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Refurb. Panasonic SC-BTT196 5.1 Channel 1000 Watt Home Theater System with Blu-ray Player - $159.99 AR (or less) Shipped @ Newegg.com

TDMVP73 72,587 March 2, 2013 at 12:02 AM in Mail In Rebate (8)
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I didn't see this posted, so I thought I'd share.

Refurb. Panasonic SC-BTT196 5.1 Channel 1000 Watt Home Theater System with Blu-ray Player - $159.99 AR (or less) Shipped @ Newegg.com
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Item Price: $179.99
$20 Mail-In Rebate [newegg.com]
AR Cost: $159.99

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This will bring your final AR price down to: $141.99

Price Comparison: Walmart [walmart.com] sells the same model home theater system for $328.00 new.

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#16
Panasonic SC-BTT195 vs Panasonic SC-BTT196 whats the difference?
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Ah, okay. I didn't notice the 30 day warranty coverage.
Well... SquareTrade [squaretrade.com] has extended warranties if that's an issue of concern.
2 Years would be $18.99
3 Years would be $29.99
That's before any discounts. They routinely have 30% off coupons, but I have a 40% off coupon they sent to my e-mail. PM me if you want it.
When I saw this deal this morning I fired off an email to a relative looking for 85% of what this has (namely a HTIB - and tall boy style speakers). I noticed right off that the warranty was 30 days only so I jumped over to Squaretrade & after 10 minutes of trying to figure out where the hell the refurbished drop down is (remember new or refurbished) I read in the contract print now that it's only for NEW items unless purchased via Ebay. EEK!

I thought WTH?!? I could totally have missed it, or it could be yet another site that's been written poorly for firefox. But I was unable to find anything other than ebay items that qualified anymore for a refurbished warranty through S.T.

So looks like $19.99 for a year through the company best buy lists is the next best option or a whopping $39.99 for 2 years, though at that point that's almost 1/4th of the unit price which truly would be awful.

If people decide to go free - balling it on this deal. At least buy with a AMEX, Visa, or New Discover that doubles the warranty to 60 days for free. IDK if any of the Visa Signature plans would sell a warranty on a manf. refurbish. - not a manufactures refurb so won't qualify! 8-( The problem is those scale pretty hard for less expensive items so it might not be any less than the $39.99 from Newegg. (The pricing tier is a lot better around the $750 - $1,200 price range for 3-5 year plans.
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When I saw this deal this morning I fired off an email to a relative looking for 85% of what this has (namely a HTIB - and tall boy style speakers). I noticed right off that the warranty was 30 days only so I jumped over to Squaretrade & after 10 minutes of trying to figure out where the hell the refurbished drop down is (remember new or refurbished) I read in the contract print now that it's only for NEW items unless purchased via Ebay. EEK!

I thought WTH?!? I could totally have missed it, or it could be yet another site that's been written poorly for firefox. But I was unable to find anything other than ebay items that qualified anymore for a refurbished warranty through S.T.

So looks like $19.99 for a year through the company best buy lists is the next best option or a whopping $39.99 for 2 years, though at that point that's almost 1/4th of the unit price which truly would be awful.

If people decide to go free - balling it on this deal. At least buy with a AMEX, Visa, or New Discover that doubles the warranty to 60 days for free. IDK if any of the Visa Signature plans would sell a warranty on a manf. refurbish. The problem is those scale pretty hard for less expensive items so it might not be any less than the $39.99 from Newegg. (The pricing tier is a lot better around the $750 - $1,200 price range for 3-5 year plans.
Really? Wow, I had no idea. I thought it was just a site re-design and they didn't make you specify on SquareTrade anymore whether or not it was new or refurb.

I mean, you could probably just Photoshop or use a PDF editor on the Invoice to remove the Refurbished. How would they know? laugh out loud

I originally thought this was manufacturer-refurbished, but after reading further, I saw it was done by Sohnen. I'm not sure how I feel about that, given that Sohnen also refurb'ed the Emerson Radios that were FAR and a few people got DOA units.

