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Last Edited by The Debater March 20, 2013 at 03:33 PM
Update to latest stock firmware if not planning to use a 3rd party firmware (OpenWrt, DD-WRT). The latest stock version includes several important stability fixes:
http://www.tp-link.us/support/dow...version=V1

Note: flashing to a 3rd party firmware will void your warranty. Proceed with caution. If you follow the directions carefully, you will be fine.


Note also (unsupported 3rd party feature): 3rd party firmware does not currently support the hardware NAT feature of this router and probably will not any time soon. Flashing back to stock will restore this functionality.



This router is the cheapest router to get OpenWRT's newest branch, Attitude adjustment which implements CoDEL a new parameterless bufferbloat solution.

Bufferbloat = latency lag when network approaches full usage.

Example: VoIP, VidChat, gaming, latency sensitive apps start stuttering once that other dude in your house starts his NetFlix streaming. You cry and stop doing what you were doing until he's done. OR you can buy this and setup codel and be happy. ^^

Installing OpenWRT isn't necessarily quite as easy but it's straightforward. If you've installed dd-wrt or Tomato, I have confidence in you that you can install OpenWRT Wink
If you know someone who would probably struggle putting dd-wrt/tomato on a router... don't have them install this. They might mess it up.

Got mine and got OpenWRT installed, so far so good....

Here's what I did (Disclaimer, if you are technically challenged I do not suggest doing this or find the beta builds of DDWRT or Gargoyle):

Original link stopped working here's a new link, if it no longer works see below.
http://downloads.openwrt.org/atti...actory.bin

If that still doesn't work here's the path from the openwrt downloads page.
Attitude adjustment...
12.09-rc1...
Ar71xx...
Generic...
Openwrt-ar71xx-generic-tl-wdr3600-v1-squashfs-factory.bin

1.) Connect an ethernet cable to the LAN side of the router, navigate to 192.168.1.1 (It may be 192.168.0.1). Username is "admin" password is "admin".
2.) Rename your OpenWRT image to "factory.bin". Navigate to the firmware upgrade page and update the firmware with your OpenWRT image.
3.) Once upgrade is done, manually set your computer's IP to 192.168.1.X (whatever you want on 1.X subnet). this step wasn't necessary for me, I got an IP via DHCP right after flashing just fine
4.) Use Putty or some other program to telnet into 192.168.1.1. Type "passwd" at command prompt and set a root password. Type "exit" and get out of the telnet session.
5.) Connect an ethernet cable from your modem to the WAN (Internet) side of the router. The blue port. The router needs internet access for the next step.
5.) Reopen Putty and do an SSH session to the same IP, login as root with your new password. Type "opkg update" and return. Type "opkg install luci" and return. To enable Luci to start on boot, type "/etc/init.d/uhttpd enable" and return and then type "/etc/init.d/uhttpd start" and return. I would also install the Luci qos module, type "opkg install luci-app-qos" and return.
6.) You can now login to Luci via an HTTP interface at 192.168.1.1. Good luck with the rest, just make sure you enable your wifi interfaces and configure them.

NOTE: It has been widely reported that LuCi is already installed and running after the install of OpenWRT. After you do the initial upgrade try navigating to 192.168.1.1 to see if the LuCI interface is up and running. If it is not then you should run through the steps listed above.

7.) Optionally, you may change to a more user friendly interface by installing the bootstrap theme (now available from the software installation function built into the web interface).
Info about bootstrap theme: http://nut-bolt.nl/2012/openwrt-b...-for-luci/
To install: System --> Software --> search for bootstrap in available package --> click install
To activate theme go to: System ---> Language and Style ---> Design ---> Bootstrap Smilie

More info, including instructions for setting up Codel on OpenWrt: https://gist.github.com/petedoyle/4129668. (he does it in a bit more complicated way than necessary, if anyone has easier instructions, please update).
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Gargoyle install: (i.e. the easy way)
If you want the simple method and are ok with a simplified interface then download the gargoyle image here http://www.gargoyle-router.com/do...actory.bin and do the upgrade with that. It already has the GUI installed and running so you can go directly to 192.168.1.1.

Although very functional, Gargoyle is kind of ugly by default, so if you care about that sort of thing, install a theme Smilie

NOTE: Gargoyle does not have all the options that LuCi does, it was designed this way. It has QOS and Codel installed by default. If you don't know why you want all the options available in Luci, then you probably don't need them.
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Here are some other helpful links that I used: bimologist
DDNS Client: http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto...using.luci
OpenVPN Setup: http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/vpn.openvpn
Guest WLan: http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/guest-wlan (non Luci) (I could not get the Luci directions to work)
Guest WLAN via Luci (does not work for some): https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=34092

Instructions for setting up QoS and CoDel for OpenWRT peeps:

Pulled from OpenWRT forums:
Quote :
First of all, the values to enter in the qos configuration are your maximal net bandwidth minus some headroom that qos needs to be effective (I hink this is no longer true for the post-backfire codel-based qos). Especially the upload value needs to be lower than the maximum you observed empirically.
I have a "up to" 16Mbit / 1Mbit line. The observed actual net rates are for me about 12Mbit and 950 kbit respectively. I hence entered this in the qos config
option download 12000
option upload 800
Since you cannot control downstream in a meaningful manner I left it at 12000, but upstream needs the headroom and through testing with simultaneous saturating upload traffic and pings I settled on 800.

