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Philips 10W (60W eqivalent) L Prize LED bulb $14.97 Home Depot B&M only, YMMV, perhaps

MrKay 50 March 2, 2013 at 07:12 PM in Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV) (8)
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I found this at Home Depot in Oakbrook, IL, this afternoon:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5...ord=643430

Note that this is the same price that HD gets for the 60W equivalent that uses 12.5 watts:

Amazon lists this for $34.05:

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-423...rds=423244

I checked and do not think that this is a repost. I found a thread from last year that got thumbed down when the bulbs were $40. This is closer to the price of similar bulbs, and I haven't found another that puts out this much light while using only 10 watts.

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#16
LED-s are not ready for prime time. Too much $$$ and the light output claimed is a scam. And, wait 'til the $**t hits the fan re: the UV-s put out by CFL-s. Keep up the good work Smog Nazis!
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#17
oh! this is the L Prize [wikipedia.org] bulb! I heard about that contest. This is the bulb that won the $10million competition held by the dept of energy.

93.4 lm/W
9.7 watts
910 lumens
99.3% lumen maintenance at 25,000-hours (95% confidence)
93 CRI
2727 K CCT

Although the subsidized price was expected to be $22 in the first year, $15 in the second and $8 in the third, the bulb was initially selling for $50–$60 (without rebates) as of July 2012, although by September 2012 the retail price had dropped to $40
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#18
$49+ everywhere near where I live, which is an insane price for a light bulb.

I'll use CFLs when I have to and some LEDs from CostCo, but the energy savings of an LED just don't make up a ridiculously high price like this.
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Quote from tukwok View Post :
Yeah most LED light bulbs are still at a premium compared to CFL. The energy saved won't pay for itself over the life of the bulb.
Quote from yeti79 View Post :
I'll use CFLs when I have to and some LEDs from CostCo, but the energy savings of an LED just don't make up a ridiculously high price like this.
Compared to a CFL there's basically no energy savings with an LED. Obviously the energy savings of either a CFL or LED pays for the bulb several times over compared to incandescents.

When you take the cost of the bulb into account though, it's sort of a tie depending on how you compare them. LEDs outlast the CFLs by several times. So, based on current prices, over time they're cheaper than buying several CFLs. Thing is, compared to the prices of LEDs in 2 or 3 years, LEDs now are very expensive. So it still makes sense to buy CFLs for the most part, but not much longer given that prices are falling pretty quickly. In other words, you buy a $3 CFL today as a way to pay $10 less for an LED in 2 years.

While LEDs TODAY don't really win based on power or bulb cost, they do on labor costs. As soon as you have to pay someone to replace the bulb, or you can earn more money in the time it takes you to replace the bulb than it costs, the extra few bucks on top of the CFLs price makes it more expensive.

Quote from onlycash View Post :
Both my local Lowes and HomeDepots have lots of LED bulbs in the $7 to $12 price range. I've purchased about a dozen LED bulbs so far and this is not a deal to me.
Well, you can buy ground chuck and ground sirloin and make hamburgers out of each, but there's a quality difference. Same thing with LEDs. The technology is still new enough that there are real differences between bulbs. The differences may matter in some situations and not in others, but they do exist. Cheaper isn't always better.

Quote from suednim View Post :
LED-s are not ready for prime time. Too much $$$ and the light output claimed is a scam. And, wait 'til the $**t hits the fan re: the UV-s put out by CFL-s. Keep up the good work Smog Nazis!
Listen to a lot of talk radio?

Quote from yeti79 View Post :
I'll use CFLs when I have to and some LEDs from CostCo, but the energy savings of an LED just don't make up a ridiculously high price like this.
True. But there's more to a light bulb than just the cost to power it.
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#20
Does anyone here know if these work well with X10 switches? CFL's have this problem that when you use an X10 switch and turn the light of the light stays flickering (with lower intensity that when light is on) so you can't really use them.
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Quote from Zanthexter View Post :

While LEDs TODAY don't really win based on power or bulb cost, they do on labor costs. As soon as you have to pay someone to replace the bulb, or you can earn more money in the time it takes you to replace the bulb than it costs, the extra few bucks on top of the CFLs price makes it more expensive.
This x1000. LEDs are big business in the commercial sector.
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Quote from mannyaguilar View Post :
Does anyone here know if these work well with X10 switches? CFL's have this problem that when you use an X10 switch and turn the light of the light stays flickering (with lower intensity that when light is on) so you can't really use them.
I use them with Insteon no problem. Cfl flickered for me too.
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Quote from cruzmisl View Post :
I use them with Insteon no problem. Cfl flickered for me too.
Will go get a few tomorrow. Thanks for the info!
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#24
I just had 2 led bulbs stop working on me within a week of each other. They were utilitech bulbs from Lowes that I purchased a couple years ago.