If you get one that actually works, I think this is a fantastic deal. If I was in the market for one, I'd probably jump given the price.

The only other negative of this particular system is that it's only WiFi ready, and requires that you buy the relatively expensive Panasonic WiFi Adapter (LINK [amazon.com]).

I'll still take my Samsung HT-D6500W for $108 any day over this. Wink
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Panasonic SC-BTT195 vs Panasonic SC-BTT196 whats the difference?
I will preface this with a I was tired & it was early this morning when I researched for that very same answer. What I THINK is that this is one of those Walmart products that they get renamed (because of their buying power) and slightly renumbered so they can avoid having to do price matches on the item. The only other store I see it @ is Amazon and although they list it as available in the summer of 2012 Camel Camel Camel shows a flat line if I remember, other than third parties, and of course Newegg but I could only ever find the refurbished model being sold there (NOW).

I found one site that purported to compare the two but it was just a generic mill site you plug in your model & then depending on how faithfully the program gleamed or someone added the details to the spreadsheet...anyway what I'm getting at is the spread sheet comparison was wildly inaccurate.

So I believe give or take a few things perhaps some cost cutting deletions from the Walmart BTT196 version (PERHAPS NOT) they seemed quite similar. Although of course Walmart the only place that actually sold these has the LEAST information about any HTIB I've ever seen them post, which makes the comparison to the more widely available BTT195 tricky.

IF it is the same +/- of the BTT195 here was a nice review of that model:
Overview:
http://hometheater.about.com/od/h...Review.htm
Some more of the PQ & nuts & bolts:
http://hometheater.about.com/od/h...-Tests.htm
It actually performed better than the Samsung HT-D6500 that some of us picked up for a song from BB last year.
Pictures so you can actually see the inputs (at least of the BTT-195).
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Really? Wow, I had no idea. I thought it was just a site re-design and they didn't make you specify on SquareTrade anymore whether or not it was new or refurb.
I mean, you could probably just Photoshop or use a PDF editor on the Invoice to remove the Refurbished. How would they know? laugh out loud
I originally thought this was manufacturer-refurbished, but after reading further, I saw it was done by Sohnen. I'm not sure how I feel about that, given that Sohnen also refurb'ed the Emerson Radios that were FAR and a few people got DOA units.

If you get one that actually works, I think this is a fantastic deal. If I was in the market for one, I'd probably jump given the price.
The only other negative of this particular system is that it's only WiFi ready, and requires that you buy the relatively expensive Panasonic WiFi Adapter (LINK [amazon.com]).
I'll still take my Samsung HT-D6500W for $108 any day over this. Wink
Edit: yeah i saw the Sohnen thing but didn't read it carefully enough, I thought that was the company offering the warranty if you bought it. - OH so that means NO CC doubling of the warranty... I better go fix that above.
So you saw no refurbished either on S.T. huh? - DARN!
After seeing how they screwed up the redbox site for JUST firefox users the other day (lot of complaints) I thought maybe it was a formatting issue.

EDIT TDMVP... LOL I see we both had our HT-D6500's on our minds... Read this page. Not that it makes a huge difference to me but I was just like AWWW!
http://hometheater.about.com/od/h...sts_10.htm
http://hometheater.about.com/od/h...sts_10.htm

Just checked my email didn't hear back from the family member. I wish I needed one, I'd like to test it out. If I had any balls at all I'd get it and try & flip it, but with my luck another a meteor would come sailing thru my window the day after it arrived, and I hooked it, and found it was the greatest sound I'd ever heard; only to have it be smashed to little bits so small that they couldn't tell what it was originally in one of the few ways (act of meteor) that the warranty isn't covered.
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Edit: yeah i saw the Sohnen thing but didn't read it carefully enough, I thought that was the company offering the warranty if you bought it.
So you saw no refurbished either on S.T. huh? - DARN!
After seeing how they screwed up the redbox site for JUST firefox users the other day (lot of complaints) I thought maybe it was a formatting issue.

