Lenovo G580 Laptop: Core i3 3120M 2.5GHz, 15.6" 1366x768, 4GB DDR3, 500GB HDD, WiFi N, 6-Cell, Windows 8 $340 + Free Shipping

Charlie • a month ago

Back in 1999, I obtained my MCSE certification through Microsoft. I followed it up with an A+ certification from Comptia. Since that time, I've earned a living as a computer technician.

The introduction of Windows 8 has been an absolute nightmare, not only for me but for my customers. I have actually had business people in tears on the phone, desperate because they absolutely had to get something done, and couldn't figure out how to do it. I sympathize with them; I often couldn't figure out how to do simple, common tasks in Windows 8 either. And I'm not a stupid guy, and I'm by no means technologically illiterate. (I program for fun in VB6 and C++, and am learning Python).

This operating system is a lurching, staggering, vomit-in-your-crotch disaster. Vista and Windows ME were like stupid, illiterate couch potatoes; but Windows 8 is different. Windows 8 is the Adolph Hitler of operating systems. It is drastically, dramatically evil. There isn't any plainer or more accurate way of stating it.

Personally, I've made the decision to transition to Linux. But that path won't work for most of my customers; for them, I'm recommending Apple Macs. This isn't a great solution - Macs are considerably more expensive than Windows boxes - but my customers time is also worth something. If we value their time at as little as $100 per hour, the 20 or 30 hours spent achieving some level of Windows 8 literacy simply isn't worth it. Macs become the cheaper solution.

I'm quite angry with Microsoft for releasing this OS, and all the more so for using their huge worldwide clout to force it into peoples lives. The amount of anguish that they've caused in the lives of common people is truly breathtaking; and I'm certain that they're aware of it, but they simply don't care. And that leaves me coldly furious. There is no measure of corporate responsibility here; indeed, this is the kind of self serving, uncaring behavior more commonly associated with psychopaths.

I'm a techie. I'm a geek. But most people aren't; they use computers as a productivity tool, as a means to an end. Microsoft has decided, for their own self serving reasons, to put the productivity of the planet on hold while people are forced to stop what they're doing, throw out every scrap of computer knowledge they ever had, and learn computers - again - from the ground up.

The arrogance that they've exhibited is staggering. If they lose their position as the dominant software publisher on the planet, it will be no more than they deserve.
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when it comes to returns even if its unopened, you have to do an exchange for OD?

Crappy to game with? Not trying to play anything like crysis on max settings but the ability to play some recent games would be nice

i really wish there were some customer reviews

Might be a dumb question but I don't see the red nub or a touchpad, so how do you control the mouse? Do you need to plug one in?

Not a stupid question at all

The only major differences are essentially the ones you listed - for $40 more you get 2 more GB of RAM, an additional 140GB of HDD space. Other minor things you are getting with the Lenovo: 2 USB 3.0 ports instead of 1, almost an extra hour of battery life according to each manufacturer's spec (not sure how reliable that is), and I believe the Lenovo has better on board graphics? Not certain about that last one though. Then there's overall build quality to consider which I'm not knowledgeable on either but my gut tell's me Lenovo is better than Toshiba when it comes to laptops.

looks pretty good. I wonder how the trackpad is in this thing. I bought a lenovo a few years ago, a G555, I believe. It has been fine, but the touchpad was glitchy, and I've found the wireless card to need a lot of tlc to connect to some networks. So that experience makes me a little bit leery of buying this as an upgrade. showing in stock online still, btw.

I have a lenovo B570 which is somewhat similar, and i LOVE it...great battery , never runs hot....its just a great performer...my specs are the same, 4 gb, 500 , 3 usb ports, lenovo overall is a damn good unit..and i was thru them all , every week getting a new laptop from best buy...loved dell..but the port for the charger was short, so plug was always coming out...hp, runs hot...toshiba, is crap....lenovo proved itself.... go for it....good luck !

You should stop with the generalizations.

I'd consider an HP EliteBook 8770w to be better than the equivalent model by lenovo ( the ThinkPad W530).

Most of the laptops Bestbuy sells are junk. You should buy directly from the company or through a retailer that gives you a better selection ( Newegg or Amazon come to mind).

Lenovo consumer class machines are a disappointment if you used a well built laptop. It's not only the external build quality that matters you know.