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Newegg.com has TP-LINK N600 Wireless N Dual Band Gigabit Router w/ 2x USB Ports (TL-WDR3600) for $68.99 - $15 w/ promo code EMCXVWL24 - $15 rebate = $38.99 with free shipping. Thanks Discombobulated

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Last Edited by The Debater March 20, 2013 at 03:33 PM
Update to latest stock firmware if not planning to use a 3rd party firmware (OpenWrt, DD-WRT). The latest stock version includes several important stability fixes:
http://www.tp-link.us/support/dow...version=V1

Note: flashing to a 3rd party firmware will void your warranty. Proceed with caution. If you follow the directions carefully, you will be fine.


Note also (unsupported 3rd party feature): 3rd party firmware does not currently support the hardware NAT feature of this router and probably will not any time soon. Flashing back to stock will restore this functionality.



This router is the cheapest router to get OpenWRT's newest branch, Attitude adjustment which implements CoDEL a new parameterless bufferbloat solution.

Bufferbloat = latency lag when network approaches full usage.

Example: VoIP, VidChat, gaming, latency sensitive apps start stuttering once that other dude in your house starts his NetFlix streaming. You cry and stop doing what you were doing until he's done. OR you can buy this and setup codel and be happy. ^^

Installing OpenWRT isn't necessarily quite as easy but it's straightforward. If you've installed dd-wrt or Tomato, I have confidence in you that you can install OpenWRT Wink
If you know someone who would probably struggle putting dd-wrt/tomato on a router... don't have them install this. They might mess it up.

Got mine and got OpenWRT installed, so far so good....

Here's what I did (Disclaimer, if you are technically challenged I do not suggest doing this or find the beta builds of DDWRT or Gargoyle):

Original link stopped working here's a new link, if it no longer works see below.
http://downloads.openwrt.org/atti...actory.bin

If that still doesn't work here's the path from the openwrt downloads page.
Attitude adjustment...
12.09-rc1...
Ar71xx...
Generic...
Openwrt-ar71xx-generic-tl-wdr3600-v1-squashfs-factory.bin

1.) Connect an ethernet cable to the LAN side of the router, navigate to 192.168.1.1 (It may be 192.168.0.1). Username is "admin" password is "admin".
2.) Rename your OpenWRT image to "factory.bin". Navigate to the firmware upgrade page and update the firmware with your OpenWRT image.
3.) Once upgrade is done, manually set your computer's IP to 192.168.1.X (whatever you want on 1.X subnet). this step wasn't necessary for me, I got an IP via DHCP right after flashing just fine
4.) Use Putty or some other program to telnet into 192.168.1.1. Type "passwd" at command prompt and set a root password. Type "exit" and get out of the telnet session.
5.) Connect an ethernet cable from your modem to the WAN (Internet) side of the router. The blue port. The router needs internet access for the next step.
5.) Reopen Putty and do an SSH session to the same IP, login as root with your new password. Type "opkg update" and return. Type "opkg install luci" and return. To enable Luci to start on boot, type "/etc/init.d/uhttpd enable" and return and then type "/etc/init.d/uhttpd start" and return. I would also install the Luci qos module, type "opkg install luci-app-qos" and return.
6.) You can now login to Luci via an HTTP interface at 192.168.1.1. Good luck with the rest, just make sure you enable your wifi interfaces and configure them.

NOTE: It has been widely reported that LuCi is already installed and running after the install of OpenWRT. After you do the initial upgrade try navigating to 192.168.1.1 to see if the LuCI interface is up and running. If it is not then you should run through the steps listed above.

7.) Optionally, you may change to a more user friendly interface by installing the bootstrap theme (now available from the software installation function built into the web interface).
Info about bootstrap theme: http://nut-bolt.nl/2012/openwrt-b...-for-luci/
To install: System --> Software --> search for bootstrap in available package --> click install
To activate theme go to: System ---> Language and Style ---> Design ---> Bootstrap Smilie

More info, including instructions for setting up Codel on OpenWrt: https://gist.github.com/petedoyle/4129668. (he does it in a bit more complicated way than necessary, if anyone has easier instructions, please update).
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Gargoyle install: (i.e. the easy way)
If you want the simple method and are ok with a simplified interface then download the gargoyle image here http://www.gargoyle-router.com/do...actory.bin and do the upgrade with that. It already has the GUI installed and running so you can go directly to 192.168.1.1.

