250GB Samsung 840 Series 2.5" SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive SSD (MZ-7TD250BW) $140 + Free Shipping

Quote from nJoy7 : Thanks! +reps Seems easy enough! I guess I would need to reformat afterwards to ensure my O/S is installed on the drive as well.

NP & thanks for the rep. I forgot to mention, It's ideal to have a anti-static wrist-strap (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6899261001) and similar Mat (to put the PC on) while working on it to avoid shorting out the SSD or other components. I only have an anti-static wrist-strap and they are cheap and useful if you like to work on your own electronics. At the very least you'll want to touch your hand to some sort of grounded metal (the case of your PC can work) in order to ensure you're either clean or at the same potential as your case prior to handling the SSD or working on the PC.

this is a great deal.

I paid 140 last year for the same but 128gb -- and it was FP too

and the quality is superb, I never had any problems

Anyone tried one of these in the older C2D macbooks? It "should" fit and work but details are scarce. SSDs were an option with the generation I have (Second gen macbook 14") so it's a slam dunk right?

we don't need a transfer cable to clone do we?

Thanks OP. Good deal. Bought one for my wife's laptop. I'm hoping the reduced power consumption will cause the fan to run a little slower/quieter, but in any case the speed boost will be nice.

In for 3, thanks

Is it better to raid 2x250gb ssd or just single ssd of 500GB for gaming?

Quote from davio1 : Thanks OP. Good deal. Bought one for my wife's laptop. I'm hoping the reduced power consumption will cause the fan to run a little slower/quieter, but in any case the speed boost will be nice.

Then you're looking at the wrong device.

TLC NAND has higher power consumption than MLC, and since it degrades faster, it may use even more power as it ages.

The deceptively-named "840 Series" is the only SSD in the marketplace to use TLC (triple layer) flash chips instead of the typical MLC (multi-layer) chips used by all other consumer SSDs.

Samsung named it 840 to try to make people think it's very similar to the 840 Pro, but it's not. The latter is a good product, the former isn't so hot, especially in the 120 GB size.

TLC NAND has the lowest program/erase lifespan in the industry. It has the highest power usage. It has slower write speed and lower IOPs. This product is a good deal for Samsung, but not so much for the consumer who is likely to think it's a regular MLC drive.

Quote from koidy : new low fp soon

I think this is the new norm. I bet these go to $100-$120 in the next three months.

I got mine for $190 - $40 rebate - Far Cry 3 (sold for $25 on ebay) = $125, albeit with some hoop jumping.

I'm buying at $100 for a raid 0.

Quote from superstition : Then you're looking at the wrong device. TLC NAND has higher power consumption than MLC, and since it degrades faster, it may use even more power as it ages. The deceptively-named "840 Series" is the only SSD in the marketplace to use TLC (triple layer) flash chips instead of the typical MLC (multi-layer) chips used by all other consumer SSDs. Samsung named it 840 to try to make people think it's very similar to the 840 Pro, but it's not. The latter is a good product, the former isn't so hot, especially in the 120 GB size. TLC NAND has the lowest program/erase lifespan in the industry. It has the highest power usage. It has slower write speed and lower IOPs. This product is a good deal for Samsung, but not so much for the consumer who is likely to think it's a regular MLC drive.

It will still run cooler than a tradition HDD.

Also, for the average user who writes/erases 10gigs a day, it will still last you about 7 years.

Cite: http://www.anandtech.com/show/633...0gb-review

Quote from superstition : TLC NAND has the lowest program/erase lifespan in the industry. It has the highest power usage. It has slower write speed and lower IOPs. This product is a good deal for Samsung, but not so much for the consumer who is likely to think it's a regular MLC drive.

but it still seems to be in the top 15 SSD drives according to Tom's Hardware SSD charts.. How did that happen?

Quote from Stingy McCheap : but it still seems to be in the top 15 SSD drives according to Tom's Hardware SSD charts.. How did that happen?

A lot of SSD testing done by review sites involves short-term usage scenarios. This is similar to the way Consumer Reports tests appliances like refrigerators. It isn't uncommon for people to buy the top recommendations and find that they break just out of warranty.

TLC NAND degrades quicker than MLC and uses more power. HardOCP warns that the power usage may go even higher as the NAND ages. That site even suggested that Samsung start using a thermal pad because of heat generation.

This is the only SSD in the market to use TLC NAND. TLC (triple layer) also has the lowest lifespan. Anandtech estimates that the program/erase cycle lifespan may be around 750 cycles for 2xnm chips. As NAND processes continue to be shrunk, that lifespan will also shrink. MLC is being produced at 19nm already. Are we going to soon see TLC with 500 p/e cycles?

TLC NAND's performance may degrade significantly over its lifetime, especially if it is written to quite a bit. HardOCP found that steady-state 4k testing caused the 120 GB drive to even flatline on read speed, the one thing that TLC drives seem to do well in (unlike write speed). This is the first TLC product in the market. Your mileage may vary.

Quote from davio1 : Thanks OP. Good deal. Bought one for my wife's laptop. I'm hoping the reduced power consumption will cause the fan to run a little slower/quieter, but in any case the speed boost will be nice.

Quote from superstition : Then you're looking at the wrong device. TLC NAND has higher power consumption than MLC, and since it degrades faster, it may use even more power as it ages. The deceptively-named "840 Series" is the only SSD in the marketplace to use TLC (triple layer) flash chips instead of the typical MLC (multi-layer) chips used by all other consumer SSDs. Samsung named it 840 to try to make people think it's very similar to the 840 Pro, but it's not. The latter is a good product, the former isn't so hot, especially in the 120 GB size. TLC NAND has the lowest program/erase lifespan in the industry. It has the highest power usage. It has slower write speed and lower IOPs. This product is a good deal for Samsung, but not so much for the consumer who is likely to think it's a regular MLC drive.

I think Davio is comparing this SSD with HDD. This SSD, although may not be the best, does has lower power consumption than conventional HDD. For sure it has less noise as it has no moving part, but it is still running warm though it may not be as hot as a 7200rpm drive.
Nevertheless, this SSD may not be the best for a laptop if it is the only drive. It does have a short life if you write data to it repeatedly. I found it out after I placed the order. Anyway, I put a HDD in the optical drive bay with a caddy for storing active data and handle downloads. This way, I can prolong the life of the SSD and improve the performance of the laptop, but it will not extend battery running time or reduce heat.

Quote from billcsho : I think Davio is comparing this SSD with HDD. This SSD, although may not be the best, does has lower power consumption than conventional HDD. For sure it has noise as it has no moving part, but it is still running warm though it may not be as hot as a 7200rpm drive. Nevertheless, this SSD may not be the best for a laptop if it is the only drive. It does have a short life if you write data to it repeatedly. I found it out after I placed the order. Anyway, I put a HDD in the optical drive bay with a caddy for storing active data and handle downloads. This way, I can prolong the life of the SSD and improve the performance of the laptop, but it will not extend battery running time or reduce heat.

How different 840 and 840PRO are? I am photographer who do not play any games on PC, could you recommend which one good for me? Thanks.