Denon AVR-1913 Refurb $280 shipped from DENON.COM

In for one. Replaces my 10 year old Onkyo (don't remember model but 5.1 with zone2 capability) which went dead last month. I need only 5.1, but no harm having a 7.1

Usually Denon Refurbs sells out quickly.

These are much better than Onkyo. If you search for Onkyo and HDMI, you can see thousands of posts compare to 1-2 for Denon.

I got Initially I used to have Onkyo 706. HDMI stopped working after 2 years. Later Tried the pioneer and it died in 1 day. You can also Google for Pioneer and dead to see problems about them). Now I got Denon 4065 from Costco and there is a huge difference in the sound quality now (got Focal Sib and cub 5.1 with pair of Focal 706v as front speakers). Android and iOS UI is wonderful too.

Lesson:
Next time when you see a Denon Refurb from Denon, just buy and think later.

Quote from DealHuntingDood : 6% back from befrugal allowed on this too?

I am registered with a few different cash back sites but I'm not familiar with frugal is it good? Have you made cash back through them?

Quote from Renaissanceman : I am registered with a few different cash back sites but I'm not familiar with frugal is it good? Have you made cash back through them?

same here, i did use them on something last year, got payed no problem...On this Denon Purch, I am getting $16.80 back Slick indeed!

ONKYO TX809 is better.

Quote from UnstableChimp : Two-year warranty (One-year warranty on Refurbished model) I bought a refurbed Marantz SR5006(Denon Product) almost 1-year ago, and have not had any issues. It arrived in like-new cosmetic condition, and has performed like new. I highly recommend keeping these areas on AV racks, and out of cabinets. Older receivers did not have near the amount of logic, seem to primarily consist of Analog components. Heat drastically shortens the life of electronics, so follow all the guidelines in the manual in regards to clearance around the receiver. On the 2nd page of the manual it states: For proper heat dispersal, do not install this unit in a confined space, such as a bookcase or similar enclosure. • More than 12 in. (0.3 m) is recommended (front/top/back). • Do not place any other equipment on this unit.

Wire up a PC fan to an old wall wart ~300-500 mA which is pretty common for small electronics, if you keep them chances are you have on that will work. 80mm is more than sufficient.

Plug that sucker into the switched outlet (if you have one) or a smartstrip and screw it onto your entertainment center back and out of sight blowing or pulling air over the top of the AVR. I've used this same setup for years and it keeps my AVR's running nice and cool. Use a low enough power wall wart and the fan is very quiet. Smartstrip is needed more and more now because most AVR's have dropped switched outlets.

This is not generally necessary as most AVRs run fairly cool. But it will make the hot ones last longer, and is cheap insurance on cool ones. And a fan like this will keep a Denon running cool even if there is only an inch or so of open space.

Have never had a Denon/Marantz/Yamaha fail on me, and they've all been refurb or open box units. But I think in general AVR's are getting more complex and the big brands are all dropping quality each year.

Having said that, I have used Denon service after buying known-to-be flawed open box units with no trouble at all. You get fast turnaround if you send them into the big repair centers. Can be really slow going to a small local shop that needs diagnose and order parts. If you have a problem with a Denon/Marantz, I'd suggest getting a RMA and sending it in.

Orders are getting cancelled...

I called today to cancel my yesterdays order.. but they said - my order was already in rejected status..

so i guess most of you will hear the bad news

Quote from cellneuron : ONKYO TX809 is better.

I'd hope so, seeing as how it's twice the price and all. Not exactly apples to apples, either... the 809 is more similar to the 2113 than the 1913, anyways.

Denon did start getting rid of a lot of the non-HDMI inputs, which is annoying to people with older stuff, I'm sure.... but as far as sound quality, I KNOW I'm getting something good with a denon, and I've heard some Onkyos that were good and some that were so-so... so I'd need to listen at a store before I ordered. With a Denon, I just look at the feature list and order, and know what I'm going to get.


The 1913 was in stock this morning when I got to work. Went to order one an hour later and it was gone, sadly.

I'll keep checking back for the next day or so. Maybe I'll get lucky.

Just a hunch but I have a sneaky suspicion that the 1913 refurbs will actually be brand new.

Quote from DWhite456 : Just a hunch but I have a sneaky suspicion that the 1913 refurbs will actually be brand new.

My 1613 refurb arrived yesterday and was actual refurb

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Quote from 3hrs : Orders are getting cancelled... I called today to cancel my yesterdays order.. but they said - my order was already in rejected status.. so i guess most of you will hear the bad news

I impulse bought the 1913 and I'm kind of hoping mine gets canceled. I tried to call and cancel and they said that I couldn't. I'd like to pay $20 more and get the 1712 with Audyssey MultEQ XT I think. I don't really care about the networking stuff.

Quote from mattzane227 : I impulse bought the 1913 and I'm kind of hoping mine gets canceled. I tried to call and cancel and they said that I couldn't. I'd like to pay $20 more and get the 1712 with Audyssey MultEQ XT I think. I don't really care about the networking stuff.

if you don't like it. and get a delivery to home
you have 2 options

1) reject shipment and get a full refund later
0r 2) sell on Amazon as refurbished - with out opening the box


option 2 might even fetch you additional $20 back..

Quote from mattzane227 : I impulse bought the 1913 and I'm kind of hoping mine gets canceled. I tried to call and cancel and they said that I couldn't. I'd like to pay $20 more and get the 1712 with Audyssey MultEQ XT I think. I don't really care about the networking stuff.

I like the 1913 for the upconverting component to HDMI, personally. It's exactly what I was looking for in a receiver.

If you can't cancel, I'll totally buy it from you and pay for shipping to me if you're cool with that.

I ordered then had buyers remorse and canceled my order. Going to wait for a deal with 4k pass thru. I think there were some Yamaha amps earlier selling for around $300 with 4k pass-thru. How are those amps compared to denon. I am def staying away from onkyo after having the HDMI issue.