Whole Foods: Organic Whole Chickens $1.99 Per Pound

Quote from Kandless : Could someone without a pro- or anti- Whole Foods/organic bias try one of these and compare it against a chicken at Krogers/Costco/Walmart? I'd be interested to hear if you really do think it has more meat, is tastier, or noticeably anything else. If you can't really tell or just aren't sure that's perfectly valid too. Wouldn't it matter more how you cook it?

I've had all types of chicken as posted earlier.

Costco organic chicken comes closest to this chicken, but it does have a good amount of water injected into it. However, it has a good amount of taste if you are grilling it/cooking it in the oven. I usually put the chicken in an oven safe glass pan, then put it in for however long it needs.

Kroger chicken, not organic, is very bland. I usually layer it with spices/paprika/herb d'provence to give it some taste. There's very little base flavor in this chicken compared to costco. Edit: I've never tried organic Kroger chicken, so can't comment on that one.

Whole foods organic chicken: buy it only on sale(so rare...). It's very similar to costco chicken, but I don't think it has as much water in it, so you get more chicken per pound for the price. I rarely buy it because I am a student, but I usually go with the Costco chicken because the price is always relatively low.

Quote from magebomb : Ok,, well that's not quite a specific claim but I will play. I challenge you to name a single growth hormone you're worried about in us poultry production. Go ahead. I challenge you to explain why the pesticides used in organic farming are any more or less scary than synthetic ones used in conventional farming. Chickens are generally fed chicken feed. Please make a more specific claim.

I am not very much into this, but have a question. Maybe a stupid one. But can pesticides be used in organic farming? If so they can't be called Organic right?

Organic in the US is supposed to be non-GMO and non- chemical pesticides. They can use organic pesticides , liek t i have a jug of the stuff next to me right now, organic soybean oil. The problem is they can use organic canola oil (rapeseed oil) which is a GMO and spray that on the food and call it organic pesticides. BEst way is to grow your own food in your basement with LEDs or HIDs IMO

Find a local farmer. Buy real chicken that's ran around a farm yard eating cow shit, insects, worms, etc and gets exercise and sunlight. Yes you can taste the difference.

$2 isn't bad. Pretty sure WF buys from Amish farms. If not, it's "industrial organic" sourced through UNF.

Quote from hightop32 : The fact is i don't know what the hell they are doing on these farms! That is unsettling to me. In the case of organic/local growers and farms, you do at least know the minimum guidelines are being met (link to above pdf), and you can actually find out. So, when possible, Ill buy chickens/fish/cows that I at least know aren't tainted with drugs whose only purpose is to fatten them up, or 'cure' them of an ailment that if otherwise not dealt with would result in the animal not being able to be sold. All of these drugs, hormones, gmo'd foods, pesticides etc, have consequences and side effects apparent on the animal, and can easily pass down to the next consumer (us, or in the case of GMO feed, the animal). I dont even take over the counter (much less prescription) drugs, why would i want to injest them in my food? And this mindset expands beyond chickens, it applies heavily to milk production, seafood, meats, GMO'd veggies.... Not sure why you would have a problem with someone who thinks this way ^. YouDoYou. Plus at this price, its about the cost of the non organic chicken... so whats the gripe again?

How weasley. Hormone use in poultry production in the United states is banned. Repeat: there are no hormones being injected into conventional poultry. Zero. Nadal. Zip. Zilch.

Again what makes you thing the pesticides (scary word, right) used in organic farming are any safer than conventional?

GMO food is perfectly safe. If you don't understand it and fear it because of ignorance you should either seek the answers or stop talking like you know something the world's top food scientists do not.


You don't take medicine, eh? Natural selection has nasty things in mind for you.

Quote from stubbornboy : I am not very much into this, but have a question. Maybe a stupid one. But can pesticides be used in organic farming? If so they can't be called Organic right?

Yes pesticides can be used in organic farming. This is a common misconception that organic farmers do nothing to correct. In fact the pesticides they use are less effective than synthetics, and are often applied *more*!

Quote from KiinGPurP : Organic in the US is supposed to be non-GMO and non- chemical pesticides. They can use organic pesticides , liek t i have a jug of the stuff next to me right now, organic soybean oil. The problem is they can use organic canola oil (rapeseed oil) which is a GMO and spray that on the food and call it organic pesticides. BEst way is to grow your own food in your basement with LEDs or HIDs IMO

There is no such thing as a non chemical pesticide. The word you are looking for is non synthetic. Pretty much everything is a chemical.

Gmo is fine.

Regarding Poultry rules, the US has to step in and stop poutrly farms from simply shooting up every chicken in a coop. Up until now, antibiotics have been part of the normal diet for your run of the mill chickens.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/201...ators.html

Quote from kklayman : Regarding Poultry rules, the US has to step in and stop poutrly farms from simply shooting up every chicken in a coop. Up until now, antibiotics have been part of the normal diet for your run of the mill chickens. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/201...ators.html

ah yes antibotics, i only touched on sick animals in my reply to mage, but yes id like to avoid antobiotics as much as possible.

Quote from kklayman : Regarding Poultry rules, the US has to step in and stop poutrly farms from simply shooting up every chicken in a coop. Up until now, antibiotics have been part of the normal diet for your run of the mill chickens. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/201...ators.html

Did you even read the article? Do you really believe there is someone injecting very chicken in every coop? Do you know how many needles and medicine and personnel that would take? Why are you spreading false information?