I also have this stanza
onfig classify
option target "Express"
option ports "22,5190,5060,5222,19295,19301-19310
where the 19xxx ports are for Google voice and video chats, 5060 is supposed to be VoIP, but I have a hunch that this is only the port for negotiation not payload data. 5222 is XMPP instant messaging.
I’m not sure you can successfully prioritize Skype because Skype hides on port 80 and port 433, which are the usual HTTP(S) ports.
Also see, https://gist.github.com/petedoyle/4129668

To add a USB flash-drive to expand the capacity of your router, follow: http://klseet.com/index.php/tl-mr...ap-extroot

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Is it me or does anyone else have NO devices that will connect to the 5 GHz band? I have a Lenovo laptop that is only a few years old that has N but won't connect.
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Is it me or does anyone else have NO devices that will connect to the 5 GHz band? I have a Lenovo laptop that is only a few years old that has N but won't connect.
N has both 2.4 and 5,,,, yours may only support 2.4

My few year old Sony Vaio is like that.
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Is it me or does anyone else have NO devices that will connect to the 5 GHz band? I have a Lenovo laptop that is only a few years old that has N but won't connect.
My year old MBA uses it and my Galaxy Nexus cell phone. My Desktop needs a new card, no 5Ghz there. Frown

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Never needed it for Tomato personally. I gave up on DD-WRT a long time ago when it started getting bloated and hacky. I think the purpose was to make sure the NVRAM was really cleared, but was really overkill. OpenWrt doesn't rely on NVRAM to store settings (nor do Atheros routers with stock firmware I believe).
I guess people have been using that for so long now that it's almost like a religious thing. laugh out loud Thanks for the info.
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I have installed openWRT and it's running great.
How do I access router USB? Connected flash drive but I can't seem to find a way to access it.
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My year old MBA uses it and my Galaxy Nexus cell phone. My Desktop needs a new card, no 5Ghz there. Frown



I guess people have been using that for so long now that it's almost like a religious thing. laugh out loud Thanks for the info.
yea. most new stuff supports it.

though my 4 year old thinkpad supports it. odd, because I don't remember noticing that when I bought it.
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I have installed openWRT and it's running great.
How do I access router USB? Connected flash drive but I can't seem to find a way to access it.
OpenWrt is pretty barebones by default, which is good and bad. Good because it's lean, bad because you need to install packages to do most anything. The Wiki really covers most things well though. See here for USB and network share support: http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/usb.overview

You want Samba for Windows network sharing.
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yea. most new stuff supports it.
Don't agree. Brand new Asus Vivobook. No support for Dual Band. I had to buy a card with dual band support. Intel 6235, I believe. Works well with this router.
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This router works well, although I couldn't get the 5GHz to work with the OpenWRT image linked in the wiki post. I am running the latest Gargoyle and it works well, although a little buggy. Changing to some channels causes the 5GHz radio to fail.

I like this router better than the WNDR3700 that it is replacing. I did throughput tests with NetStress and found the TP-Link to be about 20-30% faster. That's what I expected with the external antennas vs. internal. What's with that trend? I hope it's over.

Couldn't afford the N66U. This is a great alternative. Very happy. Never have run OpenWRT, but looking forward to playing around with it.

Thanks OP!
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I hooked up my external drive to the router and the maximum write transfer speed from laptop to hdd I got was 2.20 MBps while the other way it was 4.50 MBps. Any tips on how to improve these speeds? I'm on stock firmware.
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Flashed with the Gargoyle fw and I'm rockin. Getting a little over 15MBps over 802.11n 5ghz Big Grin Been transferring stuff from my old HTPC to my laptop all day (around 500GB) and I haven't gotten any hiccups or hangups. My old Linksys would've barfed if I tried to do that. Even weirder that the CPU utilization of the router doesn't seem to budge when transferring massive amounts of data through encrypted wireless. Don't think I've seen a SOHO router ever do so well. Yay!
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Flashed with the Gargoyle fw and I'm rockin. Getting a little over 15MBps over 802.11n 5ghz Big Grin Been transferring stuff from my old HTPC to my laptop all day (around 500GB) and I haven't gotten any hiccups or hangups. My old Linksys would've barfed if I tried to do that. Even weirder that the CPU utilization of the router doesn't seem to budge when transferring massive amounts of data through encrypted wireless. Don't think I've seen a SOHO router ever do so well. Yay!
What dual band card on client, and on router what channel are you using?

I'm using an Intel 6235 and I'm getting 8-8.5MBps on channel 157, 40MHz 2nd Chan above on the latest Gargoyle.
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What dual band card on client, and on router what channel are you using?

I'm using an Intel 6235 and I'm getting 8-8.5MBps on channel 157, 40MHz 2nd Chan above on the latest Gargoyle.
I have a Ralink RT3592 802.11n dual band card. I needed this specific one because HP is stupid and has a white-list of accepted wifi cards embedded in a lot of their newer laptop BIOSes. I'm using 40mhz/2nd chan above/channel 36. I have absolutely nobody using 5ghz in my area which is nice.
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For those who used both OpenWRT and Gargoyle, which one do you prefer and why? I know that Gargoyle runs on top of OpenWRT, I am trying to decide which one to use.
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I have a Ralink RT3592 802.11n dual band card. I needed this specific one because HP is stupid and has a white-list of accepted wifi cards embedded in a lot of their newer laptop BIOSes. I'm using 40mhz/2nd chan above/channel 36. I have absolutely nobody using 5ghz in my area which is nice.
Thanks for your reply! Repped!
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For those who used both OpenWRT and Gargoyle, which one do you prefer and why? I know that Gargoyle runs on top of OpenWRT, I am trying to decide which one to use.
Gargoyle is easier to use. I'd go with that unless you have a specific need for full blown OpenWrt.
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