Macbook Pro Retina 13" 256GB 2.5Ghz i5 Refurb $1359 Apple Store

Quote from garycoleman : I would like to buy this but I just spent $2000 on a purse for my g/f for valentines day.

Wow. Just wow. No one on this website should be paying even 10% of what you just paid for a stupid purse.

$2,000 for a purse? Really? Have you completely lost your mind?

Just wondering how many people actually use MBP's for coding? If so, which platform, OSX dev, .NET dev, other do you use. I think I read previously that most people get macs because you can only code OSX stuff on macs. You can easily run windows on a mac, but it's much much harder going the other way from running a osx on a windows pc. One thing that worries me about macs is that the screens are very reflective. I'm not a big fan of that, but I've never had to deal with it, so maybe it won't be that much of an issue. I hear that the screens resolution works really well for coding too.

I keep telling myself that I would like to one day, play around with coding for OSX, but that may not be until later this year or the next. I'm definitely a procrastinator

I currently use my work laptop HP EliteBook for coding of course and surfing at home. I don't have a dedicated laptop at home. I guess I never needed one. My wife has an older Thinkpad T60 that I had to upgrade the ram and ssd, but that's for her and she just does mainly surfing, but also does some photoshop type stuff re-imaging pics now and again, but that laptop is getting a bit older as I bought back in 2008 or so.

I've always been surprised at the prices of macs, but they must be worth it for people to keep buying them, or maybe its just a trend thing. My cousins has macs and they mainly use for surfing and so that is just ridiculous to spend that much on a laptop to surf imo. But I see alot of developers with them, so they must be good. I know since this is my career, it makes sense to invest in a good laptop for coding and other stuff. I like how the newer laptops allow you to use it as a laptop as well as switching to a tablet with touch. I didn't get to play long, but the Lenovo Yoga was pretty cool and I see how people like the Dell X12 flip screen too. Not sure if those laptops/tablets are powerful enough to code and surf/stream with. I won't be playing games on there so it doesn't have to have the best graphics or screen, but seeing how if I get a new laptop, it's probably better to get a good screen with at least 1080p.

Quick question, if you have to remote onto a server for work, a Windows Server machine, how do you do it on a mac? I'm assuming there is a tool to allow you to remote into a server, but I was wondering if you had to run a program like parallels (I think that is what its called) that you would have to run windows first before remoting into the other server?

Thanks and sorry for the questions but just wanted to get peoples opinion about coding and streaming on macs vs other windows laptops.

Quote from kikkoman : I know since this is my career, it makes sense to invest in a good laptop for coding and other stuff. I like how the newer laptops allow you to use it as a laptop as well as switching to a tablet with touch. I didn't get to play long, but the Lenovo Yoga was pretty cool and I see how people like the Dell X12 flip screen too. Not sure if those laptops/tablets are powerful enough to code and surf/stream with. I won't be playing games on there so it doesn't have to have the best graphics or screen, but seeing how if I get a new laptop, it's probably better to get a good screen with at least 1080p. .

If you want a real tablet , I'd recommend the Fujitsu Lifebook T902

Quote from garycoleman : I would like to buy this but I just spent $2000 on a purse for my g/f for valentines day.

I would of just bought her a knock off for 50 bucks and she would never have know the diference...

Just bought one. I was going to wait for the new version thats out in June, but I think I'd still get back what I paid today in June.

Why would I pay for something that:
has a integrated graphics to drive a 2560 x 1600 screen
too thick to be an ultrabook
too weak to be a normal laptop
used
more than $1300

Quote from kikkoman : Just wondering how many people actually use MBP's for coding? If so, which platform, OSX dev, .NET dev, other do you use. I think I read previously that most people get macs because you can only code OSX stuff on macs. You can easily run windows on a mac, but it's much much harder going the other way from running a osx on a windows pc. One thing that worries me about macs is that the screens are very reflective. I'm not a big fan of that, but I've never had to deal with it, so maybe it won't be that much of an issue. I hear that the screens resolution works really well for coding too. I keep telling myself that I would like to one day, play around with coding for OSX, but that may not be until later this year or the next. I'm definitely a procrastinator I currently use my work laptop HP EliteBook for coding of course and surfing at home. I don't have a dedicated laptop at home. I guess I never needed one. My wife has an older Thinkpad T60 that I had to upgrade the ram and ssd, but that's for her and she just does mainly surfing, but also does some photoshop type stuff re-imaging pics now and again, but that laptop is getting a bit older as I bought back in 2008 or so. I've always been surprised at the prices of macs, but they must be worth it for people to keep buying them, or maybe its just a trend thing. My cousins has macs and they mainly use for surfing and so that is just ridiculous to spend that much on a laptop to surf imo. But I see alot of developers with them, so they must be good. I know since this is my career, it makes sense to invest in a good laptop for coding and other stuff. I like how the newer laptops allow you to use it as a laptop as well as switching to a tablet with touch. I didn't get to play long, but the Lenovo Yoga was pretty cool and I see how people like the Dell X12 flip screen too. Not sure if those laptops/tablets are powerful enough to code and surf/stream with. I won't be playing games on there so it doesn't have to have the best graphics or screen, but seeing how if I get a new laptop, it's probably better to get a good screen with at least 1080p. Quick question, if you have to remote onto a server for work, a Windows Server machine, how do you do it on a mac? I'm assuming there is a tool to allow you to remote into a server, but I was wondering if you had to run a program like parallels (I think that is what its called) that you would have to run windows first before remoting into the other server? Thanks and sorry for the questions but just wanted to get peoples opinion about coding and streaming on macs vs other windows laptops.

My Macbook dual boots OSX and Windows 7. Apple makes this easy - look up something called Bootcamp. There are also easy ways to remote into Windows boxes even without Bootcamp.