FTA:
Antibiotics are used sparingly in U.S. chicken production, and only if they are approved by the FDA, said Tom Super, vice president of communications for the National Chicken Council in Washington.

Quote from magebomb : How weasley. Hormone use in poultry production in the United states is banned. Repeat: there are no hormones being injected into conventional poultry. Zero. Nadal. Zip. Zilch.

good to know.

Quote from magebomb : Again what makes you thing the pesticides (scary word, right) used in organic farming are any safer than conventional?

conventional pesticides are some REALLY really nasty chemicals, so much so theyve had to ban use of many different varieties over the years. Alot of growers are able to produce SOME foods without pesticides at all, depending on how the produce it.

Quote from magebomb : GMO food is perfectly safe. If you don't understand it and fear it because of ignorance you should either seek the answers or stop talking like you know something the world's top food scientists do not.

yes, because they are always right. plus how can we even know the long term effects? we are already seeing some of these effects. what is UNSAFE about not eating GMO foods? i prefer to eat something that hasnt been tinkered with, is that ok with you?

Quote from magebomb : You don't take medicine, eh? Natural selection has nasty things in mind for you.

I'm ready. I've lasted this long. Ill die soon enough, God's Plan, and all that right?
You keep eating all those antibiotics so nature can build up resistance. That'll work out long term.

Again this comes down to personal choice. If you think you dont have a problem with GMO and antiboitics and hormones in meat (not poultry, thank you for that fact), thats your choice, go for it. But again at this price, why wouldnt you buy the organic variety??

Dude, that sparingly quote is from the big chicken growers, you think they would say 'we can save a few bucks by just putting antibiotics into the feed of every chicken'. Trust me, if they think they can keep a few more chickens healthy (well, none of the chickens are really healthy, but at least alive), they will put the antibiotics into the feed for all of them.

There is a second level of chicken (costco rot., foster farms, chipotle), that specifically state there are no antibiotics or hormones. These are the middle cost between low end Kroger, and these WF ones.

Quote from magebomb : ....GMO food is perfectly safe. If you don't understand it and fear it because of ignorance you should either seek the answers or stop talking like you know something the world's top food scientists do not. You don't take medicine, eh? Natural selection has nasty things in mind for you...

There is ignorance and there is arrogance and the latter is just as plentiful in human beings. As for GMO food being perfectly safe, like all things the jury is still out for the long-term. To simply declare GMOs to be safe in an absolute sense is silly. Care to tell us when were GMOs introduced into the food supply on a large scale? Let's give it a generation to see what the outcome is to both human beings and the environment.

Still, for all our arrogance and entitlement, nature will always win. About that GMO corn:

‘Mounting Evidence’ of Bug-Resistant Corn Seen by EPA [bloomberg.com]

Scientists say it's ok? Well how many scientists said so and so drug was ok before so and so drug was recalled or new side effects appeared? I'm not anti-science and I'm not declaring that GMO food is bad. My point being is that time will tell the real effects to humans and the environment no matter what 'top scientists'. We're already trying to figure out why certain diseases have skyrocketed and allergies in both adults and children is just one example.

We live in a chemically drenched world and most surely that has caused and will continue to cause many side effects. Of course each item on its own is declared safe by 'top scientists' and the Govt. Collectively and long term however...:

Quote : Man-made chemicals cited in health scourges: UN report [yahoo.com] Man-made chemicals in everyday products are likely to be at least the partial cause of a global surge in birth deformities, hormonal cancers and psychiatric diseases, a U.N.-sponsored research team reported on Tuesday. These substances, dubbed EDCs, could also be linked to a decline in the human male sperm count and female fertility, to an increase in once-rare childhood cancers and to the disappearance of some animal species, they said. "It is clear that some of these chemical pollutants can affect the endocrinal (hormonal) system and ....may also interfere with the development processes of humans and wildlife species," the report declared.

As for medicine, we've already done quite a number on ourselves by over medicating ourselves and injecting them into our food supply. There is some irony in that humanity might be medicating and cleaning itself to death. Antibiotic this and antibacterial that leads to serious long term consequences. Of course 'top scientists' were not able to see the long term issues with something as simple as antibiotics...

Rise of superbugs threatens antibiotic crisis [guardian.co.uk]

So don't worry, natural selection has nasty things in mind for all of us, the ignorant and the arrogant. There is no real escape.

Quote from magebomb : Did you even read the article? Do you really believe there is someone injecting very chicken in every coop? Do you know how many needles and medicine and personnel that would take? Why are you spreading false information? FTA: Antibiotics are used sparingly in U.S. chicken production, and only if they are approved by the FDA, said Tom Super, vice president of communications for the National Chicken Council in Washington.

Bigger picture, when was this Antibiotic restriction implemented again? Why now?

A decade before the restrictions, 'top scientists' may have declared them to be totally safe. You might have been posting how antibiotics in chickens are perfectly safe because so and so declared it so and the government allowed it... Just food for thought.

Don't forget you are paying a lot for the bone as well. I suggest getting the boneless organic chicken thighs at Costco. Very good straight from the grill!