Taxes On The Rich Near 30-Year High: Tax Policy Center

Quote from vaultaddict : well. crisis averted then.

Well thank God for that. Now I won't have to increase your warning points!

Quote from jonsmith74 : As if the fed govt has not pumped tens of billions into both and look what we have to show for it...crumbling education system and crumbling infrastructure. Oh, wait, according to TRNT and others, we have to just spend more, more, more... Nice job completely and knowingly distorting what those you disagree with actually say...props, I guess.

So there is nothing that would cost and would improve education? I know, I know, gov is inherently evil.

When more money is available to the gov, it would help the poor and middle class, be it by paying down the debt, spending on education (say subsidized trade school tuition), or spending on infrastructure.

But the point to make here in response is that gov is evil.

Quote from jonsmith74 : As if the fed govt has not pumped tens of billions into both and look what we have to show for it...crumbling education system and crumbling infrastructure. Oh, wait, according to TRNT and others, we have to just spend more, more, more...

Yeah our crumbling infrastructure is a result of the "ton of money" we pumped into it. As if 10s of billions is a dent in a 3.6 trillion dollar problem.

Quote from jonsmith74 : As if the fed govt has not pumped tens of billions into both and look what we have to show for it...crumbling education system and crumbling infrastructure. Oh, wait, according to TRNT and others, we have to just spend more, more, more... Nice job completely and knowingly distorting what those you disagree with actually say...props, I guess.

Quote from jonsmith74 : I'd like your take on TRNT's post above where he gratuitously distorts what actual conservatives propose to do with spending programs...I keep getting "reported" for suggesting that posters are lying, despite the fact that they are. And TRNT in the example below is representative of what a lot of posters engage in, deliberately and knowingly misrepresenting the views of others. When properly called out for it, the person calling them out is dinged with a warning...

Here is a suggestion/request: please stop discussing posters and instead discuss their posts.

Thanks.

Quote from TRNT : So there is nothing that would cost and would improve education? I know, I know, gov is inherently evil. When more money is available to the gov, it would help the poor and middle class, be it by paying down the debt, spending on education (say subsidized trade school tuition), or spending on infrastructure. But the point to make here in response is that gov is evil.

Once again you choose to attribute bogus motives to those that you disagree with...simply because you disagree with them.

How many more tens of billions do the feds have to pump into education before you're satisfied that more money does not equal improved educational outcomes? Well?

Quote from TRNT : Here is a suggestion/request: please stop discussing posters and instead discuss their posts. Thanks.

Sorry, but when a poster deliberately distorts and misrepresents the opinions of others or fabricates compete strawmen...I will focus only on the poster. That is simply because their argument has no validity at all when they're misrepresenting the arguments of others or simply attributing bogus arguments to others.

Why do you prefer to argue with fake positions that no one actually takes? Why do you insist that I do?

Quote from Tony_Danza : Yeah our crumbling infrastructure is a result of the "ton of money" we pumped into it. As if 10s of billions is a dent in a 3.6 trillion dollar problem.

So how much will be enough? Tens of billions into education and it's getting worse.

So, what is the amount necessary to spend?

On infrastructure, what the fed govt has invested is far greater than 10s of billions. Look at how the government wastes time and resources of unwanted projects like the high speed rail to nowhere in Cali...

So what is the necessary amount?

Quote from jonsmith74 : So how much will be enough? Tens of billions into education and it's getting worse. On infrastructure, what the fed govt has invested is far greater than 10s of billions. Look at how the government wastes time and resources of unwanted projects like the high speed rail to nowhere in Cali...

I think you could put trillions of dollars into Detroit, and winning a Detroit vacation contest would still look like this:

First place prize: one week in Detroit
Second place prize: two weeks in Detroit

Quote from jonsmith74 : Once again you choose to attribute bogus motives to those that you disagree with...simply because you disagree with them.

Irony is not just a river in Egypt.

Quote from jonsmith74 : How many more tens of billions do the feds have to pump into education before you're satisfied that more money does not equal improved educational outcomes? Well?

I do not have a number.

Quote from TRNT : Irony is not just a river in Egypt. .

I can't tell if you're trying to make a joke or really don't understand the actual saying.

Quote from darkfrog : I can't tell if you're trying to make a joke or really don't understand the actual saying.

it's better that way