2013 Panasonic 3D plasma 60" TC-P60ST60 pre-order for $1444.99 plus tax via EPP discount P60ST60

Quote from mrnadir : anyone know whats the width of the 65" model?

Dimension of the 65" is:

Dimensions (W x H x D) (w/o stand) 59.1" x 34.7" x 2.0" (General depth: 2.0")
Dimensions (W x H x D) (with stand) 59.1" x 36.9" x 14.2"

I posted this on another thread in case others are looking for other sizes:


Added: TC-P65ST60 EPP $2209.99 [panasonic.com]
TC-P60ST60 EPP $1614.99 NEW lower price now $1444.99 [panasonic.com]
Added: TC-P55ST60 EPP $1274.99 [panasonic.com]
TC-P50ST60 EPP $1104.99 [panasonic.com]

S60 details and EPP prices:
TC-P65S60 EPP $1614.99 65" NEW lower price now $1444.99 [panasonic.com]
TC-P60S60 EPP $1104.99 60" [panasonic.com]
Added: TC-P55S60 EPP $849.99 [panasonic.com]
Added: TC-P50S60 EPP $705.49 [panasonic.com]
Added, they now have a 42"! TC-P42S60 EPP $620.49 [panasonic.com]

After reading they drastically cut R&D to this segment in 2012, I have no interest in the 2013 models. Happy I got in on 2012 model closeouts.

I need a tv stand that can fit these screens inside of them. Something like a 3pc or 4pc set. Can't find anything that would fit a 60" safely AND have a polk cs2 center channel somewhere in there to where its not at an awkward placement. Any ideas? Don't want to have to mount this one as I just took down my pn59d6500 and the holes it left in the wall made me want to not mount my next set

Quote from woomer051 : After reading they drastically cut R&D to this segment in 2012, I have no interest in the 2013 models. Happy I got in on 2012 model closeouts.

wait for a review of the 2013 first kemosabi before labeling your tv better already than this upcoming model lol

Quote from MarkAELSU : I need a tv stand that can fit these screens inside of them. Something like a 3pc or 4pc set. Can't find anything that would fit a 60" safely AND have a polk cs2 center channel somewhere in there to where its not at an awkward placement. Any ideas? Don't want to have to mount this one as I just took down my pn59d6500 and the holes it left in the wall made me want to not mount my next set wait for a review of the 2013 first kemosabi before labeling your tv better already than this upcoming model lol

May want to start twisting others words saying this s60 is practically a u50 . FYI, got the 60" u50 for half this price (will this be half price come Jan 2014?). I love panasonic, I wont compare my model to a V or 2013 Z, just saying that years are numbered. Panasonic really cut R&D because they lost money in the plasma segment. Wouldn't be surpised if there were no 2015 models, I'd be pretty unhappy...............

Forecasting or guessing is risk and reward. Given that 2012 was not a good year, you think they are going to jack up specs and jack up prices, or cut features/models/research and keep the same price?

Currently have a tc-p60u50 ($700), tc-p50gt25 ($900), and LG 60pa6500 ($800) and love all 3. Would love to sell my 50" g for $600 though.

how do you get an epp account without actually working for panasonic? otherwise this deal is a no deal for non-panasonic employees, which most of us are.

Check your corporate perks and/or company purchase programs. I know there was someone on SD that was also offering info on how to get an EPP account without working for a company that offered it.

Quote from woomer051 : After reading they drastically cut R&D to this segment in 2012, I have no interest in the 2013 models. Happy I got in on 2012 model closeouts.

Lol the 2013 sets I.e. the ST60 is better then the VT50. You don't know anything about the 2013 sets. The ZT and VT 60 will have the best picture for 2013 guaranteed

Quote from mrnadir : anyone know whats the width of the 65" model?

According to the Panasonic website, here are the dimensions for the TC-P65ST60::
Dimensions (W x H x D) (w/o stand) 59.1" x 34.7" x 2.0" (General depth: 2.0")
Dimensions (W x H x D) (with stand) 59.1" x 36.9" x 14.2"

Quote from usbfan : Absolutely agree. 3D movies usually look like crap. The only acceptable ones are the cgi's. Having said this, 3d isn't completely dead yet. It really looked good on 4k TV. Contents to be seen.

Disagree , 3d movies are a joy to watch . I would agree that 50 percent of the movies are not made for 3d and do suck. However watching titanic 3d or avatar is a great experience that can be emulated like a movie theater. Better then paying 15 bucks for one 3d movie ticket

Quote from CSIG1001 : Lol the 2013 sets I.e. the ST60 is better then the VT50. You don't know anything about the 2013 sets. The ZT and VT 60 will have the best picture for 2013 guaranteed

I agree the ZT will have the best picture of 2013, not really a point though. Following vt50 and past vt series they ususally get that anyway. Just saying as things marginally improve, people aren't paying enough for it, so its not good for panasonic. VT50's panel may be widely used, but I dread what the new top panels will boast. Won't get in a pissing contest though, already shook it and put it back.

