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Lease: 2013 Nissan Leaf, Down payment $3,600, $99 a month. PM

DanCar 32 February 24, 2013 at 09:40 AM in Autos (3)
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Yes, they are practically giving this car away due to government incentives. Given that total cost of ownership is much cheaper than a gas car, many more people should be leasing these cars.

http://www.boardwalknissan.com/specials/new.htm
Term: 24 Months
Annual Mileage: 12,000
Down Payment: $1,995
S Lease Based on an MSRP of $29,870 (including destination charge) for a 2013 Nissan Leaf S excluding first payment, tax, title, license, bank and dealer fees.
Fine print says drive off costs $3,600 according to post #19 from Rokkyu.

To get this deal you will need to price match (PM) with your local dealer. Mine did.

The EPA range improvement for the 2013 model is quite impressive. Was 73 and is now 84 miles by old testing format. And the improvement is even better in cold weather conditions. http://green.autoblog.com/2013/02...y-84-in-n/

Here is a link to the previous Nissan Leaf thread here on slickdeals:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5847556-PRICE-DROP-2013-Nissan-Leaf-Electric-5-Seat-Car-Now-As-Low-As-18800-CA-15800-CA-SJV-17300-IL-16300-GA-15300-CO-13800-WV-and-Others-12-to-fill-tank

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#16
Quote from desinerd View Post :
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/wiki/...af-SMG.pdf

Pretty cool. The maintenance includes tire rotation, replace cabin air filter and topping up fluids. That's all!
So basically, all the same stuff except no engine oil change. That only saves $20 over regular maintenance.
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Quote from xeal View Post :
I also have a 50 mile one-way commute. In traffic free conditions it is ~1.25 hours long (if I leave for work at like 6am). If I wake up late and drive during rush hour it can turn into a 2.5 hour commute. I'm afraid if I drive a leaf it'll die halfway to work. Do you know how they calculate time vs distance?

If it has an estimated distance of 84 miles how does that convert to idling time?

Also, do I have to pay extra to have a power station installed at my house? My workplace already has a power station there.
Charging situtation depends on what option you get. For regular 120v charging on S it can take upto 10 - 12 hours for full charge from turtle to 80%. If you have 6.6kwh charger on SV then it takes 6 hours or so on a 230 v outlet ( which you have to install in your garage for about 400v). If you have a QC (quick charge ) port then you can charge in 30 minutes but you need a QC station nearby and they r expensive than gas....
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Quote from mnsweeps View Post :
I have been researching Leaf 2013 for past 6 months...I am not getting it as my daily commute of 50 miles might be cutting it too close even though EPA rating says 83 miles( which is ideal). I am getting a used Prius and in 3 years get on the Leaf when the second gen battery comes out.

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I also have a 50 mile one-way commute. In traffic free conditions it is ~1.25 hours long (if I leave for work at like 6am). If I wake up late and drive during rush hour it can turn into a 2.5 hour commute. I'm afraid if I drive a leaf it'll die halfway to work. Do you know how they calculate time vs distance?

If it has an estimated distance of 84 miles how does that convert to idling time?

Also, do I have to pay extra to have a power station installed at my house? My workplace already has a power station there.
Even if it was economical for the both of you distance vs charge wise, that lease SUCKS. It's only a 12k mile a year lease. @50 miles a day, 5 days, 52 weeks a year, you're at 13k miles, just for work. Forget about using the car for anything else.

And xeal, you're 100 miles R/T, so that's 26000 miles a year, well over double the lease terms.

Regarding idle time in traffic, when sitting idle the car is using very little powers*, just enough to run the basic electronics and radio really. *Unless of course, you live in a climate that requires heat or A/C. Heating or cooling an electric car crushes the batteries and can cut the range nearly in half. I know some EV's have the option to "pre-cool" or "pre-heat" the car while it's plugged in, since getting the cabin to a temperature uses more energy than maintaining that temperature. I'm not sure if the Leaf can do this or not.
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If you read the fine print you'll be paying about 3600 drive-off, the 1995 down is deceptive in my opinion.
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Quote from LordAthens View Post :
Even if it was economical for the both of you distance vs charge wise, that lease SUCKS. It's only a 12k mile a year lease. @50 miles a day, 5 days, 52 weeks a year, you're at 13k miles, just for work. Forget about using the car for anything else.

