What is very nice about the 1712 is that it has both MultiEQ XT AND 7.1. The 1713 dropped down to 5.1, so to get both features without paying much more for the 211X, the 1712 (or maybe older years?) is the only option.
For anybody thinking Onkyo - I've currently got one and it has severe handshake HDMI issues and also has issues with BluRay, the data transfer is often too much for the receiver and causes the audio to drop every few minutes.
Onkyo's quality has continued to go downhill - while Denon receivers tend to be very highly regarded in the AVS community.
Unless you are an audiophile, the difference in sound between a receiver with or without the XT will likely not be discernible.
You think only audiophiles can appreciate equalized subwoofers?
I will admit that I haven't necessarily heard a system where the subwoofer was equalized, but hearing systems where the other speakers are and the subwoofer is not, I could easily see how the subwoofer being equalized would make a big difference.
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