LG 1080p 120Hz 3D LED HDTV's w/ 4 Pairs of 3D Glasses: 47" LG 47LM4600 $480 After $100 Rebate, 55" LG 55LM4700 + Soundbar $850 After $150 Rebate + Free shipping

I called customer care of Tiger Direct they asked me to send the screen shot of the email offer or link to the offer to apply $50 credit to my order ... Please share me the screen shot if any of you have it... thanks

Quote from click2siva : Not a Slick Deal Since i got all 3 items for $799 + Tax at FRY's 55" LG 55LM4700 1080p 120Hz 3D Class LED HDTV + 4 Pairs of 3D Glasses LG Bluray Player Soundbar

yup ill take frys over lyger tigect any day.. tigerdirect is just a bunch of cancelling chicken shit asses anyway.. you buy it now then woops order cancelled. way to grow your business.

Quote from fxclm5 : uh im confused as why this is a slickdeal, you guys realize you can pick up the 55" 55lm4600 @ costco, for $699.99, which in turn your paying $150 for a sound bar...... or is it really slick for the 47"???

Wait, Costco has the 55 3d with a sound bar for $700 ? Or are you simply stating the $850 55 from TD is $150 more due to the sound bar being included?

td is $150+ for just a sound bar

Quote from Low8284 : Wait, Costco has the 55 3d with a sound bar for $700 ? Or are you simply stating the $850 55 from TD is $150 more due to the sound bar being included?

I think what he meant was the latter.
LG Model #'s
LS4600 = No 3D, No sound bar
LM4600 = w/ 3D, No sound bar
LM4700 = w 3D & Sound bar

Quote from ChrisP8282 : Anything over 60hz is a gimmick. Why you might ask? Because all source material is broadcast at 60 fps (fps and hz are effectively interchangeable). What this means is these 120 hz sets have to GUESS what to display on every other frame. It's literally impossible to do and approximation is the best that can be done. The only reason for 120hz sets is for active 3D, in which each eye is sent a 60hz signal via the active shutter glasses. Seriously, I just replaced a 7 year old 32" Samsung LCD TV. Motion blur was NEVER a noticeable problem, nor was the fact that it was 720p. Side note: if you plan on sitting more than 10 feet from your TV 1080p is largely useless to, but our videophile and tv manufacturing overlords don't want us to know that.

It's not a "gimmick", and I'm sure your old Samsung displayed it I've never seen a 60Hz LCD that didn't. But to you like many people, the reality is that to our brains that's normal. It's like having a TV with a flashlight issue say up in the upper left hand corner. I can overlook / ignore an issue but if it comes to my attention, I like many others can become hyper-focused on it. That's the way judder is to me, also partly because depending on the source material the "fix" can be less desirable than blur/judder.
A lot of people don't like the 120Hz effect. For most things I don't, but it doesn't mean it's a gimmick, it's an interpolation technique that varies in implementation from TV brand to brand & within those brands from line to line.
Looking at certain videos in 120Hz gives me a sense like I'm in a dream mode, my brain really objects to this, it can feel fake like the characters are floating almost 3D like. But it's all dependent on multiple factors; the content/material and how it was shot etc., and how well the TV handles the material.

But that wasn't the point that person I think was trying to make, and that is that these along with several other LG lines this year are listed as being 120Hz Tru-motion when they are in fact LOCKED @ 60Hz maximum refresh rate on the panels and instead they are attempting to implement a process they call black frame insertion. However given the budget nature of the LED arrays these and the other TVs are not able to even correctly implement a true black frame.
http://hdguru.com/lg-55lm6700-hdt...ated/8281/

Quote from kaorukamui : Anyone know if this has an option to turn it down to 60hz? 120 hurts my brain.

It's not 120Hz... it's locked. Read the above linked article from HDGURU. When they called LG on this B$. And many other consumers complained they added a FAKE ANTI-JUDDER setting in a firmware update but it does not change the TV from a 60Hz locked TV. I don't believe they have issued any such fake firmware setting for these series.

For those dealing with the Active vs Passive debate this is an interesting read:
http://www.displaymate.com/3D_TV_ShootOut_1.htm
http://www.lgnewsroom.com/newsroo...ents/61296
Of course there are those like Joe Kane and one other who uses non-scientific methods to conclude it can't be 1080P but interesting. I find the LG Passive 3D to be better to watch.