EDIT TDMVP... LOL I see we both had our HT-D6500's on our minds... Read this page. Not that it makes a huge difference to me but I was just like AWWW!
http://hometheater.about.com/od/h...sts_10.htm
http://hometheater.about.com/od/h...sts_10.htm
I think Robert Silva works for Panasonic. laugh out loud

Calling out my Samsung like that... what a jerk!

I think he's nitpicking a bit too much. I watch movies all the time on my Samsung system and they look fine. I'm not a huge fan of Panasonic products after I had two expensive CRT TVs and 1 Blu-ray player go haywire within a few years. The TVs had picture-in-picture and all the bells and whistles back from the "thick TV" days and the tuner went out on one, and then the other in a span of 3 months. Replacing that was more expensive than a brand-new 40 inch LCD HDTV would be today, so I had to trash them.
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thanks it make sense!
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Man, I had been pondering an Onkyo 5.1 system, but this is cheaper and comes with a blue ray player... decisions, decisions.
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Man, I had been pondering an Onkyo 5.1 system, but this is cheaper and comes with a blue ray player... decisions, decisions.
Well I think we've been thinking aloud about the system. There is obviously some risk. I didn't do a good enough job to know whether if it breaks right away in the first 30days of the warranty what exactly Newegg or the Sohnen group would do. Doesn't look like Walmart has these in stock anymore either so no chance of a buy & return there scenario either shake head

So if you are on the hook for shipping back to Newegg or Sohnen that may cost you $20-$30+ if it dies, on the other hand it sounds like if you get the $19.99 warranty that they cover shipping (NOT Forsure I read it fast yesterday AM).

If you don't have a Blu-ray player & this system works that's a decent bundle IMHO.
If you have one already and don't need another Blu-ray player than it sounds like an Onkyo deals is more practical.

What do you think?
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I went with the Onkyo. I had been pondering it off and on for a while, it was a good deal from Amazon Warehouse deals, I had a $50 Amazon giftcard, and it got virtually spectacular reviews, so the money finally got too hot in my pocket and I ponied up for it. I also like the timelessness of a receiver versus a blue ray player. (I also have no blue rays at all...)

I think this is a good deal, but there were just too many question marks on it for me, though I do appreciate all the info you provided on it.
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I went with the Onkyo. I had been pondering it off and on for a while, it was a good deal from Amazon Warehouse deals, I had a $50 Amazon giftcard, and it got virtually spectacular reviews, so the money finally got too hot in my pocket and I ponied up for it. I also like the timelessness of a receiver versus a blue ray player. (I also have no blue rays at all...)
I think this is a good deal, but there were just too many question marks on it for me, though I do appreciate all the info you provided on it.
If you don't mind, which one did you go with?
That sounds like a decent plan, to go separate components, not that this deal wasn't good. I spent a little more time this afternoon reading the reviews for the BTT195 because I think it's the same. There are a few people on Amazon that expected it to be completely turn key (one guy said I had it on max volume watching Star Wars) --> unless he is 90% hearing impaired he simply didn't have the db / power levels adjusted up for the speakers. Those are the kind of people that often rate a product 1, 2 stars in general and return it. They also set the wrong sound fields people make comments like the center speaker doesn't work, well it works when I do the test signal but not when I play music... well likely they are playing 2 ch audio and so it comes out the Rt & Lt speakers only, UNLESS or until they change the sound field to something like Prologic or better and it simulates (interpolates/fakes the sound to all the speakers). Or they don't adjust the EQ settings tone/bass you know all the settings that actually make the sound full & rich; do that and all of the sudden those people are like WOW!!!!