Had no receipt (thought they'd last longer), but lowes swapped them out for me, with hesitation
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LED new tech does not have Bulb that is last. Eventually, I know you paid more than you pay now. $15 for a bulb is not really a buy.
A god LED will keep most of its brightness for more than 10 years, possibly much longer, and is roughly 20% more energy-efficient than a CFL for the same light. I have early-gen ones that run 16 hours per day are are still strong after 3 years. A comparable CFL that can be dimmed, has good quality light, a relatively quick warm-up, and a casing to hide the curly-q can cost $2-$4 and will last only 2-4 years, shorter if cycled a lot. Considering this, the $11-$13 LED premium is a *great* value and will easily be covered by the energy savings alone if used frequently after a few years, and the years it lasts after that is just gravy. Yes, you could wait a couple years and probably pay half as much, but the energy you would have saved versus a CFL would offset much of that, plus you can put in a great LED now and not worry about it again for years. Also, you don't have to deal with warm-up, mercury vapor if broken, worries about frequent on/off, high heat, etc. They key is chosing the right LED. Older ones used to cost more, had very directional light, bad rendering, odd hues, etc. Great ones like this Philips put out light that looks very close to an incandescent, and as strong too. The weakness for this particular bulb, for some people, is its appearance when off... looks like a yellow thing from a spaceship. There are, however, some very traditional-looking LED bulbs that are just about as good and just about as cheap, worth choosing instead of appearance of the actual bulb matters to you.

Quote from onlycash View Post :
Both my local Lowes and HomeDepots have lots of LED bulbs in the $7 to $12 price range. I've purchased about a dozen LED bulbs so far and this is not a deal to me.
LEDs in the $5-$10 range today will *not* provide all that this Philips does. Sometimes, the trade-offs aren't a big deal and are worth the savings. If you don't care about the light rendering/hue and just want something strong that will last, there are some great options in that range.

As for the Philips themselves... I bought about 20 of these approx. 18 months ago by stacking an online coupon code with cash back and ordering from CT (where the subsidy was highest at the time). Net cost was about $16/each, including shipping. So compared to that, this is an okay deal. But compared to typical retail, a much better one. Also, keep in mind that this specific model is nearing the end of its production.

Quote from chukiechz View Post :
I just had 2 led bulbs stop working on me within a week of each other. They were utilitech bulbs from Lowes that I purchased a couple years ago. Had no receipt (thought they'd last longer), but lowes swapped them out for me, with hesitation
In a similar vein to what I said above, choosing a poor make/model LED can leave you high and dry. Ones like these Philips won't have that problem. The only knock on this model is the outward appearance and the fact they are at the end of their cycle and newer/better ones are around the corner from Philips.
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#26
I've been using about 10 Philips ones, all very good, not one failure. Recently, Costco had LED 12W for $5 AIR, but they sold out within a day. Then, they had another promotion, for LED spotlights, also for $5 AIR. Bought about 10 each. They beat my CFLs any day - dimable, no noise, instant on, no mercury, although they are not necessarily brighter than the CFLs of about equal wattage once those have warmed up.
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#27
They canceled my order. Apparently they do not have them even though their inventory say they have it in stock.
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#28
I suspect that in a few years, when these are less than $10 each, they'll all have built in WiFi, as well, so I'm sticking with CFLs for the time being.
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#29
good price if available for you.

staples has led bulbs cheaper and available online nationally. though not award-winning. see thread here.

Quote from jameshood View Post :
I've been using about 10 Philips ones, all very good, not one failure. Recently, Costco had LED 12W for $5 AIR, but they sold out within a day. Then, they had another promotion, for LED spotlights, also for $5 AIR. Bought about 10 each. They beat my CFLs any day - dimable, no noise, instant on, no mercury, although they are not necessarily brighter than the CFLs of about equal wattage once those have warmed up.
damn thats a great price
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#30
Why is this a hot deal? Costco has led bulbs at $5.99.
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