Quote from Bdubslawman : It's not a "gimmick", and I'm sure your old Samsung displayed it I've never seen a 60Hz LCD that didn't. But to you like many people, the reality is that to our brains that's normal. It's like having a TV with a flashlight issue say up in the upper left hand corner. I can overlook / ignore an issue but if it comes to my attention, I like many others can become hyper-focused on it. That's the way judder is to me, also partly because depending on the source material the "fix" can be less desirable than blur/judder. A lot of people don't like the 120Hz effect. For most things I don't, but it doesn't mean it's a gimmick, it's an interpolation technique that varies in implementation from TV brand to brand & within those brands from line to line. Looking at certain videos in 120Hz gives me a sense like I'm in a dream mode, my brain really objects to this, it can feel fake like the characters are floating almost 3D like. But it's all dependent on multiple factors; the content/material and how it was shot etc., and how well the TV handles the material. But that wasn't the point that person I think was trying to make, and that is that these along with several other LG lines this year are listed as being 120Hz Tru-motion when they are in fact LOCKED @ 60Hz maximum refresh rate on the panels and instead they are attempting to implement a process they call black frame insertion. However given the budget nature of the LED arrays these and the other TVs are not able to even correctly implement a true black frame. http://hdguru.com/lg-55lm6700-hdt...ated/8281/ It's not 120Hz... it's locked. Read the above linked article from HDGURU. When they called LG on this B$. And many other consumers complained they added a FAKE ANTI-JUDDER setting in a firmware update but it does not change the TV from a 60Hz locked TV. I don't believe they have issued any such fake firmware setting for these series. For those dealing with the Active vs Passive debate this is an interesting read: http://www.displaymate.com/3D_TV_ShootOut_1.htm http://www.lgnewsroom.com/newsroo...ents/61296 Of course there are those like Joe Kane and one other who uses non-scientific methods to conclude it can't be 1080P but interesting. I find the LG Passive 3D to be better to watch.

I think you misunderstood my point. I fully realize how 120 hz TV's function, that was actually my point. Interpolation is a guess, nothing more, as to what comes between each shot frame. Beyond the fact that the image can't possibly be 100% correct, to accomplish this the TV actually buffers the incoming video stream so it has two frames to interpolate. What this means is in instances where you want the most lag free gaming experience, 120 hz televisions can actually hinder gaming. Each set is different and I believe the "Game Mode" on many sets disables the 120 hz functionality.

Oh come on, judder? First off the person would need to own a Blu ray player capable of outputing 24p content. Secondly, beyond Blu ray there is no other source video that 120hz set will correct. Broadcast and gaming both do 60hz signals which judder would still exist regardless of the TV. Beyond judder issues, the human eye can't see much difference at rates above 60 hz anyways, but feel free to Google. It's all over the web.

In regards to my TVs, the only difference I could ever tell between my 32" 7 year old Samsung LCD and my high end 50" Panasonic Plasma and 61" Samsung DLP was black levels and solarization. It had a horrible contrast ratio (a hall mark of it's age) but no, I could never tell a difference in sports nor could I tell a difference in resolution (720p vs 1080p) unless I sat closer than 7-8 feet. I just replaced it with a 43" Samsung Plasma and the black levels are noticeably better and solarization is improved, but still not absent. EDIT: Also add ghosting, another hall mark of it's age, but that has to do with the LCD response time, not the refresh rate of the TV.

In regards to this set, you are correct, it is not a true 120hz set. My point was don't let that deter you from buying it. It's a fantastic set at a great price.

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Don't care much for 3D, though would like to see a good deal for a >60 inch TV.

Any deals for 65 or even 60 inch LEDs. I see so many deals for 55 inch ones.

Quote from click2siva : Not a Slick Deal Since i got all 3 items for $799 + Tax at FRY's 55" LG 55LM4700 1080p 120Hz 3D Class LED HDTV + 4 Pairs of 3D Glasses LG Bluray Player Soundbar

Any idea if they still have this deal? I'm hoping to score the same. It's currently $899 on the website without the blu ray player.

Quote from trdsupragt : Any idea if they still have this deal? I'm hoping to score the same. It's currently $899 on the website without the blu ray player.

dood, this is shameful to be frontpage on slickdeals...... just shameful for the 55"

im not sure about the 47" but the 55" your better bet is to just buy it from costco for $699,
and save yourself $150 for a soundbar

55LM4600 @ costco, bestbuy etc is the same model as the
55LM4700 minus the sound bar

do the research, then come thank me for telling you to save $150 by not buying a stupid sound bar.