It's usually EASY to tell who knows little about audio but doesn't take 20 minutes to read through the manual and to try to learn how to use the $200 - $400 piece of electronics they just bought, but I digress.
I'm still on the fence about this deal. There is that added negative with a HTIB that if / when it craps out it can take both the Blu-ray & the audio with it. I am a junkie for about 10 different electronic items and HTIBs are one when they go on sale. I see that Best Buy had teh BTT-195 on sale for $200 a few times in the last few months so $160+ with the 1 year warranty isn't that impressive for a refurb. but I still want it.

It's a lot different than when I got my first blu-ray player and prices were "high". Then the HTIBoxes really added some extra value for not that much more money to the high cost of a Blu-ray. I only got my first when I did because it was on Clearance. You can now find some decent or some cheap deals on Blu-ray players now depending on your time frame. The new models are due out soon so last years medium and higher end models can sometimes be had for a song over the next few months if you are into "smart" devices with apps, otherwise you can save more $$ by skipping them. And frankly with electronics there are sales throughout the year.

I don't own that many Blu-rays personally. I got about 5 at X-mas for $20 total & then pooled them with what the rest of my family got to start our Ultra-Violet family account/ collection. UV didn't start off very strong at launch (this is coming from a "reformed" P2P downloader) but it's really become impressive and gets better.
$2 to add a Blu-ray in HD format to our account or a DVD in SD format to the service. You used to have to go to Walmart physically (they own VUDU now & have a worker add the movie to your acct) but now the three main services (VUDU, Flixster, & Cinema) all have beta apps to do it from home for $2-5 each. (The $5 is if you want to convert a DVD to HD quality). We can share it with our whole extended family (5) other accts under our family umbrella. Though only 3 of us know how to use it unassisted. Otherwise I just rent blu-rays from Redbox.

IDK Why I felt like babbling but I did. Embarrassment Done now.
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I'm honestly surprised this deal didn't get more attention.

Best Buy and Amazon sold a similar model to this for $199.99 in January, and that deal made front-page.

With the V.me promo, $142 is pretty dirt cheap for a 5.1 Home Theater System with a 3D Blu-ray Player.
The reason it hasn't gotten more attention is that "1000 watt home theater system" sounds cheap and fake, which of course it is. "Cheap home theater in a box" would be a more honest description, and when called what it is would probably get more attention from those who are looking for something along those lines.
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If you don't mind, which one did you go with?
That sounds like a decent plan, to go separate components, not that this deal wasn't good. I spent a little more time this afternoon reading the reviews for the BTT195 because I think it's the same. There are a few people on Amazon that expected it to be completely turn key (one guy said I had it on max volume watching Star Wars) --> unless he is 90% hearing impaired he simply didn't have the db / power levels adjusted up for the speakers. Those are the kind of people that often rate a product 1, 2 stars in general and return it. They also set the wrong sound fields people make comments like the center speaker doesn't work, well it works when I do the test signal but not when I play music... well likely they are playing 2 ch audio and so it comes out the Rt & Lt speakers only, UNLESS or until they change the sound field to something like Prologic or better and it simulates (interpolates/fakes the sound to all the speakers). Or they don't adjust the EQ settings tone/bass you know all the settings that actually make the sound full & rich; do that and all of the sudden those people are like WOW!!!!
Yeah, I believe the SC-BTT196 is probably the exact same thing as the SC-BTT195. Odds are it was probably a "warehouse club model".... you know, like the ones they sell at Sam's Club, Costco and BJ's that have slightly different model #'s but nearly identical features to the retail one. Samsung does it... I'm sure others do as well.

As for the reviews.... I think some of the people are a step above retarded. I bet you the "it's not loud enough" is simply not adjusting the db per speaker, or like you said... 2 channel audio playing on 2 of the 5 speakers. You know those tallboys have to pump out some jams.... I saw a similar system set up at Sam's Club and I was like "f this, I'm gonna try this sucker out."

So I put it a couple of ticks away from max volume and nearly blew out my eardrums. The song was Farkin' Problem [youtube.com] and the sub was like vibrating the shelf. Erryday I'm hustlin'.
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The reason it hasn't gotten more attention is that "1000 watt home theater system" sounds cheap and fake, which of course it is. "Cheap home theater in a box" would be a more honest description, and when called what it is would probably get more attention from those who are looking for something along those lines.
Lol, that doesn't make any sense. The front-page deal of essentially the sister model had the exact same title description.

