Men's Marmot PreCip Rain Jacket (Peacoat or Fatigue) $48 + Free Store Pickup

Quote from JDILLA : Correct. Although it does trap body heat somewhat because it doesn't breathe well.

raincoats that dont breathe well drive me nuts, hate getting "swamp-back"

Quote from pso : But it takes a while for the DWR to fail, and it can be re-applied when it does, so I highly recommend a more breathable jacket if you can afford it.

very true, all DWR fails eventually... but a re-applied DWR isn't usually as good as the stuff coming from the factory, and if that's your only form of waterproofing on a jacket, it would seem that this would reduce the longevity of the jacket, if you have to keep re-applying DWR every 2 weeks... for example my mountain hardwear shell's DWR is rated for 80 washes, and while I did pay a pretty penny for it (almost 170) I expect it to last a long time.

I think DWR is fine as a water-repellant for a general purpose jacket, but for a jacket specifically to be used as a raincoat, I want a more substantial water-repellant layer.

This is a nice jacket for the money. My wife has a Precip and I wear a Mountain Hardwear Epic (DryQ) shell. I would say they are fairly similar in performance and price. These are very lightweight shells. All they are designed for is keeping water and wind off you - period. If you want warmth then layer up. They can get clammy inside if its 80 + degrees out and pouring but almost any jacket will. What is nice about these is they are very light, very packable and very waterproof. Its super easy to stash one in a pack, car, etc and its there when needed and when it isnt it doesnt weigh enough or take up enough room to notice.

Agree with the other posts 100%. Buy a dedicated sport wash for this or any rain shell and dry on medium heat and you are good. Once the DWR does wear off buy a wash in or spray on product and it will keep it going. Dirt and body oils kill DWR as fast as anything else so keep it clean. The wash in / spray on stuff doesnt last nearly as long as the factory coating but it keeps water beading and is cheap/easy to reapply when needed.

wow thanks guys, i can't believe i made FP.

Quote from juvenescence : Yeah but the jackets themselves also tend to be a bit larger than normal because they assume you would layer underneath. That said, small is just about right on the jackets I've tried on. I'm basically swimming in a size medium. And I'm 5'7" with an athletic build.

This is true. These jackets are quite a bit roomier than typical fleece jacket because they are considered outer layers.

About 3 years ago my wife needed a lightweight rain jacket for a Costa Rica trip and decided to forego her Arcteryx Theta and pick up a Marmot Precip. We typically buy nothing less than the best in outdoor gear because we work it to extremes. In this case, although of course a DWR coated jacket is not going to perform anything like a serious rain shell, it worked great, keeping her at a comfortable temperature in the Costa Rican jungles and forests and absolutely dry and non-clammy the whole time despite near constant rain. She still wears it to this day whenever she needs a lightweight rain jacket and it is still waterproof.

There is a place for this type of gear, just don't think you're going to bag any big peaks with it. I do believe the Precip is the best of all the manufacturers' lightweight DWR rain jackets, just understand what you are purchasing.

Quote from lpranal : I read that as the microporous polyurethane laminate, which is impregnated with silicon dioxide, applied to the outside. I was also basing that assessment off backcountry.com reviews (people talking about it leaking once it wetted out), so this of course could be wrong. I was pretty sure that Marmot's membrane-based waterproofing was marketed as MemBrain [marmot.com] while Precip [marmot.com] was their DWR coating. It IS kind of ambiguously described, but if you check out the specs on sites like sierra trading post you'll see that Precip is rating at 12k / 15k waterproof / breathable while their membrain is 20k/20k, which would be comparable to a true membrane+DWR based product.

I think both are PU membranes, just that the precip is a much cheaper one. the Precip jacket is even listed as having 2.5 layer-waterproofing, which is a face fabric, a PU membrane, and then a printed 1/2 layer stuck to the inside of the PU membrane to keep it from feeling clammy.

if precip wasn't a PU membrane at all, i would imagine that the waterproof/breathable ratings would be something like 5K/40K. the fact that it is only 12k/15k likely just shows that is is a crappy, but real layer of PU membrane. since this is one of the cheapest jackets you can buy, it's likely that the reviewers were just filling up with sweat that wasn't evaporating fast enough through the 15K layer, or the seams were failing

contrast this with water resistant wind shells, like the patagonia houdini or montbell tachyon anorak, which aren't waterproof, but have a DWR finish that keeps light precipitation off, but will wet through once you get enough rain hitting it to get through the DWR

I scored a returned one of these at the used gear sale for $20. It's an OK shell, but it's NOT breathable. Even with arm pit zips open, my arms were damp with sweat after a 20 min bike ride to work this morning.

Quote from pso : I think both are PU membranes, just that the precip is a much cheaper one. the Precip jacket is even listed as having 2.5 layer-waterproofing,

good catch, I did not see that!

In 4 1, thanks OP.

Quote from iherebyresign : cool, picked up one of these along with this filler: http://www.rei.com/product/856324...1-closeout who doesn't need a folding fork?

i'd rather have a spork

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Just tried it. Deal seems dead.