Although very functional, Gargoyle is kind of ugly by default, so if you care about that sort of thing, install a theme Smilie

NOTE: Gargoyle does not have all the options that LuCi does, it was designed this way. It has QOS and Codel installed by default. If you don't know why you want all the options available in Luci, then you probably don't need them.
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Here are some other helpful links that I used: bimologist
DDNS Client: http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto...using.luci
OpenVPN Setup: http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/vpn.openvpn
Guest WLan: http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/guest-wlan (non Luci) (I could not get the Luci directions to work)
Guest WLAN via Luci (does not work for some): https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=34092

Instructions for setting up QoS and CoDel for OpenWRT peeps:

Pulled from OpenWRT forums:
Quote :
First of all, the values to enter in the qos configuration are your maximal net bandwidth minus some headroom that qos needs to be effective (I hink this is no longer true for the post-backfire codel-based qos). Especially the upload value needs to be lower than the maximum you observed empirically.
I have a "up to" 16Mbit / 1Mbit line. The observed actual net rates are for me about 12Mbit and 950 kbit respectively. I hence entered this in the qos config
option download 12000
option upload 800
Since you cannot control downstream in a meaningful manner I left it at 12000, but upstream needs the headroom and through testing with simultaneous saturating upload traffic and pings I settled on 800.

I also have this stanza
onfig classify
option target "Express"
option ports "22,5190,5060,5222,19295,19301-19310
where the 19xxx ports are for Google voice and video chats, 5060 is supposed to be VoIP, but I have a hunch that this is only the port for negotiation not payload data. 5222 is XMPP instant messaging.
I'm not sure you can successfully prioritize Skype because Skype hides on port 80 and port 433, which are the usual HTTP(S) ports.
Also see, https://gist.github.com/petedoyle/4129668

To add a USB flash-drive to expand the capacity of your router, follow: http://klseet.com/index.php/tl-mr...ap-extroot

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Quote from Tnyc View Post :
I prefer to have just ONE router that will do its job beautifully and reliably. If you are using two and bridge them, you are not only increasing your electrical usage, you also have to concern about not one, but two separate units now. I just want one one kickass and worry free router where I can plug it in, set it and forget it. It's a residential house, not a business or a mansion so no need for multiple units Smilie. Besides, the rebate is for one/router/address only.
what? did you read what brbubba said?

you're not going to get a crazy amazing single router. there are physical and fcc limitations.

basically if youre current router in the basement doesn't reach the top floor, then a new router won't help either.
just run a second AP. the electrical usage is minimal, and the 2nd unit is a dumb unit. get a cheap junk router and disable everything on it.
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LAN - Jumbo Frames Supported?
Can't seem to find this detail anywhere. I have an open ticket with their support team. Wondering if anyone with one of these can confirm if jumbo frames are supported on the LAN switch side of the router. Ideal would be support for 9k frames but having multiple options is also a plus.
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Thanks OP



Out of the box, this router is nothing to brag about. Add OpenWRT or DDWRT, and all of a sudden its rock solid.
my relative has this out of the box with stock firmware, and it's already rock solid.
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Quote from stopspazzing View Post :
Yes, transfer speeds will be less when using usb 2.0 router than a 3.0, BUT good luck finding one, esp at this price.
The SoC (processor) in any of these home routers is not nearly fast enough to take advantage of USB 3.0. Any current router with that feature is just checking a box for the marketing department.
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Will his help my porn streaming capabilities?
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Will his help my porn streaming capabilities?
Buffering will be great but it wont help with the pixelation of the poor quality videos.