Quote from Low8284 : TD is $150 more due to the sound bar being included?

THIS, FYI my costco ran out of stock of the 55LM4600, went to bestbuy and had them pricematch it 2/19/13 - yesterday

i know costco has 2x year warranty, but i got to pay with my credit card @ bestbuy and not my savings account with costco

Quote from jbrown : Throw in the bonus 3% back on Chase Rewards too I am so torn on this set. I've read all the negativity concerning the false claims of 120Hz. This would replace my last CRT set and I had set 1080p and 120Hz as minimum requirements... Can anyone who has this set comment on motion blur? Does the latest firmware help at all?

Quote from ChrisP8282 : Interpolation is a guess, nothing more, as to what comes between each shot frame. Beyond the fact that the image can't possibly be 100% correct, to accomplish this the TV actually buffers the incoming video stream so it has two frames to interpolate. What this means is in instances where you want the most lag free gaming experience, 120 hz televisions can actually hinder gaming. Each set is different and I believe the "Game Mode" on many sets disables the 120 hz functionality. Oh come on, judder? First off the person would need to own a Blu ray player capable of outputing 24p content. Secondly, beyond Blu ray there is no other source video that 120hz set will correct. Broadcast and gaming both do 60hz signals which judder would still exist regardless of the TV. Beyond judder issues, the human eye can't see much difference at rates above 60 hz anyways, but feel free to Google. It's all over the web. In regards to this set, you are correct, it is not a true 120hz set. My point was don't let that deter you from buying it. It's a fantastic set at a great price.

However, I was replying to what you said to jbrown. What he was talking about was what I was pointing out, that it's NOT true 120Hz it's a 60Hz panel.
But then you went on to say it's a "gimmick", by that logic 3D is a gimmick, adjustable back lighting is a "gimmick", those are subjective thoughts & opinions that was my point. It's a feature of televisions that TRULY offer it and this one CLAIMS to offer it and it does not.

When a company lies/deceives it's customers that is never a good thing.
Debating how useful 120Hz is or isn't depends as I said on the person, on the TV set (maker, line) and the content. Blu-ray players that are 24P are common so that's a non issue.
My first TV was an LCD monitor (hd capable) - truly amazing for panoramic nature type shows but poor for action TV or DVD/Blu-ray. The second was a plasma 2006 and the has been the gold standard for everything except weight, thickness, and power consumption . When looking at my LG LD550 on it's own, I love the picture quality and my brain is just fine with what at this point in time it perceives as what is normal viewing. Put it next to the plasma and it's not hard to pick out and see distortions in fast action.

I get that you get how 120Hz works by creating extra frames, but you seem to be focusing on the glass as though it were nearly empty (vs) the glass being nearly full as the quality of the chip / processor that handles the interpreting. By no means is it perfect and some sets / makers \ lines do an awful job of it. That doesn't mean it has no place or improvement in content, not just for 24P content.
There is no doubt there are a huge amount of subjective options that come into play as to whether 120Hz is necessary, improves, or hurts content and to me the quality of how it's done matters greatly, but this statement "Beyond judder issues, the human eye can't see much difference at rates above 60 hz anyways" is another subjective one. I can see the difference watching HD content between the Plasma, the new LCD, and the new LCD w/ 120Hz Tru-motion turned up.

I've left it on (some times intentionally, sometimes not) and had people over to watch a show, movie or they wanted to flip to a game. It's a funny reaction in most people because they start doing all sorts of strange facial and head moves in response. It's anything but undetectable to the human eye (again completely depends on the content) and really how much movement is present.

I'm not knocking the PQ of this TV. My point for writing is, it's a feature, you may think it's a gimmick but so would a lot of people say about any feature they don't use, have or like for example 3D. You may not like it or think it's completely messing up because it's not perfect neither is anything, but when processed correctly it can improve smooth viewing anywhere from modestly to significantly and can match or improve to a plasma 60Hz or better.

The big issue though is that LG is lying and false marketing a feature the TV doesn't & can't posses. I'm not saying that ruins the TV at all. I think most non-sports fanatics are running their truly capable LCD's with 120Hz in standard non-interpolated mode. That doesn't mean what LG did was OK!

does LG 47in tv is better than panasonic 47in E50 series in any way?