And xeal, you're 100 miles R/T, so that's 26000 miles a year, well over double the lease terms.

Regarding idle time in traffic, when sitting idle the car is using very little powers*, just enough to run the basic electronics and radio really. *Unless of course, you live in a climate that requires heat or A/C. Heating or cooling an electric car crushes the batteries and can cut the range nearly in half. I know some EV's have the option to "pre-cool" or "pre-heat" the car while it's plugged in, since getting the cabin to a temperature uses more energy than maintaining that temperature. I'm not sure if the Leaf can do this or not.
I never leased in my life and will never....I was thinking of buying but not impressed with the 83 mpge combined rating..My anxiety will remain high all the time with this range..I wanted something over 100 miles..

My company also participates in the Nissan VPP offer so I can get the Leaf for $1000 less than invoice..but I still think its not economical ..plus 3 yrs from now, I am pretty sure the resale value will be crap compared to a used Prius resale value....
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#21
xeal - Here's a pretty good link on EV's and idle time / heating / cooling, a bit old but all of the principals are still the same; http://www.forbes.com/sites/energ...-may-vary/
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Quote from b534202 View Post :
So basically, all the same stuff except no engine oil change. That only saves $20 over regular maintenance.
That, and spark plugs, timing belt, gaskets, hoses, coolant, filters. So about $200 per year, but you were close.

Not to mention the $1200 you save in fuel every year, compared to Corolla.
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Quote from microkelvin View Post :
what about factoring the power grid/adapter installation fee?

Also, what about factoring in the Environmental impact of manufacturing and recycling of these Lithium battery packs?
Or, maybe we don't care as long as it's not in our backyard, like how Ewaste gets shipped to 3rd world countries now?
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#24
Is there some California tax credit that would make this deal hard to replicate in other parts of the country?
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#25
there is a california rebate but only if you do a 36 month lease. doesnt go for 24 month lease. for 36 month lease, there is a $2500 rebate.
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Quote from dkd711 View Post :
Also, what about factoring in the Environmental impact of manufacturing and recycling of these Lithium battery packs?
Or, maybe we don't care as long as it's not in our backyard, like how Ewaste gets shipped to 3rd world countries now?
Same can be argue about pumping oil, waste/cost in transporting the oil, refining it, the infrastructure involve, the spills in our ocean (eg. Gulf..). All those for sure can't be recycle (well maybe infrastructure can).

When there's enough battery packs. There will be enough profits and someone will come up with a way to recycle them or take care of them safely with little impact. Just like anything else, the cost seems high but once the scale is there it will come down just like anything else.
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Quote from cerroo View Post :
Same can be argue about pumping oil, waste/cost in transporting the oil, refining it, the infrastructure involve, the spills in our ocean (eg. Gulf..). All those for sure can't be recycle (well maybe infrastructure can).

When there's enough battery packs. There will be enough profits and someone will come up with a way to recycle them or take care of them safely with little impact. Just like anything else, the cost seems high but once the scale is there it will come down just like anything else.

I'm for expanding the production and use of Natural Gas vehicles, use up the infrastructure we alrdy have in place until battery technology can catch up. PPl buying electric cars are really not helping in reality at this time. Just makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside that's all.
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Quote from dkd711 View Post :
... Just makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside that's all.
Well, that adds significant saving on heating costs, especially in cold climates.
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Quote from desinerd View Post :
That, and spark plugs, timing belt, gaskets, hoses, coolant, filters. So about $200 per year, but you were close.

Not to mention the $1200 you save in fuel every year, compared to Corolla.
You'll not be changing much apart from oil and filter for the first few years to be objective.

My GF's mother has a Honda Fit - it's now 6 years old in that time it has had all of the recommended servicing, which has two options:

Service A - Oil & Filter Change

Service B - Oil & Filter Change + Rotate Tires

The local Honda dealer usually shoots out an oil & filter coupon for $9.99 each time it's required Wink
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#30
Quote from desinerd View Post :
That, and spark plugs, timing belt, gaskets, hoses, coolant, filters. So about $200 per year, but you were close.

Not to mention the $1200 you save in fuel every year, compared to Corolla.
$200 a year for those parts on a brand new car? I bought a 2008 in late 2010, i've owned it for 2.5 years and have not replaced a single one of those things you listed other than a $5 filter. GTFO
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