Quote from realdrafonluv : Check your corporate perks and/or company purchase programs. I know there was someone on SD that was also offering info on how to get an EPP account without working for a company that offered it.

Does anyone have a guide on how to get an EPP account for non-Panasonic affiliated employees.

If I didnt just purchase the 60U50 I'd be all over the 65" - good price for a 65"

Quote from CSIG1001 : Lol the 2013 sets I.e. the ST60 is better then the VT50. You don't know anything about the 2013 sets. The ZT and VT 60 will have the best picture for 2013 guaranteed

You had facts on your side don't screw it up wit claiming that the ST60 is better than the VT50 it was and is a great tv and they apparently felt it was good enough to just not offer a gt series. There are still many things that the VT50 has that the ST50 doesn't, not least of course of which is the single pane construction and the Ultra panel.....and THX cert.,24p proper etc.

To the guy who made the "cut funding remark". Is that how they wound up shocking everyone with a ZT series this year? While the VT is still the reference TV the ZT has actually had to be called to "beyond reference" display its so damn good. You should check out on their main site some of the videos of the 2013 unveiling or just read about it, but its drool worthy. They achieved phenomenally higher brightness apparently in part due to the glass actually being fuzzed to the bezel, anyway at one point he actually just says we aren't going to just give up on the best tv tech out there. Congrats on getting a great deal on a 2012 , I did the same and spent less than a thousand on the gt50, it's an amazing deal but that doesn't make the 2013 lineup any less impressive and even better on a direct model per model sale, that said, if you'd have to wait until near 2014 to get as good a deal than don't fret, your tv will be great even if the new equivalent is better. I'm talking to myself too, to accept the great deal on the TV I got and don't let myself be mentally tricked into not being satisfied with anything but the best/most current. I have to keep reminding myself I wasn't even looking for a TV, just doing some market research for a set for my father, then as going to get a 50U50 for the next 400 dollar sale because I just read so much good, then went to on to the st50 because if I am going to make an investment I should do it right and make sure that its got glare reduction and then moved on to the gt50 for thx,shades of gray and if I don't stop I'll have a 2013 w/ 3,000FFD and a 2013 delinquent payment notice to go with it. Anyway sorry for the long post.

Quote from fiveohfour : You had facts on your side don't screw it up wit claiming that the ST60 is better than the VT50 it was and is a great tv and they apparently felt it was good enough to just not offer a gt series. There are still many things that the VT50 has that the ST50 doesn't, not least of course of which is the single pane construction and the Ultra panel.....and THX cert.,24p proper etc. To the guy who made the "cut funding remark". Is that how they wound up shocking everyone with a ZT series this year? While the VT is still the reference TV the ZT has actually had to be called to "beyond reference" display its so damn good. You should check out on their main site some of the videos of the 2013 unveiling or just read about it, but its drool worthy. They achieved phenomenally higher brightness apparently in part due to the glass actually being fuzzed to the bezel, anyway at one point he actually just says we aren't going to just give up on the best tv tech out there. Congrats on getting a great deal on a 2012 , I did the same and spent less than a thousand on the gt50, it's an amazing deal but that doesn't make the 2013 lineup any less impressive and even better on a direct model per model sale, that said, if you'd have to wait until near 2014 to get as good a deal than don't fret, your tv will be great even if the new equivalent is better. I'm talking to myself too, to accept the great deal on the TV I got and don't let myself be mentally tricked into not being satisfied with anything but the best/most current. I have to keep reminding myself I wasn't even looking for a TV, just doing some market research for a set for my father, then as going to get a 50U50 for the next 400 dollar sale because I just read so much good, then went to on to the st50 because if I am going to make an investment I should do it right and make sure that its got glare reduction and then moved on to the gt50 for thx,shades of gray and if I don't stop I'll have a 2013 w/ 3,000FFD and a 2013 delinquent payment notice to go with it. Anyway sorry for the long post.

For bang per buck id pick up a 60" ST60 vs a VT 50 ...
I would say these two sets are equal in performance minus the 24p playback at 72hz . I am pretty sure the ST60 will be a better set then the 2013 VT series.
Thats just the way it goes with technology. I am sure the ST70 and VT 70 next year will be close to on par with the ZT60. I have owned and studies panasonic plasmas since 2006