60" Panasonic Viera TC-P60U54 600Hz Plasma HDTV $800 + Free Shipping

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Quote from godfather927 : What you are calling "LED" is still an LCD screen, but uses LEDs for its backlighting instead of a CCFL.

Correct. But LEDs are brighter, consume less power and will last much longer then CCFL.

Quote from GTeye : You have got to be kidding me? Plasma is brighter and crisper hands down.

I am not kidding. Plasma tvs are bright too, but when compared with LEDs, LEDs are brighter, which makes them better choice for rooms that has lot of light sources (like windows). They work equally well in dark or brightly lit rooms.

Plasma works well in dimly lit rooms (which is great for watching movies). Also, if you turn the brightness of Plasma up, your power bills will go up further.

Don't take my word for it, see following comparison from Samsung.

http://www.samsung.com/us/article...or-plasma-

$755 shipped in CA. Had a huge problem with their online ordering process though straight from my CC. They charged it over 8 times for orders that never went through...

Tried with Paypal and went through without a hitch...

Anyone know how long they take to ship? if someone has to be there etc?

My biggest problem with plasma technology is that it gives off a very annoying reflection in the daytime. I would imagine this model wouldn't be good for people with sunny living rooms. I don't want to, but I will probably have to purchase an LED TV for hundreds more. Yes, and I know all about closing the curtains . .

Quote from GTeye : You have got to be kidding me? Plasma is brighter and crisper hands down.

It's common knowledge that plasma tv's aren't as bright, perhaps you've never seen one?

LED backlighting is the brightest, CCFL after that, then plasma.

If you wanna go back and fourth about it, how about you just walk into a best buy before we go that route.

Quote from barndogusn : It's common knowledge that plasma tv's aren't as bright, perhaps you've never seen one? LED backlighting is the brightest, CCFL after that, then plasma. If you wanna go back and fourth about it, how about you just walk into a best buy before we go that route.

This is true. LED's are brighter. But of course you will never use that brightness in your home, like EVER. Plasmas are plenty bright for home use. Its also common knowledge that a good Panasonic plasma produces a better picture then any comparably priced LED and better then most LED's even costing twice as much. This particular panasonic plasma has glare issues because it has no anti glare filter. The ST50 model that is selling at sears (or was a day ago at least) doesn't have a glare issue. Neither do any of the models above the ST50.

When you are talking about the ST50, that is a $1500 set. I just want to spend around $1000, will have to go the LED route.

Quote from RandomDealz : Here are a couple of reviews from Cnet which shows you an accurate comparison for TV's being used 5.2 hours a day. Notice how the power consumption increases after calibration on the plasma and drops on the LCD which is typical. Shows you can't always trust the power consumption ratings the companies publish. In my case I've seen my utility bill go up approx $8.00 a month after replacing my LCD with a plasma. The Panasonic TC-P55ST50 plasma , 5.2 hours a day $54 a year after calibration 247W after, 143W before http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-pane...18300.html The Sharp Elite PRO-60X5FD 60" LCD/LED drops in power consumption after calibration from 132W to 64W , being used 5.2 hours a day cost $14 a year http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-pane...04013.html

Great, so what's the break even point factoring the $5k difference in the price of these 2 sets?

Quote from blahblahyoutoo : Great, so what's the break even point factoring the $5k difference in the price of these 2 sets?

The comparison had nothing to do with cost, it's showing differences in power consumption, between LCD and plasma sets. Look at some of the other LCD reviews on Cnet and you will find similar power ratings for sets in the same price range as the Panasonic plasma. What I found out is the power consumption ratings that manufactures publish for plasma sets including the two I own are not a honest representation of how much power a plasma set will actually consume after proper calibration. Out of the box plasma sets are set to very low levels, energy saving settings, etc.,anything to get to their published lower power consumption, not real world use.

Quote from barndogusn : It's common knowledge that plasma tv's aren't as bright, perhaps you've never seen one? LED backlighting is the brightest, CCFL after that, then plasma. If you wanna go back and fourth about it, how about you just walk into a best buy before we go that route.

What you are going to find most of the time when walking in to a store and comparing plasma versus LCD sets is neither are properly calibrated, giving you an unfair comparison. LCD's usually come out of the box in a torchlight mode, set higher, in brightness, contrast, color, etc. On the other hand plasma sets come of of the box having their settings lower, including energy saving settings intentionally by the manufactures to reach the lower power consumption rating they publish for their sets. Next time you are in a Best Buy ask for the remote for the plasma set and LCD set you are looking at and visually adjust their settings to how you would watch the set in your home, and don't forget to turn off any energy saving settings on the plasma. True a LCD compared to a plasma set is going to look brighter, over saturated if both have their settings set to the max, but remember no one is going to watch them that way in their home.

Quote from barndogusn : It's common knowledge that plasma tv's aren't as bright, perhaps you've never seen one? LED backlighting is the brightest, CCFL after that, then plasma. If you wanna go back and fourth about it, how about you just walk into a best buy before we go that route.

It's also common knowledge that LEDs are TOO bright and you'll want to back the brightness down so you don't blow out all your blacks. When it comes down to it, plasma is plenty bright for all situations, you just don't get that retina burn that you can with LEDs (which, really, is only there so stores can crank up the LEDs to be vivid with all the artifical lighting).

Would I put a plasma outside on a deck? No. But I have one in my livingroom with huge sliding glass doors and it's plenty bright...and I don't even have the brightness maxed.

Quote from blinkwatt : $755 shipped in CA. Had a huge problem with their online ordering process though straight from my CC. They charged it over 8 times for orders that never went through... Tried with Paypal and went through without a hitch... Anyone know how long they take to ship? if someone has to be there etc?

Same thing happened to me and AMEX. I had to match my billing address to the address on file at AMEX. It turned out that Road needed abbreviated RD. It says 1-3 days for shipping. Do they ship via UPS Fedex?

Quote from RobertB5676 : Same thing happened to me and AMEX. I had to match my billing address to the address on file at AMEX. It turned out that Road needed abbreviated RD. It says 1-3 days for shipping. Do they ship via UPS Fedex?

Mine shipped out today in the midwest via NVC logistics group. The shipper might depend on your location.