500GB Samsung 840 Series 2.5" SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive SSD (MZ-7TD500BW) $280 + Free Shipping

Quote from hellagrant : Wow, the price of SDDs are dropping.

This "840 Series" is the only SSD in the market to use the lowest-grade NAND, "TLC" (triple layer flash).

There's a reason it's cheap.

TLC memory is kinda a new thing in SSDs, previously something you find in cheap key chain memory sticks. It may be ok for many consumers, but I'd rather let others test drive it for a while before considering one for myself.

I don't think saving a little money over picking an SSD with MLC memory is worth it at this point, but I guess it depends on the consumer's usage scenario. Could be a good choice for data storage perhaps, if the drive doesn't get written to too much but is rather used for reading from (like an mp3/movie collection etc) then it should be just fine.

Quote from sumthin_gud : YOU CONVINCED ME!

http://slickdeals.net/forums/show...stcount=73

That post may not convince you, but others may find it to be useful information.

Quote from superstition : http://slickdeals.net/forums/show...stcount=73 That post may not convince you, but others may find it to be useful information.

OK... Tell that to the 432.92 TB of data written to it. It just seems like you're relaying data from a single source, without full stress testing, in a way I would label as alarmist. Yes, it will likely slow down, as most SSDs do, after data is continuously written. However, unless you're going to be writing enormous blocks of data every day, then the general use case will likely not be an issue before you decide you want an upgrade, anyway.

Link [xtremesystems.org]

Quote : Beware this drive only lasts 47.5 years if you write 10 gigs/day to it.

If you download 50GB worth of pron a day, it is still good for 9.5 years.

Quote from snowcrash : If you download 50GB worth of pron a day, it is still good for 9.5 years.

Who downloads that much porn a day, and is that even possible? You gotta have like the fastest internet to do that...

Quote from tennisplayer888 : Who downloads that much porn a day, and is that even possible? You gotta have like the fastest internet to do that...

I really don't know. I was just playing with the numbers and using pron is pretty eye catching. However, for people who use it for bittorrent everyday, they might wear out the drive pretty fast.

Quote from chong67 : If you got 10 SATA ports (I only have 8 now), then just get the 240gb, the sweet price point. This does look positive that price are trending down. Its about time.

How is the 240gb the "sweet price point"?
The 256gb ssd drives have been hitting front page at between $150-160. This is double that capacity and cheaper than $300-320 (before taxes).

Huh?

debating if I should throw in a second ssd in my macbook pro. already have the Samsung 830 in the main bay and put my hard drive in the optibay.


Should I take out the hard drive and put in the 840 in place of that one? second bay is only sata2

Quote from totherescue : OK... Tell that to the 432.92 TB of data written to it. It just seems like you're relaying data from a single source, without full stress testing, in a way I would label as alarmist. Yes, it will likely slow down, as most SSDs do, after data is continuously written. However, unless you're going to be writing enormous blocks of data every day, then the general use case will likely not be an issue before you decide you want an upgrade, anyway. Link [xtremesystems.org]

The TLC myth continues.

I'm really tired of the ignorant people on here quoting many review sites as fact. Review sites have also stated these drives go into read-only mode when, in reality, they simply die.

That's the most extensive test I've seen for SSDs on the web (if anyone can provide a better one, AWESOME! I welcome it!).

TLC will not die in a year or 2 unless you are abusing the drives like these guys are. If you have that many writes/read (or close to it), skip even MLC & just buy an SLC drive. Buy what fits your needs & don't scare people that these drives die at the drop of a hat. They don't & there's no proof they do. Math calculations aren't realistic because they aren't based on data, but theory. We all know how that goes and I bet all of these people on here who claim these drives die quickly will eat their words.


I've posted the same link as you & asked for proof that these drives die quickly (which no one has because there isn't any, besides quotes from forums who tested these drives for a week! ).

Thanks for posting this too.

Need more price cut on this drive. My fair price is $249.

Quote from worthmining : Need more price cut on this drive. My fair price is $249.

+1

Quote from discounteggroll : your current boot drive is an SSD and your're replacing the 320GB HDD you've already moved to the optical drive bay I'm hoping, correct?

Yes. Current boot drive was replaced with a 120GB Intel 520 and original 320GB is in the optical bay. Not too fond of having a drive with platters in the laptop. It IS a laptop after-all so portability is important and moving it around while the drive is spinning isn't a very good idea.

I love how the TLC evangelists gloss over the higher power usage issue that "alarmist" HardOCP discussed, too.

In a desktop system, the power usage isn't an issue. In a laptop, it is.

Quote from superstition : The Samsung "840 Series" is the only SSD in the marketplace using TLC (triple layer) flash chips. Triple layer flash has worse durability than common MLC flash. It has higher voltage needs, which may increase because of the higher error rate. This translates to higher power usage. The HardOCP review site even suggested that Samsung use a thermal pad because of heat production. It has the lowest program/erase cycle rating in the industry, which will only continue to get worse as the NAND process shrinks occur. It also offers lower write speed and IOPs, particularly in the 120 GB size. People like to make comparisons to enterprise SLC flash, but those aren't so useful, because the cost difference between MLC and TLC flash is much smaller than the difference between MLC and SLC.

I've also just now seen that HardOCP is playing the Anandtech game now, and trying to gloss over the flaws of TLC in their latest review (the 120 GB model). Samsung must have leaned on them. The selection of MLC drives they compared was flawed, the opening page is far too glowing, and the power usage problem was really glossed over.