees with, btw -- there are great interviews out there where he talks about weighing every game mechanic through the prism of "fun," over "realism"), the tactical warfare part is a dubious choice to focus this effort in a game like Civ, IMO. Anyway, this is a topic for another thread (and forum). Just wanted to give a different POV on things.

I just got Civ 4 during Steam's X-mas sale. I've barely put a dent in it. I guess I'll wait until there's a SD on Civ 5 and Gods/Kings and then add that to my Steam collection.