The only difference between that deal and this one is:
1) This deal is potentially $74 cheaper than Best Buy (with tax on $200) and $58 cheaper than Amazon (not factoring in tax).
2) This one is refurbished.
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Quote from LonelyHiker View Post :
The reason it hasn't gotten more attention is that "1000 watt home theater system" sounds cheap and fake, which of course it is. "Cheap home theater in a box" would be a more honest description, and when called what it is would probably get more attention from those who are looking for something along those lines.
Do you own this exact model from Wal-mart or a refurbished from Newegg? - BC i get the impression that you are thumbing your nose down at us HTIB owners.

Because I now own four HTIBoxes (want to point out that one was not enough*). All on clearance but if i had the money to spend I would have bought them all again at a higher price. All four are "1000 watts" though that figure is not taken seriously. But do they pump the hell out the air & space around them F' YES! I even use the cheapest one a Samsung HT-C5500 for a summer time outdoor driveway theater with my epson LCD projector & a stapled taught white sheet for a screen. You wouldn't think outside that one of these would adequately fill enough sound to make the experience fun, but as long as I keep the sub-woofer set up near the garage door & a wall it booms and surrounds like crazy. It's quite funny because in some scenes where a car or vehicle is driving by or honks and that comes out the rear speakers invariable someone will jump or turn around thinking it's a car out on the road going by.

In the house the experience (with the units dialed in & correctly set up db / distance levels) most of the time I can't put them past 20-25 of/with max settings of 40 or 50 depending on the model. I put Lord of the Rings in with my Samsung HT-C6730W and there isn't a person yet that isn't totally floored by it - granted it's a much higher end model than the Panasonic, but I'm getting a bit tired of people crapping over HTIB as though all the people that used them were backward anti-audiophiles that know nothing.
P.S. I have an Onkyo 7.1 receiver but it's ability to push more current to higher ohm'd speakers doesn't really enhance my movie watching pleasure more than the Samsung's or Sony HTIB's do, but it does have more HDMI ports Wink

P.S. Your signature says "I'm an outdoor adventurer, science geek, classical guitarist, programmer, photographer, audiophile, and car nut, so I try to help the SD community by posting useful information in those areas."
Some definitions and related information to the word
USEFUL: "1) : capable of being put to use; especially : serviceable for an end or purpose <useful tools>
2) : of a valuable or productive kind <do something useful with your life>
useable means that something can be used; useful means that something is helpful or beneficial and can be used to advantage
Synonyms: adapted, applicable, appurtenant, apropos, apt, becoming, befitting, belonging, congruous, convenient, correct, deserved, desired, due, felicitous, fit, fitting, germane, good, just, on the button, on the nose, opportune, pertinent, proper, relevant, right, rightful, seemly, tailor-made, true, useful, well-suited, well-timed

See I think you were thinking of the opposite of Useful when you posted a drive by troll
Antonyms: improper, unbecoming, unfitting, unseemly, unsuitable, unsuited
It's a troll comment & un-useful because it's a broad untrue, incorrect generalization as if all HTIB's were the same (there are poor ones & there are great ones). Secondly it's a trolling comment because you don't identify anything useful or specific. If you had at least posted something related to this unit, I own it, I don't own it but I hear it all the time at a friends house & XYZ is wrong/bad with it) etc. Or I don't own it, but I did just stay @ a holiday in last night, you get the idea, useful information. :sarcastic: Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
It's no more Useful than going to any thread and dropping a general-generic-non-specific-un-fact and then logging off! Or anymore useful than my dog when I've run out of toilet paper, sure I could be a dick and use his hair as toilet paper, or a bunch of other sick things that just popped into my head to get my @$$ clean, but it's not useful and I don't own a dog!
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