I boot into OSX for XCode and iOS development. I boot into Windows 7 for most activities including .net and Java/Android development.

Even when I'm not doing iOS development, I exclusively use Windows 7 on a mac. The hardware really is that much better. Other manufacturers compete on price by skimping on quality. I don't want to make that sacrifice - development is my living.

The superior trackpad is worth a few hundred dollars by itself to me.

Quote from Mydiscover : I would of just bought her a knock off for 50 bucks and she would never have know the diference...

even a fake will cost several hundred dollars.

Most girls can spot a fake one a mile away. My g/f even taught me how to.

This is soo tempting... I want to sell my air for this...

Quote from garycoleman : even a fake will cost several hundred dollars. Most girls can spot a fake one a mile away. My g/f even taught me how to.

yup.. now-a-day 2k for a bag is normal... you're a sweet guy..

Quote from kikkoman : Just wondering how many people actually use MBP's for coding? If so, which platform, OSX dev, .NET dev, other do you use. I think I read previously that most people get macs because you can only code OSX stuff on macs. You can easily run windows on a mac, but it's much much harder going the other way from running a osx on a windows pc. One thing that worries me about macs is that the screens are very reflective. I'm not a big fan of that, but I've never had to deal with it, so maybe it won't be that much of an issue. I hear that the screens resolution works really well for coding too. I keep telling myself that I would like to one day, play around with coding for OSX, but that may not be until later this year or the next. I'm definitely a procrastinator I currently use my work laptop HP EliteBook for coding of course and surfing at home. I don't have a dedicated laptop at home. I guess I never needed one. My wife has an older Thinkpad T60 that I had to upgrade the ram and ssd, but that's for her and she just does mainly surfing, but also does some photoshop type stuff re-imaging pics now and again, but that laptop is getting a bit older as I bought back in 2008 or so. I've always been surprised at the prices of macs, but they must be worth it for people to keep buying them, or maybe its just a trend thing. My cousins has macs and they mainly use for surfing and so that is just ridiculous to spend that much on a laptop to surf imo. But I see alot of developers with them, so they must be good. I know since this is my career, it makes sense to invest in a good laptop for coding and other stuff. I like how the newer laptops allow you to use it as a laptop as well as switching to a tablet with touch. I didn't get to play long, but the Lenovo Yoga was pretty cool and I see how people like the Dell X12 flip screen too. Not sure if those laptops/tablets are powerful enough to code and surf/stream with. I won't be playing games on there so it doesn't have to have the best graphics or screen, but seeing how if I get a new laptop, it's probably better to get a good screen with at least 1080p. Quick question, if you have to remote onto a server for work, a Windows Server machine, how do you do it on a mac? I'm assuming there is a tool to allow you to remote into a server, but I was wondering if you had to run a program like parallels (I think that is what its called) that you would have to run windows first before remoting into the other server? Thanks and sorry for the questions but just wanted to get peoples opinion about coding and streaming on macs vs other windows laptops.

Quote from mikebpi : My Macbook dual boots OSX and Windows 7. Apple makes this easy - look up something called Bootcamp. There are also easy ways to remote into Windows boxes even without Bootcamp. I boot into OSX for XCode and iOS development. I boot into Windows 7 for most activities including .net and Java/Android development. Even when I'm not doing iOS development, I exclusively use Windows 7 on a mac. The hardware really is that much better. Other manufacturers compete on price by skimping on quality. I don't want to make that sacrifice - development is my living. The superior trackpad is worth a few hundred dollars by itself to me.

I specifically use my MBP for coding purposes, which I primarily do PHP/Java coding through NetBeans. I also have VM Fusion setup with several virtual machines, each development environment (typically SUSE) I work with as well as a Windows OS.

That having been said, there are proprietary applications I work with which I have to use a provided Windows laptop for (Dell, ugh) but this can be easily circumvented by using Synergy as a virtual KVM and only using the Dell when I have to.

I highly recommend coding on a MBP as compared to Windows, I've always felt there is more control and a much, much better command line interface with the UNIX base. The one thing I suggest though is not to buy into the new MBP line. I hate to say it, but I feel like they really killed part of the 'pro' crowd by not being allowed to update the machines myself. Everything being soldered/glued in place really kills it. I currently run a 17" 2011 MBP and love it, I've changed out the HD for a 500GB SSD, the RAM for 16GB and am more than happy with performance. Not being able to make these updates in the case of HD or RAM failure/upgrade is a very disappointing step.

Quote from swa2k4 : To the Mac haters lol ... I will be selling my Mac laptop for 200 less than I paid 1.5-2 years later. You will be throwing your PC in the trash.

Who is buying a 2 year old computer for only 200 less than what you bought it for? Unless you got it at wholesale price I would suspect that's only a 400 savings on the MSRP. So again, who would buy that?

Quote from Clenathan : Who is buying a 2 year old computer for only 200 less than what you bought it for? Unless you got it at wholesale price I would suspect that's only a 400 savings on the MSRP. So again, who would buy that?

People still pay $700 for a refurbished Core 2 Duo based MBP so that wouldn't surprise me

What do you think in terms of extra power this 13" retina has which macbook air can't. Think about it this way.

Refurbished Macbook Retina 13" with 256GB, 8GB RAM for $1359 + $200 for Apple care (3 years warranty)
New Macbook Air 13" with 256GB for $1499, 8GB RAM (2 Yrs AMEX Coverage)

I looked at the CPU benchmarks for both the processors and there is very little difference.

Refurb Macbook pro w/Retina around 3800 whereas Macbook air around 3600

Not to forget the sleekness you get with air.

What are you thoughts about this thinking from developers point of view, who does 30% Coding and 70% other stuff like office, internet etc.