Broke down and bought one of these. I also bought Asus RT-N56U that popped up for $78. I plan on testing both, returning whatever one performs the weakest.
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If it supported Tomato, I'd be in.
Same here... I love tomato...
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Buffering will be great but it wont help with the pixelation of the poor quality videos.

Broke down and bought one of these. I also bought Asus RT-N56U that popped up for $78. I plan on testing both, returning whatever one performs the weakest.
Upgrade the firmware and let us know your results. I'm very interested in moving to the 5Ghz spectrum before AC crowds us in a box.
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Does anyone know the size of the power adapter, I'm looking for physical measurement ID/OD in mm. Thanks!!!

Quote from harshan9 View Post :
So how are Tiplink rebates?? Any chance of getting back?
I had no issue with my last TP-Link rebate. I was very hesitant, both with the rebate and the product... I've been pleasantly surprised by both. I purchased a 24 port gigabit switch and I have not had a single issue with it.

Quote from dealmonkey View Post :
Does this support IPV6? I dont see it on the specs page.
Its was added in the latest firmware from 1-29-13 LINK [tp-link.com]

Quote from Rahr View Post :
Anybody know what receipt you need for the rebate? Does it have to be the invoice that comes with the router, or can I print something from Newegg?
Just print the invoice from the Newegg site. Your package won't arrive with a receipt or an invoice... just a packing slip which is of no use to the rebate process.
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A great deal on a great device. OpenWRT is very powerful on this hardware.

Be aware that TP-Link rebates are glacially slow. I'm still waiting on one I sent to them in December!
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Quote from brbubba View Post :
Used to have the N16. When it has third party firmware it works well, but mine started going wonky after 6 months. Underclocked it and it was back to normal then tried slapping a heatsink on there and somehow hosed it.

Either way, feature wise N16 is a very very old product with outdated features. Can't hold a candle to the 3600 for the price.
Thank you for the response, I've been looking for an 802.11N router for some time now as I am unable to stream from my home server with my old Linksys WRT54G. I jumped on this deal so hopefully it works great with OpenWRT or DDWRT.
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Will the code EMCXVWL24 stack with NEWCUSTOMER?
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Any one know if I will be able to return the router if I am not able to flash new firmware? I have never done anything like it before and don't have much confidence in the stock firmware.
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Buffering will be great but it wont help with the pixelation of the poor quality videos.

Broke down and bought one of these. I also bought Asus RT-N56U that popped up for $78. I plan on testing both, returning whatever one performs the weakest.
I was kidding but I do stream a lot of sports. I feel partially retarded after reading this thread because I have no idea what a lot of people are talking about. I have a Belkin Wireless G router. I guess I have two questions:

1) this should improve video streaming quality in terms of load times and buffering issues.. correct? The Wireless G router works fine now but the signal is a bit weak from my bedroom to living room.
2) Will the signal strength be improved or the same? What are some simple ways to improve the router signal strength?

I apologize for the retard questions but these are coming from a guy who only knows how to fix electronics by unplugging them and plugging them back in. Once that doesn't work, I'm screwed!

Quote from dadab View Post :
Will the code EMCXVWL24 stack with NEWCUSTOMER?
THese types of questions always are a head scratcher. In the time you took to write that, you could have probably tried that yourself. Just sayin'
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Quote from drivelikejoewho View Post :
I was kidding but I do stream a lot of sports. I feel partially retarded after reading this thread because I have no idea what a lot of people are talking about. I have a Belkin Wireless G router. I guess I have two questions:

1) this should improve video streaming quality in terms of load times and buffering issues.. correct? The Wireless G router works fine now but the signal is a bit weak from my bedroom to living room.
2) Will the signal strength be improved or the same? What are some simple ways to improve the router signal strength?

I apologize for the retard questions but these are coming from a guy who only knows how to fix electronics by unplugging them and plugging them back in. Once that doesn't work, I'm screwed!
This depends on if the devices you have support N. If so, then yes, it will be faster transfer speeds, less buffering, etc. Plus a stronger signal in regards to distance.
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