Study Confirms Tea Party Was Created by Big Tobacco and Billionaire Koch Brothers

Quote from joesl8 : Both parties do, they want to control who you marry, what weapons or food you buy, what water you drink, whether or not you have insurance (all of it, health, car, home, etc.). They're the same you see and the older you get and the more you see, the more you realize this!

Who has told you who to marry? Government has told you some of whom you cannot marry.

Same with weapons, food, and water.

More of a limit on what people can profit off of....

No one has told me I must buy home insurance. And I have not.

PPACA proves there is a difference between the parties. The Dems are now where the Reps were 25 years ago.

Quote from 124nic8 : Who has told you who to marry? Government has told you some of whom you cannot marry.

you mean the State.

So the fact that a website was up in 2002 created the whole Tea Party movement?

Quote from hoser83 : So the fact that a website was up in 2002 created the whole Tea Party movement?

it's just more desperate attempts from the left to smear the Tea Party. They tried the lie about them being violent racist terrorists....when they fell flat on their face with those lies, they turned to other smear tactics.

Note how the media pretty much ignored Dorner (the Obama-loving cop who went serial killer in CA)...had he been a TP or militia member, he would be the poster boy for gun control in the media with wall to wall coverage about the violent racists on the right...but because he is a fellow obama-worshiper, the story is mentioned in the briefest of details, and then quickly buried.

When about a dozen OWS thugs were arrested for conspiracy to commit terrorist acts, hardly a mention, if any at all, from the media.....again, had they been TP members, it would have been wall-to-wall coverage.

It's the TP who is reported as violent racists, when it is the OWS thugs who destroyed private property and trashed the streets, and vandalized store fronts, and had dozens of rapes, murders, and arrests at their gatherings, while not a single arrest was made among TP protesters, and they in fact left the parks or wherever they gathered cleaner than it was when they got there.

You have to keep in mind where the leftists and the media are coming from when it comes to ANY stories related to the Tea Party: lies, desperation, and smears.

Quote from Radeck : .... Note how the media pretty much ignored Dorner (the Obama-loving cop who went serial killer in CA)...had he been a TP or militia member, he would be the poster boy for gun control in the media with wall to wall coverage about the violent racists on the right...but because he is a fellow obama-worshiper, the story is mentioned in the briefest of details, and then quickly buried. .... You have to keep in mind where the leftists and the media are coming from when it comes to ANY stories related to the Tea Party: lies, desperation, and smears.

Did you not notice that Dorner was the lead story on all the network broadcasts for at least a solid week until he was killed?

Quote from 124nic8 : Did you not notice that Dorner was the lead story on all the network broadcasts for at least a solid week until he was killed?

but not to the same level he would have been had he been a "right-wing fanatic" and would have been used as a poster boy for gun-control. In fact, their are leftists demonstrating IN SUPPORT of Dorner even now. The media and the left still go on about Timothy McVeigh as a poster boy of how violent and fanatic the right is, but barely mention the dozens of leftists before and after him who did the same and more.

Quote from Radeck : but not to the same level he would have been had he been a "right-wing fanatic" and would have been used as a poster boy for gun-control. In fact, their are leftists demonstrating IN SUPPORT of Dorner even now. The media and the left still go on about Timothy McVeigh as a poster boy of how violent and fanatic the right is, but barely mention the dozens of leftists before and after him who did the same and more.

Wrong. You can't get more attention from the MSM than being the lead story on all network broadcasts.

Your speculation about partisanship is unsubstantiated.

Quote from 124nic8 : Wrong. You can't get more attention from the MSM than being the lead story on all network broadcasts. Your speculation about partisanship is unsubstantiated.

maybe in your own mind it is, but not in mine. Case in point: media commentators say Dorner 'has a point' [breitbart.com] and watching him is 'exciting' [theblaze.com]

Care to point out where this was said about McVeigh or someone like him?

Dorner had a long rambling manifesto where he spews forth is love for Obama and gun control etc....yet that is barely mentioned, compared to supposed 'right wing' manifestos (eg the mass killer Breivik in Norway [guardian.co.uk]) which are dissected word by word....could it be because they deem it harmful to Obama and the message of the left?

Quote from Radeck : it's just more desperate attempts from the left to smear the Tea Party. They tried the lie about them being violent racist terrorists....when they fell flat on their face with those lies, they turned to other smear tactics. Note how the media pretty much ignored Dorner (the Obama-loving cop who went serial killer in CA)...had he been a TP or militia member, he would be the poster boy for gun control in the media with wall to wall coverage about the violent racists on the right...but because he is a fellow obama-worshiper, the story is mentioned in the briefest of details, and then quickly buried. When about a dozen OWS thugs were arrested for conspiracy to commit terrorist acts, hardly a mention, if any at all, from the media.....again, had they been TP members, it would have been wall-to-wall coverage. It's the TP who is reported as violent racists, when it is the OWS thugs who destroyed private property and trashed the streets, and vandalized store fronts, and had dozens of rapes, murders, and arrests at their gatherings, while not a single arrest was made among TP protesters, and they in fact left the parks or wherever they gathered cleaner than it was when they got there. You have to keep in mind where the leftists and the media are coming from when it comes to ANY stories related to the Tea Party: lies, desperation, and smears.

speechless.

Quote from thikthird : speechless.

Its the gish gallop all over again.

Quote from Radeck : maybe in your own mind it is, but not in mine. Case in point: media commentators say Dorner 'has a point' [breitbart.com] and watching him is 'exciting' [theblaze.com] Care to point out where this was said about McVeigh or someone like him? Dorner had a long rambling manifesto where he spews forth is love for Obama and gun control etc....yet that is barely mentioned, compared to supposed 'right wing' manifestos (eg the killer in Finland) which are dissected word by word....could it be because they deem it harmful to Obama and the message of the left?

And yet I heard about Dorner's manifesto repeatedly. How is that possible if it were "barely mentioned"?

Obviously you're not watching the same network news broadcasts as I.....

Quote from 124nic8 : Wrong. You can't get more attention from the MSM than being the lead story on all network broadcasts. Your speculation about partisanship is unsubstantiated.

Of course it's substantiated. That's why they liked to edit out the "I love lefties" stuff from his manifesto.

If the guy was a conservative, they would have probably spent two months trying to blame him for spitting on a politician at a rally, or cut half his body off in video and pretend he's a white guy.

Quote from Deusxmachina : Of course it's substantiated. That's why they liked to edit out the "I love lefties" stuff from his manifesto.

You mean "substantiated" like ^ this opinion?

Quote : If the guy was a conservative, they would have probably spent two months trying to blame him for spitting on a politician at a rally.

More unsubstantiated hyperbolic speculation....

Quote from 124nic8 : You mean "substantiated" like ^ this opinion? More unsubstantiated hyperbolic speculation....

You're unsubstantiated.

Lots of people were confused about which manifesto was even real because the "I love lefties" stuff was cut out of it so often. Despite it being headline news for a week, most people still probably don't know the guy was a crazy lefty.